EPTAnyway, I believe in nurture over nature. Yes something you cant change, but those things are only bot 1% of your personality. This kind of view may also stem from my belief that humans are all one race, and hence the word racism in my opinion should mean someone who thinks their ethnicity is a race. Also, new borns are like empty boxes, and its up to the parents/caregivers for what to put in it (such as your morals, your initial beliefs, your manners, etc.) If I had bad parents, then I woul dhave probably gotten STD's by the age of 15.
[Discussion] The Roots of Morality - Page 2
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Sharp-eYe
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Anyway, I believe in nurture over nature. Yes something you cant change, but those things are only bot 1% of your personality. This kind of view may also stem from my belief that humans are all one race, and hence the word racism in my opinion should mean someone who thinks their ethnicity is a race. Also, new borns are like empty boxes, and its up to the parents/caregivers for what to put in it (such as your morals, your initial beliefs, your manners, etc.) If I had bad parents, then I woul dhave probably gotten STD's by the age of 15. | ||
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Magic84
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On September 04 2009 11:15 Sharp-eYe wrote: These medical terms are getting more complex every single day >.> Anyway, I believe in nurture over nature. Yes something you cant change, but those things are only bot 1% of your personality. This kind of view may also stem from my belief that humans are all one race, and hence the word racism in my opinion should mean someone who thinks their ethnicity is a race. Also, new borns are like empty boxes, and its up to the parents/caregivers for what to put in it (such as your morals, your initial beliefs, your manners, etc.) If I had bad parents, then I woul dhave probably gotten STD's by the age of 15. Every "empty box" has unique set of genes and i believe it's far from just 1% of personality and behavior, unless it's compared to an identical twin. As for belief of total equality, it's not correct, because people did not evolve at identical pace and in identical direction all around the world, scientifically proven. But i won't go deep into that, it's taboo talk in your culture.  | ||
Jibba
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On September 04 2009 11:06 Magic84 wrote: Actually i think intelligent people tend to be less influenced by society and have more freedom and choice in their morals. The first problem in this is that you haven't defined intelligent. Physicists? Economists? Teachers? Second, I don't know that being intelligent (whichever definition you choose) translates to having more freedom or choice, or that even having a better understanding enables you to act differently in moral situations. And again, back to the original post, what is moral? | ||
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zulu_nation8
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immoral = useless term amoral = having little or no values. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 04 2009 12:16 zulu_nation8 wrote: Ok, so possessing your own values. I suppose that would be more introspective (not intelligent) people, but can you actually choose them? I think they continue to be given by societal influences. And why is having your own better than sharing someone else's?moral = possessing values immoral = useless term amoral = having little or no values. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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Jibba
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On September 04 2009 12:31 zulu_nation8 wrote: it's ridiculous to think you can transcend the social reality which influences and makes up what you are just because you think harder than the rest or some bs. Some philosophers realize this, some don't. Yeah, I'm in complete agreement. | ||
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
On September 04 2009 13:40 zulu_nation8 wrote: Although you can debate if people like De Sade, Artaud, etc who devoted their lives to transcending themselves have actually done anything. And the value of their work, etc. Still for practical purposes, if your friend thinks his values are better than someone elses because he saw fight club you should hit him. You can absolutely have enough power to start adjusting your own values and beliefs more efficiently than society does it to you if you have thinking and analytical mind and you don't need to watch fight club, first of all because it a movie=lie and opinion, second of all it's again a social influence. At least minorly, just to realize what values fit better to your character and mind, to human nature and what are less necessary/made-up/detrimental to your self-satisfaction, just so you lie to yourself less, it can be important, morals aren't ultimately set in stone once you accepted them. I don't say that you can fully get away from what you have been taught, programmed in childhood though or ultimately from every other influence. | ||
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