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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 14 2009 15:37 GMT
#21
Very nice write up, although I disagree with you about the pro league map tests.
There definitely were some really really bad ones, but also some really really good ones, the games on roadrunner today were also good. Boxer's match vs yarnc for example.
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Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
September 14 2009 15:52 GMT
#22
On September 14 2009 13:30 Arrian wrote:
Boxer
He's playing in the map test. He's 29 years old. He hasn't won a game that mattered since the Spring preliminaries. And still, he's playing in the All-Stars match almost assuredly. As far as we know, the last person to go to an All Star game for doing so little was Barry Bonds. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the guy. If you're a StarCraft fan, you're a Boxer fan, and nothing proves that more than what we're seeing here. Boxer gets credit for being Boxer, and it doesn't get much sweeter than that.


Please stop equating being a StarCraft fan to being a Boxer fan. It is quite unnerving, considering that it implies that anyone who dislikes Boxer and/or the hype that surrounds him is not a StarCraft fan.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
September 14 2009 22:20 GMT
#23
On September 14 2009 13:48 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Are you sure TL.net is the world's largest SC site? Isn't some of the Korean sites bigger? I mean. A less cool guy like me just doesn't know.

Good post though, I like informative posts like this that kind of re-cap events going on around the SC scene.

We are larger than all Korean sites too. Some Korean companies did a comparison during some ad negotiation stuff.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
September 14 2009 23:07 GMT
#24
Wow. Well now I know. And knowing is half the battle. Good work TL!
So wait? I'm bad? =(
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
September 14 2009 23:12 GMT
#25
Imagine if we had korean fangirls on the site on top of that...:o
leomon
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada169 Posts
September 15 2009 01:04 GMT
#26
I didn't know TL.net was the world's largest SC site. Well, now I know, so CONGRATS TL!

Radians
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
September 15 2009 01:07 GMT
#27
On September 15 2009 00:52 Tom Phoenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 13:30 Arrian wrote:
Boxer
He's playing in the map test. He's 29 years old. He hasn't won a game that mattered since the Spring preliminaries. And still, he's playing in the All-Stars match almost assuredly. As far as we know, the last person to go to an All Star game for doing so little was Barry Bonds. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the guy. If you're a StarCraft fan, you're a Boxer fan, and nothing proves that more than what we're seeing here. Boxer gets credit for being Boxer, and it doesn't get much sweeter than that.


Please stop equating being a StarCraft fan to being a Boxer fan. It is quite unnerving, considering that it implies that anyone who dislikes Boxer and/or the hype that surrounds him is not a StarCraft fan.

However, you have to admit that the vast majority of Starcraft fans do like Boxer. He is, without a doubt, the most popular progamer in Starcraft. Heck, I even know several people that know who Boxer is, yet do not follow progaming in any way.

Also, "If you're a StarCraft fan, you're probably a Boxer fan" doesn't sound quite as good.
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Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
September 15 2009 03:22 GMT
#28
On September 15 2009 10:07 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2009 00:52 Tom Phoenix wrote:
On September 14 2009 13:30 Arrian wrote:
Boxer
He's playing in the map test. He's 29 years old. He hasn't won a game that mattered since the Spring preliminaries. And still, he's playing in the All-Stars match almost assuredly. As far as we know, the last person to go to an All Star game for doing so little was Barry Bonds. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the guy. If you're a StarCraft fan, you're a Boxer fan, and nothing proves that more than what we're seeing here. Boxer gets credit for being Boxer, and it doesn't get much sweeter than that.


Please stop equating being a StarCraft fan to being a Boxer fan. It is quite unnerving, considering that it implies that anyone who dislikes Boxer and/or the hype that surrounds him is not a StarCraft fan.

However, you have to admit that the vast majority of Starcraft fans do like Boxer. He is, without a doubt, the most popular progamer in Starcraft. Heck, I even know several people that know who Boxer is, yet do not follow progaming in any way.

Also, "If you're a StarCraft fan, you're probably a Boxer fan" doesn't sound quite as good.


Boxer may be the most popular progamer in StarCraft, but that does not mean that liking him and/or his gameplay is a prerequisite to being a fan of professional StarCraft. I am sorry if I am arguing semantics here, but people have made such statements before and it comes off at least a bit insulting (since it implies that you are a lesser SC fan for not liking Boxer).

I am sorry if my replies seem overly negative, Arrian. I like most of the thoughts you presented in this thread and wholeheartedly agree with them. It is just that that particular part struck me the most.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 15 2009 03:28 GMT
#29
TL is the largest sc site ever! And the best part of it is that it's totally awesome and is in ENGLISH.

Map tests are kinda boring, but it's at least something to watch.
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
September 15 2009 08:25 GMT
#30
Great write-up Arrian! Pulls me through the sobering quietness (: Good thing this got highlighted on the front page.
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