in some places (such as ELO ranking list) OZ players' team is listed as "Hwaesung" instead of "Hwaseung"

also, it TLPD-izes where it shouldn't and doesn't where it should (example above)

PoP

France15446 Posts

February 26 2009 22:34 GMT

#785

On February 27 2009 07:05 ZBiR wrote:
in some places (such as ELO ranking list) OZ players' team is listed as "Hwaesung" instead of "Hwaseung"

also, it TLPD-izes where it shouldn't and doesn't where it should (example above)

Fixed.

I'll see about the missing games/team lineups this weekend. Thanks guys.

Fzero

United States1503 Posts

February 28 2009 14:59 GMT

#786

Hey PoP, I was wondering if it was possible to do a combined PL/WL "Game Stats" page somewhere? I figured it would be far easier for you to combine cells than for me to manually add them together.

Carnac

Germany / USA16648 Posts

February 28 2009 16:52 GMT

#787

I'm not even sure why they're separated..., Bob & me mentioned it in MiR but no one else seemed to care :/

Pensive Goat

Canada1 Post

February 28 2009 19:59 GMT

#788

Recently I've been thinking about making a site for indexing Starcraft VODs. When I started watching these, it was kind of annoying to have to search youtube or crawl through forum posts to watch VODs for specific players or leagues.

Then I discovered the TLPD, and it looks like it does 90% of what I would want my site to do. However, it looks like the TLPD only links to VODs posted on nevake's youtube account. Though I sometimes watch these, I usually prefer to wait a few days to watch the games with english commentaries such as those posted on the VioleTAK youtube account. Also I really enjoy the VODs on gomtv.net because they are have english commentary by tasteless.

Is there any interest in adding links to english commentaries for games to the TLPD?

CDRdude

United States5625 Posts

March 01 2009 00:50 GMT

#789

Some joker renamed Bisu in TLPD to BONJWA. I'm amused, but could you add 'Bisu' under his nicknames, so I can use Bisu to TLPD-ize?
EDIT: ROFL, it's misspelled " (P)

BONWJA" I'm pretty sure this is Manifesto's work, lol
Edit 2: Changed back. Bisu will always be the one true bonwja to me. Maybe the bonjwa someday as well.

p4NDemik

United States13896 Posts

March 03 2009 16:11 GMT

#790

OSL Tiebreaker results from Feb 27th are missing from the database.

AttackZerg

United States7572 Posts

March 04 2009 00:23 GMT

#791

Hey I just wanted to come and leave a big

THANK YOU!

TLPD works great. I always find what I want. I've spent hours browsing it and finding vods I haven't seen or haven't seen in years.

It is the pimp I LOVE IT!

Thanks again!

Tom Phoenix

1114 Posts

March 04 2009 04:13 GMT

#792

This video says that (P)

GARIMTO played a PvP game on Plains to Hill. Yet, if you check the PvP games list of that map, no such match is mentioned.

Emlary

China3334 Posts

March 04 2009 04:51 GMT

#793

On March 04 2009 01:11 p4NDemik wrote:
OSL Tiebreaker results from Feb 27th are missing from the database.

Added. I will try to add games as soon as the results come out from now on.

PoP

France15446 Posts

March 04 2009 06:41 GMT

#794

On March 04 2009 13:13 Tom Phoenix wrote:
This video says that (P)

GARIMTO played a PvP game on Plains to Hill. Yet, if you check the PvP games list of that map, no such match is mentioned.

Probably either a replay or an unofficial televised game.

SilverskY

Korea (South)3086 Posts

March 04 2009 09:40 GMT

#795

May I suggest that we get new pics of BeSt and Kal for the TLPD? They look a bit outdated, and bit ugly lol.

gondolin

France332 Posts

March 04 2009 13:32 GMT

#796

I am not sure if this is the right thread to ask this question, but why are Player's ELO not the average of their 3 vsX ELO? From what i understand, at the beginning since everyone starts at 2000, a very good player progress slower, because when he beats someone good it is the same thing as when he beats a bad player. On the contrary, a bad player will deteriorate slower, because when he looses against someone bad, it's as if he had lost against an avarage player.

But normally, (if everyone stays on the same level), it should converge to the same value. But if i take Bisu, who played 300 games, his ELO is 111 points above his average ELO, which is huge! If i take a player with a lots of games like nada (620!), his ELO is only 16 points above his average, so it seems indeed that it is converging, but it takes longer than what i would have thought. If i take a "bad" player like MuMyug, his ELO is 30 points below his average ELO, so this seem to confirm the above theory. (but you have some bad players like tester whose ELO is still greater than their average). In fact the divergence seems to be highest with player with high ELO.

So that means that over time there is a dilatation of the ELO (which is obvious since everyone starts at 2000... but the point is that there can be a dilatation still after a long period of play). So even if the avarage stays the same, over time a good player will be ranked higher and a bad player lower.

What about elo peaks? Bisu with 2353 is probably better than oov with 2329. But ELO is not about who is the best in an absolute time frame (otherwise it would require a lot of inflation: a 2100 player of today is probably better than oov at his prime), ELO is about who is better "at the moment". And because of the dilatation (not the inflation), a 2353 bisu is not necesseraly more dominant than a 2329 oov was.

If i take the average of the 3 matchups peak, i get these rankings for some selected people:
jaedong: 2243
oov: 2239
flash: 2226
savior: 2225
nada: 2224
bisu: 2219
boxer: 2151

I am surprised that jaedong is so high while his elo's peak is rather low, but he peaked in his vsT ans vsP at completly different periods.

My point is, i think, that ELO is a great tool for what it does (comparing different players right now), but we must pay attention not to try to use it for other things (like knowing the most dominant player of all time). The ranking with the average peak elo means nothing either, but it shows that you have a ranking a bit different with a less dilated ranking (you can still see the dilatation in effect with boxer's avrg elo rather low).

(maybe i should have posted that in a new thread.)

GTR

51606 Posts

March 05 2009 20:14 GMT

#797

On March 04 2009 15:41 PoP wrote:

Show nested quote +

Probably either a replay or an unofficial televised game.

It's a replay.

p4NDemik

United States13896 Posts

March 10 2009 03:27 GMT

#798

A few headshots:

+ Show Spoiler +

Chavi

Killer

JongMi

oh, and a Hwaseung OZ logo (says Hwaseung below the OZ logo, not Lecaf)

iopq

United States1093 Posts

March 11 2009 12:05 GMT

#799

You put ZerO's name as Kim Myung Eun
His name in Korean is correct as far as I can tell and it should be either Kim Myung Woon or Kim Myung Un which are both spelling variants of 김명운
Kim Myung Eun is actually a different name, 김명은 in korean

p4NDemik

United States13896 Posts

March 11 2009 19:20 GMT

#800

On March 04 2009 18:40 SilverskY wrote:
May I suggest that we get new pics of BeSt and Kal for the TLPD? They look a bit outdated, and bit ugly lol.