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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
September 01 2009 02:08 GMT
#1
Well my thoughts on this season :

I started out with the mentality "im going to play alot" and i did. Just not many ranked games. I think i might have played like 800 games this season on various accounts and like 200+ ranked games on other names aswell. Also in the midst of playing P/T( all matchups) and trying to decide on what i want to play as.

Stats before i quit playing with terran were like 25-25 (2800~)
and protoss i was something around 19-8 with 3004(eZ) Im probably going to actually try mass gaming next season but im really not sure if it will get done. My goal is atleast 200 ranked games on a single account..aswell as staying stable C- and not just getting it then playing something else cause i dont want to lose it. I also want to try to play atleast 2 progamers. I only played 1 last season (T)ClouD so i definantly want to play alot more koreans also..

Though i have some questions about matchups hopefully someone better than me can answer..

TvZ: None - i (could when i was playing) beat C++ zergs fairly regularly no real questions here i knew what to do and most of the time i had the macro/micro to back it up aswell..

TvT: yeah i played like 8 games i won half. no questions.

TvP: how are you suposed to mine up before you push since it seems to me like dragoons can just push out and gay the fuck out of you and then your tanks die because vultures suck dick..

PvP : i played like 25 games and lost like 6 it was easy

PvT : is it worth it to get a speed shuttle(or two) when you dont go reavers? i usually do this just because i can drop templar faster and storm big ass globs of tanks..but i dont know if its really worth it. Also when to put down a second stargate for arbiters? and when to get 2nd gas?

PvZ : Okay this is absolute bullshit, how am i suposed to break out of huge hydralurker contains when they are being faggots with scourge and they have like 40 hydras and i have 12 zealots and 2 storms? bullshit much. Ho ware you suposed to beat ultralisks? especially since all (non korean) zergs on iccup just get like 12 lurkers then save up 4000 gas for maxing on ultras and 1 a 2 a 3a 4a 5a because they ahve horrible macro.

Overall after these questions and mostly just bitching on imbalance i hope to see some of you on playing next season on an account as soon as i can find a random badass name to use!

*
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
September 01 2009 02:17 GMT
#2
On September 01 2009 11:08 arb wrote:
PvZ : Okay this is absolute bullshit, how am i suposed to break out of huge hydralurker contains when they are being faggots with scourge and they have like 40 hydras and i have 12 zealots and 2 storms? bullshit much. Ho ware you suposed to beat ultralisks? especially since all (non korean) zergs on iccup just get like 12 lurkers then save up 4000 gas for maxing on ultras and 1 a 2 a 3a 4a 5a because they ahve horrible macro.

Play maps other than destination?
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
September 01 2009 02:20 GMT
#3
PvZ do goon/templar =]
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
September 01 2009 02:21 GMT
#4
Since when can you beat C+ zergs arb?
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
September 01 2009 02:28 GMT
#5
I just don't understand why you'd want to make another account, or reset your stats because, unless i missed something, your stats are just here to make you look "good" ? So i'm not even sure if you really played over 800 games.
I'd be more impressed if you showed stats like 200-300 even if you lost a lot of them it clearly shows that you played a lot and you got a lot of experience.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 01 2009 02:28 GMT
#6
On September 01 2009 11:21 sixghost wrote:
Since when can you beat C+ zergs arb?

Yeah, didn't I watch you get owned by reso or some other C- rank Zerg on Tau Cross?

If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
September 01 2009 02:35 GMT
#7
On September 01 2009 11:28 RaiZ wrote:
I just don't understand why you'd want to make another account, or reset your stats because, unless i missed something, your stats are just here to make you look "good" ? So i'm not even sure if you really played over 800 games.
I'd be more impressed if you showed stats like 200-300 even if you lost a lot of them it clearly shows that you played a lot and you got a lot of experience.

well most of them are in auto replay and just friendly games..id say like 50-60 of them are where faggots leave before 2 minutes though -.-..

and maybe i exaggerated on c+ zergs but i didnt beat 1 guy who got B- though so im pretty happy about that
(forIre) btw i have rep.

and no grobby that was cube that nero stomped on tau cross =[(or maybe dante did it?)
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
September 01 2009 02:42 GMT
#8
On September 01 2009 11:20 Liquid`NonY wrote:
PvZ do goon/templar =]

Do you have a replay maybe or a build order for it? would you make many zealots or just go straight into mass dragoons and templar? OR are you talking of your TSL build which raped alot of ppl?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
September 01 2009 02:42 GMT
#9
On September 01 2009 11:08 arb wrote:


PvZ : Okay this is absolute bullshit, how am i suposed to break out of huge hydralurker contains when they are being faggots with scourge and they have like 40 hydras and i have 12 zealots and 2 storms? bullshit much. Ho ware you suposed to beat ultralisks? especially since all (non korean) zergs on iccup just get like 12 lurkers then save up 4000 gas for maxing on ultras and 1 a 2 a 3a 4a 5a because they ahve horrible macro.


Ultras need 4 gas to be stable basically.

Don't let the zerg get that point.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
September 01 2009 02:53 GMT
#10
THANKS FOR REMINDING ME TO MAKE MY OWN GOAL THREAD :D:D
<3

we should mass TvT's sometimes if its possible :\
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16968 Posts
September 01 2009 02:58 GMT
#11
On September 01 2009 11:42 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2009 11:20 Liquid`NonY wrote:
PvZ do goon/templar =]

Do you have a replay maybe or a build order for it? would you make many zealots or just go straight into mass dragoons and templar? OR are you talking of your TSL build which raped alot of ppl?


Yeah try watching any PvZ rep from his reppack XD
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Crisis)man
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia80 Posts
September 01 2009 03:01 GMT
#12
On September 01 2009 11:20 Liquid`NonY wrote:
PvZ do goon/templar =]



This is true!! U wouldn't think... but mass goons/temp with a few zealots rapes ultra... Nony out of no where!! nice to see u
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
September 01 2009 03:40 GMT
#13
On September 01 2009 11:58 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2009 11:42 arb wrote:
On September 01 2009 11:20 Liquid`NonY wrote:
PvZ do goon/templar =]

Do you have a replay maybe or a build order for it? would you make many zealots or just go straight into mass dragoons and templar? OR are you talking of your TSL build which raped alot of ppl?


Yeah try watching any PvZ rep from his reppack XD

You'll have to depatch down to 1.15.3 or whatever was being used during TSL.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
September 01 2009 03:44 GMT
#14
I always wanted to do goon/templar in PvZ but feel I lack understanding.

Nony I would really appreciate any replays with modern goon/templar build orders to copy.

Preferably something some simple showing a build when the protoss isn't harassed... like the one you posted vs the comp demonstrating fastest possible corsair.
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inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
September 01 2009 04:08 GMT
#15
On September 01 2009 11:20 Liquid`NonY wrote:
PvZ do goon/templar =]


so true..i have been using this on iccup for seasons now and it works so well since its uncommon. it literally counters anything the zerg can throw at you as long as you place your storms well.
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
September 01 2009 04:23 GMT
#16
On September 01 2009 11:20 Liquid`NonY wrote:
PvZ do goon/templar =]


n_n

Also, archons rape ultras.
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CosmicAC
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States238 Posts
September 01 2009 04:42 GMT
#17
Wait...how are you supposed to get progamers to play you?

It would be awesome if i played one...
To follow the path: look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
September 01 2009 10:55 GMT
#18
play alot of koreans early season and get lucky
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