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Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 12:01:56
October 21 2009 11:49 GMT
#1
Now I'm ready for SC2 :D. My old computer was horrible couldn't even play 4v4 games without it lagging badly during mid/late game. What free games, e.g., maplestory, do you suggest I download now?

***
aka myheronoob
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6185 Posts
October 21 2009 11:53 GMT
#2
I suggest you to buy game and not download them, you can affort a new comp, you can put 50-60 into a game
n_n
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
October 21 2009 11:57 GMT
#3
yay!

and buy the games :<
POGGERS
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 12:02:30
October 21 2009 11:59 GMT
#4
Ah... buying games. I'll buy sc2 thats for sure. Well I'll edit the OP lol.
aw someone voted my blog 1 star u_u
aka myheronoob
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
October 21 2009 12:12 GMT
#5
i rated 5 to make up for it!
HEY MEYT
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 12:13 GMT
#6
Thanks Coltrane you're the best d(^__^)d
aka myheronoob
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
October 21 2009 12:16 GMT
#7
can you tell me the computer specs?
HEY MEYT
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 12:47:47
October 21 2009 12:37 GMT
#8
ok um
processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 (Y) 2.66 GHz (95W)
Memory (RAM): 6.00 GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System
Hard drive: 750 GB SATA 3G
Graphics: nVidia GeForce GT220 3D PCI-Express Graphics card, 1 GB memory
Power supply: 300W
aka myheronoob
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 12:49:38
October 21 2009 12:46 GMT
#9
processor: Intel Core2 quad cpu q8400 @ 2.66GHz 2.67 GHz
Memory (RAM): 6.00 GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System

So you've got ~2GB of RAM just sitting there being useless? :-(
this game is a fucking jokie
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 12:49 GMT
#10
I have no idea what that means
aka myheronoob
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 21 2009 12:50 GMT
#11
You got reamed on the video card too. The gt220 is pretty terrible.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
October 21 2009 12:52 GMT
#12
32 bit operating systems can only use up to 4GB of RAM. It's a mathmatical limit. Switching to 64 bit would allow you to fully utilise the 6GB's of RAM.
this game is a fucking jokie
dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 13:01:42
October 21 2009 12:59 GMT
#13
with PAE support on the motherboard and the right 32 bit OS you can use more than 4gb

but i would recommend a 64 bt OS
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
October 21 2009 13:10 GMT
#14
On October 21 2009 21:52 disco wrote:
32 bit operating systems can only use up to 4GB of RAM. It's a mathmatical limit. Switching to 64 bit would allow you to fully utilise the 6GB's of RAM.

You can only use 3gb iirc. So half his ram is useless.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 13:12 GMT
#15
originally it was 4gb but i got like 2gb for free
aka myheronoob
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 21 2009 13:16 GMT
#16
Ya'll leave the poor feller alone, lol.
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
October 21 2009 13:22 GMT
#17
On October 21 2009 22:10 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 21:52 disco wrote:
32 bit operating systems can only use up to 4GB of RAM. It's a mathmatical limit. Switching to 64 bit would allow you to fully utilise the 6GB's of RAM.

You can only use 3gb iirc. So half his ram is useless.


Yep, it's 3GB.
Soli Deo gloria.
Hacksaw11
Profile Joined July 2008
Australia359 Posts
October 21 2009 13:27 GMT
#18
Correction: 3.25GB.*
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araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
October 21 2009 13:32 GMT
#19
it's not 3 gb or 4 gb, a right OS with a right motherboard (read all current ones) can access up to 40ish GB of RAM. It's the single programs that cannot use more than 4 GB of RAM and even this is not true with NT and upper OSes, so no worries, just turn on the PAE bit from your BIOS, if it isn't already
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
October 21 2009 13:32 GMT
#20
On October 21 2009 22:22 Chromyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 22:10 decafchicken wrote:
On October 21 2009 21:52 disco wrote:
32 bit operating systems can only use up to 4GB of RAM. It's a mathmatical limit. Switching to 64 bit would allow you to fully utilise the 6GB's of RAM.

You can only use 3gb iirc. So half his ram is useless.


Yep, it's 3GB.


Wrong, it's 4GB. 32Bit can allocate 4.294.967.296 bytes.
That Windows only shows about 3ish to the user (or will only use so much) is because the rest is reserved for hardware devices.
this game is a fucking jokie
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 13:35 GMT
#21
On October 21 2009 22:32 araav wrote:
it's not 3 gb or 4 gb, a right OS with a right motherboard (read all current ones) can access up to 40ish GB of RAM. It's the single programs that cannot use more than 4 GB of RAM and even this is not true with NT and upper OSes, so no worries, just turn on the PAE bit from your BIOS, if it isn't already

whats PAE and how do i turn it on?
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 21 2009 13:44 GMT
#22
Physical Address Extension, something of a ghetto hack for 32-bit systems (but very likely not yours). I can't imagine using a 32-bit system to address more than 2^32 memory is as fast as using a 64-bit system for that purpose. Check the table.

Granted, 3 GB main memory is plenty for most games and applications.
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
October 21 2009 14:00 GMT
#23
On October 21 2009 22:32 disco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 22:22 Chromyne wrote:
On October 21 2009 22:10 decafchicken wrote:
On October 21 2009 21:52 disco wrote:
32 bit operating systems can only use up to 4GB of RAM. It's a mathmatical limit. Switching to 64 bit would allow you to fully utilise the 6GB's of RAM.

You can only use 3gb iirc. So half his ram is useless.


Yep, it's 3GB.


Wrong, it's 4GB. 32Bit can allocate 4.294.967.296 bytes.
That Windows only shows about 3ish to the user (or will only use so much) is because the rest is reserved for hardware devices.


I'm tempted to believe you since my knowledge of computers isn't the greatest, but isn't it that the OS can only address up to 3.12 (or was it 3.25?)GB RAM and the rest are used for background hardware processes?

Then sure you could say it's 4GB, but not without a caveat.
Soli Deo gloria.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
October 21 2009 14:09 GMT
#24
DL civ2. I got my new comp last night and celebrated with 8 hrs of civ while Empire:TW sat sadly in the corner.

Oh, buy that btw
My. Copy. Is. Here.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
October 21 2009 14:09 GMT
#25
Hmmm... that system really works OK with a 300W PS? Props to intel I guess.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
October 21 2009 14:49 GMT
#26
You poor guy lol
Who sold you this stuff?
Oh no
myfriendPlank
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States550 Posts
October 21 2009 14:54 GMT
#27
Get Windows 7 64-bit when it comes out tomorrow. Also get a new damn power supply, 300W? That's a piece of crap.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 14:56:08
October 21 2009 14:54 GMT
#28
Wow man what a shitty setup. Why does no one ever listen when people say they should build their own? BTW, gt220 = 9600gt. What a waste of money.
U Gotta Skate.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 21 2009 15:17 GMT
#29
On October 21 2009 23:54 ghermination wrote:
Wow man what a shitty setup. Why does no one ever listen when people say they should build their own? BTW, gt220 = 9600gt. What a waste of money.

Wrong. Gt220 is worse than a 9600gt.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
October 21 2009 15:18 GMT
#30
On October 21 2009 21:37 MyHeroNoob wrote:
ok um
processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 (Y) 2.66 GHz (95W)
Memory (RAM): 6.00 GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System
Hard drive: 750 GB SATA 3G
Graphics: nVidia GeForce GT220 3D PCI-Express Graphics card, 1 GB memory
Power supply: 300W

aaand how much did you pay?
POGGERS
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 15:19 GMT
#31
sorry guys I know close to nothing about computers ;; but at least it can run sc2 smoothly right? :D
aka myheronoob
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 15:19 GMT
#32
uh dont flame me but 1.6k
aka myheronoob
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 15:20:07
October 21 2009 15:19 GMT
#33
On October 22 2009 00:19 MyHeroNoob wrote:
sorry guys I know close to nothing about computers ;; but at least it can run sc2 smoothly right? :D


Video card might have trouble depending how high you run the resolution.

uh dont flame me but 1.6k

I hope that's not in american dollars, because that system doesn't cost 1/2 that here in US.
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 15:22 GMT
#34
Its in SGD
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Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 15:24 GMT
#35
The CPU is like 1200~1300. The monitor costs like 200~300
aka myheronoob
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 15:28:49
October 21 2009 15:24 GMT
#36
Ummm, that's still a lot of money

EDIT: I don't know about the availability of hardware in Singapore, or how you got it, so I can't say much. I wouldn't sweat it too much. It sucks regretting a purchase or feeling bad about it, just enjoy it; it's not a bad system.

And you also got a monitor? Awesome.
Soli Deo gloria.
myfriendPlank
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States550 Posts
October 21 2009 15:24 GMT
#37
Well, it says he lives in "Singapore."
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 15:26:30
October 21 2009 15:25 GMT
#38
Well if its SGD, then it's not that bad, but still could have been better. Videocard is kinda weak for that money tho.

The CPU is like 1200~1300. The monitor costs like 200~300

That processor does not cost that much. Maybe you have it the other way around? Looks like monitor would be 1200 and cpu ~ 300 SGD
leMaj24
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States262 Posts
October 21 2009 15:25 GMT
#39
the computer is not that bad, with some upgrades you can have a pretty nice computer.
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
October 21 2009 15:28 GMT
#40
I'm noob at computers T_T
aka myheronoob
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 15:29:41
October 21 2009 15:28 GMT
#41
It's not bad for what you paid for it.
And yes, SC2 will run fine.
this game is a fucking jokie
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
October 21 2009 15:31 GMT
#42
On October 22 2009 00:25 Sadistx wrote:
Well if its SGD, then it's not that bad, but still could have been better. Videocard is kinda weak for that money tho.

Show nested quote +
The CPU is like 1200~1300. The monitor costs like 200~300

That processor does not cost that much. Maybe you have it the other way around? Looks like monitor would be 1200 and cpu ~ 300 SGD


Must be a really sweet monitor!

MyHeroNoob, don't feel bad about it (sorry if I made you feel that way). Like leMaj24 said, you can always upgrade parts in the future. Have fun with it. Getting a new computer is great!
Soli Deo gloria.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 15:34:11
October 21 2009 15:33 GMT
#43
with the current pricing of hardware you could have gotten much better imo

i paid 1.6k last year for this spec: (which right now should be like 1.2k)

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GHz (3.6GHz)
DFI LANParty DK P35
4x DDR2 1GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Vista 64-bit
700GB HD

But as others said, you can always upgrade, as long as your chassis can handle it
POGGERS
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
October 21 2009 15:34 GMT
#44
Its ok for SC2, but I would really upgrade the PS. Its a dumb reason to start losing various components. I did this with a 300W source and lost a video card and a hard disk... Changed them, upped to a 450W and had no further issues. Of course I had an AMD processor and totally different set-up so take everything with a grain of salt :-)
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disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 15:35:36
October 21 2009 15:34 GMT
#45
On October 22 2009 00:25 Sadistx wrote:
Well if its SGD, then it's not that bad, but still could have been better. Videocard is kinda weak for that money tho.

Show nested quote +
The CPU is like 1200~1300. The monitor costs like 200~300

That processor does not cost that much. Maybe you have it the other way around? Looks like monitor would be 1200 and cpu ~ 300 SGD

By CPU he probably means his computer. ComPUter, I guess the mistake is understandable.
this game is a fucking jokie
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 21 2009 15:37 GMT
#46
On October 22 2009 00:34 disco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 00:25 Sadistx wrote:
Well if its SGD, then it's not that bad, but still could have been better. Videocard is kinda weak for that money tho.

The CPU is like 1200~1300. The monitor costs like 200~300

That processor does not cost that much. Maybe you have it the other way around? Looks like monitor would be 1200 and cpu ~ 300 SGD

By CPU he probably means his computer. ComPUter, I guess the mistake is understandable.


Oh lol, nvm then. I guess that makes it a slightly better deal then :p
Dreadsithar
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada49 Posts
October 21 2009 15:41 GMT
#47
i would upgrade ur graphics card asap. The gt 220 is garbage man so many problems with it
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pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
October 21 2009 15:47 GMT
#48
On October 22 2009 00:33 konadora wrote:
4x DDR2 1GB RAM

just wondering, is there any reason why you got 4x1gb instead of 2x2gb?
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 15:54:25
October 21 2009 15:50 GMT
#49
You should be fine for sc2. I think upgrading to a 64 bit OS to get the full capabilities out of that 6GB of RAM would be a good idea though. Plus 64 bit is the future anyway.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
October 21 2009 15:53 GMT
#50
On October 22 2009 00:47 pangshai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 00:33 konadora wrote:
4x DDR2 1GB RAM

just wondering, is there any reason why you got 4x1gb instead of 2x2gb?

i think it was because it was cheaper or something lol
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 16:18:03
October 21 2009 16:10 GMT
#51
How's hardware prices at Singapore? In terms of the US (All hail Newegg) that was a frightening price to pay. Upgrading after getting this is somewhat pointless, given how most commercially sold comps' case tend to be bad, and that limits future upgrades. If this can't be returned, then disassembling it and selling the parts could work (or if there are suckers out there, sell the whole thing).

This is not to say that the comp is crap, replace the GPU, switch to a 64bit OS and possible OC the CPU a bit and it can be good. Just that to invest additional capital into a pre-configured machine when you aren't doing it for specific reasons feels a bit like a waste and negates the point of such machines.

4x1gb being cheaper than 2x2? 0.o Must've been some weird promotion lol
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5541 Posts
October 21 2009 16:18 GMT
#52
Not sure what games you've played but heres a list of pc games to try:

Half life 2 + episodes
CoD 4
Fallout 3
Oblivion
Dead space
Portal

Free games:
Trackmania and Combat Arms
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
October 21 2009 16:19 GMT
#53
On October 22 2009 00:33 konadora wrote:
with the current pricing of hardware you could have gotten much better imo

i paid 1.6k last year for this spec: (which right now should be like 1.2k)

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0 GHz (3.6GHz)
DFI LANParty DK P35
4x DDR2 1GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Vista 64-bit
700GB HD

But as others said, you can always upgrade, as long as your chassis can handle it


ya heronoob, you should follow this basic setup and upgrade your shit. given that your chassis is fine, and just look for youtube videos on how to manually switch out yo shit.

on a side note, LOLOLOL gt220
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JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
October 21 2009 16:34 GMT
#54
To derail the thread a bit, sorry:

I'm getting a new computer on friday with a 9500GT. think it will be enough to run sc2? Im not afraid that the rest of the computer can't run it (core i5, 4 gb ram, win7 64 bit, etc), just a bit nervous with the graphics card as my uncle who is making the computer said he'd guess the 9500GT would run sc2 on low graphics.

On thread again: If you're looking for a free MMORPG, maplestory probably is the way to go, another fun online game is Trackmania, if you haven't tried it already, you should go do so now. Its awesome.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 17:00:36
October 21 2009 16:50 GMT
#55
Use the Post your Rig thread on SC2 forums, a lot of people asking about graphics solutions there, but if the talks of the Blizzcon builds using 8800 is true, then the 9500 will probably be on the lower ends for graphics indeed.

...at that, what is your i5 build doing with a 9500, if your budget is that low, change to some lower grade processor and get a better card.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 21 2009 17:11 GMT
#56
On October 21 2009 22:44 Myrmidon wrote:
Physical Address Extension, something of a ghetto hack for 32-bit systems (but very likely not yours). I can't imagine using a 32-bit system to address more than 2^32 memory is as fast as using a 64-bit system for that purpose. Check the table.

Granted, 3 GB main memory is plenty for most games and applications.


Iirc PAE does not work with windows due to driver fail. But like you said, just get a 64 bit system. The 32 bit monsters are dying at 03:14:08 UTC on 19 January 2038 anyways ^o^
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