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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
August 06 2008 15:43 GMT
#561
For the ELOs, since everyone is clustered in a 400 point range from 1900 to 2300, I propose simply deleting 1000 points from all progamers ratings. This will make 1000 "average" which is intuitive to Bnet and a lot of rating systems, and accentuates the point differences between players.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 02:28:35
August 07 2008 02:28 GMT
#562
since we've been familiar with 2300 being a retardedly badass rating since the days of gamei, i disagree
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
August 07 2008 02:45 GMT
#563
On August 06 2008 06:15 thedeadhaji wrote:
If there is a vod rating system in place in the future, I STRONGLY suggest a thumbs up or thumbs down system (where the basis is "would you call your friend over to watch it with you, kind of thing") rather than a numerical system, because the numerical system is bound to produce VERY similar ratings for most of the games that become fairly unuseful overall, kind of like how the replay ratings are on a variety of sites, with wcreplays coming into mind immediately b/c everyone rates high and like the lowerst rating ever is like a 7.5 and it is impossible to tell what game is actually good or not.

Yes but you'll always get the retards that will run through the vod section thumbs downing every vod =/.
Uraeus
Profile Joined February 2008
France1378 Posts
August 07 2008 09:15 GMT
#564
I made a few screenshots of new players for my posts in "Yakii's small VOD thread", as their TLPD entry shows no picutre.
They are not a very good quality (shots from a "small VOD") but are TLPD compliant (90x90p 24bits jpg file).
Should I send them to someone so they can be added to the database?

PS : extensive list : M18M, effort, Hyuk, iron[kal], rumor, and a new pic for Jangbi whose entry does not even look like him any more.
More pics to be added as MSL and OGN first rounds go on.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 07 2008 11:35 GMT
#565
I'll be updating new players with survivor/osl pictures as they go up.
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bestplanetsneakers
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada3 Posts
August 09 2008 18:41 GMT
#566
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 10 2008 04:53 GMT
#567
Petition to separate BlueStorm 1.1 from BlueStorm 1.2 seeing as the balance has changed substantially since the change
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51698 Posts
August 10 2008 12:03 GMT
#568
thats like saying we should seperate 815 3.1 from 3.2
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 10 2008 13:35 GMT
#569
But the difference is that BS1.1 has drastically different stats compared to BS1.2, although it was a subtle change, ZvT is now reletively balanced whereas before it was Zerg with a huge winrate over Terran. ZvP balance has also changed.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 11 2008 08:21 GMT
#570
yes please! i didnt know it wasn't seperate already ~_~
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 11 2008 08:27 GMT
#571
can we REALLY isolate effects of map change from the effects of gameplay cahnge independant of the change in map structure though?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 11 2008 10:38 GMT
#572
On August 11 2008 17:27 thedeadhaji wrote:
can we REALLY isolate effects of map change from the effects of gameplay cahnge independant of the change in map structure though?


1.2
Record: TvZ: 7-6 (53.8%) | ZvP: 6-14 (30%) | PvT: 4-8 (33.3%)
Mirrors: 5 TvT | 7 ZvZ | 5 PvP

1.1
Record: TvZ: 18-38 (32.1%) | ZvP: 27-22 (55.1%) | PvT: 22-24 (47.8%)
Mirrors: 33 TvT | 14 ZvZ | 24 PvP
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 11 2008 11:21 GMT
#573
cahnge in zvp gameplay cahnge (split the map gayness) has nothing to do with the changes in the map but rather a change in the players' approach in playing the map.

PvT is also a similar story, as terrans have figured out how to circumvent the early carrier tech, and capitalize on the timing openings as well as splitting the map and blocking the arbiter routes. And this doesnt have anything to do with the slight changes in the natural.

TvZ has a case in your argument, but th eother 5 matchups dont seem to support it.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 11 2008 11:22 GMT
#574
ie i'm pretty sure pvt katrina has VERy different stats from 2007 and 2008, and the map is essentially teh same sans minor minor changes.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 11 2008 11:45 GMT
#575
well katrina went from v1 to SE; thus has its stats divided. If nothing else the change in version represents a change in era for the map (and often has a corresponding balance change - e.g. 815, RH3). The change in blue storm, while minimal, still is a division in it's history which does correspond to somewhat of a balance shift in the map thus i beleive is warranted the division
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
August 11 2008 12:52 GMT
#576
Am I doing it wrong?

Everytime I go to watch VODs, I click TLPS -> VODs -> See the entire game list while I try to click No Spoilers... Is there a way to get to No Spoilers without... spoiling everything?
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 11 2008 14:14 GMT
#577
On August 11 2008 21:52 Chill wrote:
Am I doing it wrong?

Everytime I go to watch VODs, I click TLPS -> VODs -> See the entire game list while I try to click No Spoilers... Is there a way to get to No Spoilers without... spoiling everything?


you can go TLPD -> No spoiler

click TLPD main page, then look for this line
New! Spoilerless Game List / VOD List

right below some tabs
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 11 2008 14:15 GMT
#578
ah hm, i guess if Katrina is split despite there being like no changes (aside from some minerals), I guess that's pretty fair grounds for blue storm 1.1 and 1.2 being split.

Your argument for "era change" is pretty convincing too.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 11 2008 14:16 GMT
#579
i just thought of one problem though.

I think all the games on blue storm 1.2 have to be changed from 1.1 to 1.2 then? Is there a way to run a script to do that (pop?) after say a certain date?
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
August 11 2008 18:04 GMT
#580
that would be easily doable yeah

btw sorry for basically ignoring the last 2 pages of posts, i've been kinda busy lately but i've read them all
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