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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
October 27 2013 00:58 GMT
#1
Sated was recently permanently banned from TL for the following post

On October 27 2013 06:11 Sated wrote:
Where is Day[9]'s off-switch..? He and his brother are the embodiment of living off past fame.

User was banned for this post.


While the post was probably out of line, it has been somewhat common place to let such criticism of casters slide in the LR threads, with the harshest penalty ususally being a warning. Also, while the idea of the post was unacceptable, the wording wasn't terribly harsh. The point of all this being that it seems a bit harsh to go so harshly off of this post when so many similar ones are let slide.

The reason that Sated should be given another chance is that he does contribute meaningfully to the site:

1: Strategy - Sated plays Starcraft 2 at a high level and as such has a decent understanding of the mechanics and strategy required to play at that level. As evinced by his activity in the HotS Protoss Help Me Thread, as well as around the site in general, he has been a resource for strategy information. Given that people are always looking to TL for strategy help, it would be nice to keep around people that are able to provide that.

2: Liquipedia - Sated is an editor on liquipedia and has a long history of meaningful edits. In particular he has been helping out in 2 areas that are currently in need of more manpower, Team Pages, particularly for smaller teams, and Strategy. Having been a member of a smaller team himself, Sated has valuable knowledge of the more low key scene and has been willing to document a scene in which not many other contributors are active. He has also worked to keep protoss strategy pages up to date even during the transition to Heart of the Swarm. People look to liquipedia as a valuable strategy resource and Sated helps keep it up to date for that purpose.

3: Live Report Threads - As a regular participant of LR threads Sated helps create a fun and interesting environment for people to discuss games as they happen. He could generally be relied on to show in the threads of even relatively low key tournaments, and enjoyed some lighthearted ribbing (who could forget the dead jaedong sheep). The fun back and forth of LR threads is one of the best parts of TL and I think that his contribution here should be valued just like the others.

In short, does Sated perhaps have a history? Yes. Does he perhaps engage in occasional low content or out of line posting? Yes. However at the end of the day I think the extent of his contributions and his general good demeanor on the site warrant another chance.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 03:17:30
October 27 2013 03:13 GMT
#2
If other posts are out of line, how about report them rather than complain that the rules were enforced?

edit: I'm not saying you don't have a case, and there's precedent with templar for unbanning based on community service. But don't say we let that level of posting slide if we don't see reports on them.
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 03:38:01
October 27 2013 03:16 GMT
#3
On October 27 2013 12:13 JBright wrote:
If other posts are out of line, how about report them rather than complain that the rules were enforced?

I'm saying that after a certain point it seems like a precedent has been set. Perhaps it is still officially against the rules, but if 9 times out of 10 it doesn't get moderated then it seems that it might be unfair to bring the hammer down this hard on this particular kind of post.

edit for your edit: Sorry for the misunderstanding. I don't know as much about what goes on behind the scenes, I just have been in a lot of LR threads.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 29 2013 22:12 GMT
#4
He has a very long history of making posts similar to that and has been repeated warned/banned for it. His last 50 or so posts paint the same picture.
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