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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
August 30 2009 22:26 GMT
#1021
On August 31 2009 01:16 omninmo wrote:
i would love it if TLPD showed a list of all teams X player was ever on and during which seasons/years.


Oh my lord would that ever be a HUGE task.
Hi.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 31 2009 05:23 GMT
#1022
Uh, Hyuk is on an eight game winning streak and not 4...unless there are minor league games...XD
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 31 2009 05:29 GMT
#1023
On August 31 2009 00:15 p4NDemik wrote:
STX Masters games don't count towards streaks/ELO.

Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
August 31 2009 17:50 GMT
#1024
On December 05 2007 22:51 zatic wrote:
Any plans to expose a TLPD API via webservices? This would really help 3rd party sites.
You could prevent abuse with a system of "developer keys" that client applications have to send to access the API. It will also help to advertise TLPD.

Yes, dear Sir, this is actually possible now! It only took 20 months and one staff hiring to make this happen. Thanks for suggesting such an amazing feature!

http://www.teamliquid.net/api
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
August 31 2009 18:08 GMT
#1025
zatic has leveled up!
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-04 17:56:46
September 04 2009 17:54 GMT
#1026
On August 31 2009 00:15 p4NDemik wrote:
STX Masters games don't count towards streaks/ELO.


Why not? It gives KeSPA points, why not ELO/streaks?

Why is WCG Korea 09 counted if its not KeSPA regulated tournament?
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
September 04 2009 19:59 GMT
#1027
I didn't know it actually gives KeSPA points, but the fact that KeSPA gives points for a tournament's games is irrelevant - the nature/quality of the games is what really should matter when counting something towards ELO/streaks.

The way I look at it, it's pretty obvious when watching the Masters games that the players/coaches aren't taking it that seriously. You see the 2nd line players playing over the regulars, and the games are obviously second rate compared to Proleague/Starleagues/GOM/WCG.

Anyways, I'm not really the one that decided that STX Masters shouldn't count, I was just following the precedent of previous seasons. If you want to know why that decision was made in the first place I'd ask a staff member who's been here longer than me.
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-04 20:20:47
September 04 2009 20:20 GMT
#1028
Well it just sounds weird. I mean WCG korea only top 24 or so could participate but STX Masters all teams (players mainly) could participate (ACE not there).

WCG korea final games (bisu vs stork) should not be counted as those games don't really count (whoever wins doesn't matter) so quality goes down.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
September 04 2009 23:16 GMT
#1029
Could remove Jaedong's ugly loss vs GGPlay from last OSL then? And July vs Yarnc? Meh, there's not clear distinction, but the majority accept the choices.
Jaedong
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 05 2009 10:20 GMT
#1030
On September 05 2009 08:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Could remove Jaedong's ugly loss vs GGPlay from last OSL then? And July vs Yarnc? Meh, there's not clear distinction, but the majority accept the choices.


Those gives KeSPA points at least

But I don't mind what thing isn't included to ELO calculation. TLPD should inform what leagues don't mean anything for players (elo and so on). Like now OTE, UPC and PMT should not count at all (most likely it don't).
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27159 Posts
September 05 2009 12:10 GMT
#1031
On September 01 2009 02:50 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2007 22:51 zatic wrote:
Any plans to expose a TLPD API via webservices? This would really help 3rd party sites.
You could prevent abuse with a system of "developer keys" that client applications have to send to access the API. It will also help to advertise TLPD.

Yes, dear Sir, this is actually possible now! It only took 20 months and one staff hiring to make this happen. Thanks for suggesting such an amazing feature!

http://www.teamliquid.net/api


That zatic guy is fucking AWESOME.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 18:36:27
September 05 2009 18:36 GMT
#1032
On September 05 2009 19:20 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2009 08:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Could remove Jaedong's ugly loss vs GGPlay from last OSL then? And July vs Yarnc? Meh, there's not clear distinction, but the majority accept the choices.

Those gives KeSPA points at least

But I don't mind what thing isn't included to ELO calculation. TLPD should inform what leagues don't mean anything for players (elo and so on). Like now OTE, UPC and PMT should not count at all (most likely it don't).

A pretty safe assumption right now for recent games is that if a game was not part of the OSL/MSL/MST/GOM/PL/WCG then it most likely isn't included in ELO (the leagues you mention are not). I do agree that we need something that lets people browsing TLPD know what does and what doesn't count towards ELO. It's on the list of things to work on in TLPD.
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
September 08 2009 08:08 GMT
#1033
Why don't the different versions of Blue Storm have different TLPD pages? The change is minor but it has a huge effect on defending your nat from mutas in TvZ.
brood war for life, brood war forever
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 08 2009 14:36 GMT
#1034
On September 08 2009 17:08 Crunchums wrote:
Why don't the different versions of Blue Storm have different TLPD pages? The change is minor but it has a huge effect on defending your nat from mutas in TvZ.

and a huge change in pvz stats
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
September 11 2009 02:35 GMT
#1035
Is there a way to not see the offline preliminary stats? Apologies if this was addressed already.
Sullifam
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
September 11 2009 02:44 GMT
#1036
On September 11 2009 11:35 ghostWriter wrote:
Is there a way to not see the offline preliminary stats? Apologies if this was addressed already.
On August 19 2009 02:57 zatic wrote:
Yeah we were actually discussing this recently, how to make none Kespa events visually different on TLPD. Not definite on how it's going to be done but it's a good idea.

TLPD has doubled in the # of games in the last 3 months, and most of those games are prelims/some other form of offline tourney that doesn't count towards ELO, so it's become obvious that some things are going to need to change so that there is an easy way to see which games "count" and which do not. There's other stuff that the coders are busy on right now so I'm not sure when TLPD will be renovated in this respect, but it's definitely on the list of things that need to be done.
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aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
September 13 2009 08:42 GMT
#1037
On September 01 2009 02:50 zatic wrote:
Yes, dear Sir, this is actually possible now! It only took 20 months and one staff hiring to make this happen. Thanks for suggesting such an amazing feature!

http://www.teamliquid.net/api


I had been thinking of making an IRC bot that would access TLPD/etc last month but this made it a hell of a lot easier. If you want to see a working example of what an API can let you do just go to #teamliquid and type !help (and thank zatic for this while you're at it..)
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
September 13 2009 18:29 GMT
#1038
wowowow bot is so good!~
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
September 13 2009 22:46 GMT
#1039
gosh darn it that bot is slick!

I guess this should go to a bot suggestion thread but there's none. It ties in here: If the user database were api accessible, then the bot could perform user checks in channel and enforce a tie between the chat users and TL member status.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
September 14 2009 04:51 GMT
#1040
Not sure if this is intentional or not, but the TLPD doesn't really seem to be counting the new minor league and other games on the overall records. I came across this while looking at (P)SoO's page and he's only 0-3 yet he has played many, many more games.
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