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I don't remember. I haven't read his posts since they happened. They seemed townie and seemed like they were heading up the right track.
My early reads are almost universally better than my later reads. When I start to waiver and reconsider things, I end up talking myself into dumb decisions.
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On September 18 2014 02:59 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:At the start of the day I had this plan to catch scum!robik and/or scum!obiwan by taking advantage of their beef with each other. I knew robik would vote obiwan at some point especially if I provoked it a little. Figured why not get it out of the way early: On September 15 2014 06:52 batsnacks wrote: Hey robik. I heard you hate obiwan, wanna vote him with me? I'll take the plunge first. Let me know.
##vote: ObiWanShinobi If I had realized there was a voting thread I probably would have posted there too but it's just as well that I didn't, I wasn't serious about the vote. Robik as planned did vote obiwan and beef did ensue. Robik did that thing where he called a bunch of people retards for disliking his stupid "personal reasons" vote. If I were present in the thread when all of that was happening I would have voted robik and I would have felt good about it, especially after he started spamming in all caps and throwing a tantrum about people voting him. But he's like 6 pages of filter since then and is looking a lot better. I know from past games that robik is stubborn and I feel like scum!robik would have been way more stubborn about the obiwan vote... like he would have tried anything to make it work. His posts were never that focused on obiwan though. The fact that he is more interested in playing the game than satisfying some weird personal issue is townie. Obiwan doesn't look scummy to me either. There's much less in his filter to comment on. I remember reading this last night and it bothered me; didn't think of why. Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. But he ends up essentially town-reading both. I haven't read Robik's filter, but from the quotes I've seen I haven't really gotten the sense that people think he's town or that he's done more than just call himself confirmed town, claim vt, etc. So Batsnacks getting the read on Robik here seems exceptionally out of place. To steal from Koshi Batsnacks +2 scum points The bolded doesn't make sense and didn't happen at all. He created a scenario to read both players. He read both town. The end.
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On September 18 2014 02:59 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:At the start of the day I had this plan to catch scum!robik and/or scum!obiwan by taking advantage of their beef with each other. I knew robik would vote obiwan at some point especially if I provoked it a little. Figured why not get it out of the way early: On September 15 2014 06:52 batsnacks wrote: Hey robik. I heard you hate obiwan, wanna vote him with me? I'll take the plunge first. Let me know.
##vote: ObiWanShinobi If I had realized there was a voting thread I probably would have posted there too but it's just as well that I didn't, I wasn't serious about the vote. Robik as planned did vote obiwan and beef did ensue. Robik did that thing where he called a bunch of people retards for disliking his stupid "personal reasons" vote. If I were present in the thread when all of that was happening I would have voted robik and I would have felt good about it, especially after he started spamming in all caps and throwing a tantrum about people voting him. But he's like 6 pages of filter since then and is looking a lot better. I know from past games that robik is stubborn and I feel like scum!robik would have been way more stubborn about the obiwan vote... like he would have tried anything to make it work. His posts were never that focused on obiwan though. The fact that he is more interested in playing the game than satisfying some weird personal issue is townie. Obiwan doesn't look scummy to me either. There's much less in his filter to comment on. I remember reading this last night and it bothered me; didn't think of why. Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. But he ends up essentially town-reading both. I haven't read Robik's filter, but from the quotes I've seen I haven't really gotten the sense that people think he's town or that he's done more than just call himself confirmed town, claim vt, etc. So Batsnacks getting the read on Robik here seems exceptionally out of place. To steal from Koshi Batsnacks +2 scum points I am also reading his filter and picked out this post. My problem is that he is trying to look like he is contributing but really isn't. The whole talk about Robik is completely unnecessary since he changed his read later.
YOU should be reading the thread instead though. I start to realize why you couldn't catch up in other games.
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On September 18 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:59 geript wrote:On September 16 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:At the start of the day I had this plan to catch scum!robik and/or scum!obiwan by taking advantage of their beef with each other. I knew robik would vote obiwan at some point especially if I provoked it a little. Figured why not get it out of the way early: On September 15 2014 06:52 batsnacks wrote: Hey robik. I heard you hate obiwan, wanna vote him with me? I'll take the plunge first. Let me know.
##vote: ObiWanShinobi If I had realized there was a voting thread I probably would have posted there too but it's just as well that I didn't, I wasn't serious about the vote. Robik as planned did vote obiwan and beef did ensue. Robik did that thing where he called a bunch of people retards for disliking his stupid "personal reasons" vote. If I were present in the thread when all of that was happening I would have voted robik and I would have felt good about it, especially after he started spamming in all caps and throwing a tantrum about people voting him. But he's like 6 pages of filter since then and is looking a lot better. I know from past games that robik is stubborn and I feel like scum!robik would have been way more stubborn about the obiwan vote... like he would have tried anything to make it work. His posts were never that focused on obiwan though. The fact that he is more interested in playing the game than satisfying some weird personal issue is townie. Obiwan doesn't look scummy to me either. There's much less in his filter to comment on. I remember reading this last night and it bothered me; didn't think of why. Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. But he ends up essentially town-reading both. I haven't read Robik's filter, but from the quotes I've seen I haven't really gotten the sense that people think he's town or that he's done more than just call himself confirmed town, claim vt, etc. So Batsnacks getting the read on Robik here seems exceptionally out of place. To steal from Koshi Batsnacks +2 scum points The bolded doesn't make sense and didn't happen at all. He created a scenario to read both players. He read both town. The end. This is true now that I think about it.
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Ok, I have read his filter and I still don't know what to think of it tbh. I disliked the post I already mentioned, I also dislike this post because it is again posting without really contributing anything relevant (at least he comes to a conclusion):
On September 16 2014 09:54 batsnacks wrote: Koshi is probably town. The ratio of scum to town in this game is .24. The absolute value of koshi's scum points awarded/town points awarded it is .62. So even though he has issued more town points than scum points, compared to the actual scum/town ratio the number of scum points he is issuing is high.
However, marv is over 50% of koshi's total awarded town points. If you remove marv from the equation koshi has issued 1.75 times as many scum points as town points.
And my conclusion is that he is townie. But I don't know if it makes him scum. And I don't know why but I liked this post somehow:
On September 16 2014 13:26 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2014 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote: It's pretty bad.
@batsnacks What did you think about what Tolkein wrote shortly after your vote on him? It was sort of like he farted and everyone suddenly noticed he was there.
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Lord Tolkien doesn't seem to bounce around on his reads so much compared to his town newbie game. Rather he's more confident in some of his reads and his reads don't really change at all. That's far more like his mafia newbie game. There's a decent amount of bitching about Wave not playing.
Lord Tolkien +1 scumpoint
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I wouldn't lynch batsnacks D2.
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So VE, what do you think about batsnacks and why/why did you want me to read him so bad?
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On September 18 2014 03:14 Koshi wrote: I wouldn't lynch batsnacks D2. And I have no reasoning for that tbh. just feels.
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On September 18 2014 03:14 Koshi wrote: I wouldn't lynch batsnacks D2. Me neither.
I actually had some reads I forgot to share. Let me go back and find them
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On September 18 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:59 geript wrote:On September 16 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:At the start of the day I had this plan to catch scum!robik and/or scum!obiwan by taking advantage of their beef with each other. I knew robik would vote obiwan at some point especially if I provoked it a little. Figured why not get it out of the way early: On September 15 2014 06:52 batsnacks wrote: Hey robik. I heard you hate obiwan, wanna vote him with me? I'll take the plunge first. Let me know.
##vote: ObiWanShinobi If I had realized there was a voting thread I probably would have posted there too but it's just as well that I didn't, I wasn't serious about the vote. Robik as planned did vote obiwan and beef did ensue. Robik did that thing where he called a bunch of people retards for disliking his stupid "personal reasons" vote. If I were present in the thread when all of that was happening I would have voted robik and I would have felt good about it, especially after he started spamming in all caps and throwing a tantrum about people voting him. But he's like 6 pages of filter since then and is looking a lot better. I know from past games that robik is stubborn and I feel like scum!robik would have been way more stubborn about the obiwan vote... like he would have tried anything to make it work. His posts were never that focused on obiwan though. The fact that he is more interested in playing the game than satisfying some weird personal issue is townie. Obiwan doesn't look scummy to me either. There's much less in his filter to comment on. I remember reading this last night and it bothered me; didn't think of why. Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. But he ends up essentially town-reading both. I haven't read Robik's filter, but from the quotes I've seen I haven't really gotten the sense that people think he's town or that he's done more than just call himself confirmed town, claim vt, etc. So Batsnacks getting the read on Robik here seems exceptionally out of place. To steal from Koshi Batsnacks +2 scum points The bolded doesn't make sense and didn't happen at all. He created a scenario to read both players. He read both town. The end. No Koshi. Look at how he gets there. Robik being stubborn jackass by throwing a tantrum and typing in all caps. But Scum robik would've been more stubborn about this one specific thing. I don't see that as being a good read. In the least it's a bad read. But I don't see how he can argue that Robik is more interested in playing than bringing up personal beef from what I've see. You're wrong.
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I have a slight townread on LT for his spew-string of posts on pg 124. Same goes for fecal, but to a slightly lesser extent.
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On September 18 2014 03:18 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:On September 18 2014 02:59 geript wrote:On September 16 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:At the start of the day I had this plan to catch scum!robik and/or scum!obiwan by taking advantage of their beef with each other. I knew robik would vote obiwan at some point especially if I provoked it a little. Figured why not get it out of the way early: On September 15 2014 06:52 batsnacks wrote: Hey robik. I heard you hate obiwan, wanna vote him with me? I'll take the plunge first. Let me know.
##vote: ObiWanShinobi If I had realized there was a voting thread I probably would have posted there too but it's just as well that I didn't, I wasn't serious about the vote. Robik as planned did vote obiwan and beef did ensue. Robik did that thing where he called a bunch of people retards for disliking his stupid "personal reasons" vote. If I were present in the thread when all of that was happening I would have voted robik and I would have felt good about it, especially after he started spamming in all caps and throwing a tantrum about people voting him. But he's like 6 pages of filter since then and is looking a lot better. I know from past games that robik is stubborn and I feel like scum!robik would have been way more stubborn about the obiwan vote... like he would have tried anything to make it work. His posts were never that focused on obiwan though. The fact that he is more interested in playing the game than satisfying some weird personal issue is townie. Obiwan doesn't look scummy to me either. There's much less in his filter to comment on. I remember reading this last night and it bothered me; didn't think of why. Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. But he ends up essentially town-reading both. I haven't read Robik's filter, but from the quotes I've seen I haven't really gotten the sense that people think he's town or that he's done more than just call himself confirmed town, claim vt, etc. So Batsnacks getting the read on Robik here seems exceptionally out of place. To steal from Koshi Batsnacks +2 scum points The bolded doesn't make sense and didn't happen at all. He created a scenario to read both players. He read both town. The end. No Koshi. Look at how he gets there. Robik being stubborn jackass by throwing a tantrum and typing in all caps. But Scum robik would've been more stubborn about this one specific thing. I don't see that as being a good read. In the least it's a bad read. But I don't see how he can argue that Robik is more interested in playing than bringing up personal beef from what I've see. You're wrong. he's saying that if I were scum, I'd be more likely to continue pushing a lynch!cava agenda than focusing on anythign else and would continue to push that agenda. He's not saying I'm not a stubborn asshole. He's saying I would be more of a stubborn asshole specifically regarding cava
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On September 18 2014 03:18 IAmRobik wrote: I have a slight townread on LT for his spew-string of posts on pg 124. Same goes for fecal, but to a slightly lesser extent. And yeah, I know I just painted him in red.
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On September 18 2014 03:18 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:On September 18 2014 02:59 geript wrote:On September 16 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:At the start of the day I had this plan to catch scum!robik and/or scum!obiwan by taking advantage of their beef with each other. I knew robik would vote obiwan at some point especially if I provoked it a little. Figured why not get it out of the way early: On September 15 2014 06:52 batsnacks wrote: Hey robik. I heard you hate obiwan, wanna vote him with me? I'll take the plunge first. Let me know.
##vote: ObiWanShinobi If I had realized there was a voting thread I probably would have posted there too but it's just as well that I didn't, I wasn't serious about the vote. Robik as planned did vote obiwan and beef did ensue. Robik did that thing where he called a bunch of people retards for disliking his stupid "personal reasons" vote. If I were present in the thread when all of that was happening I would have voted robik and I would have felt good about it, especially after he started spamming in all caps and throwing a tantrum about people voting him. But he's like 6 pages of filter since then and is looking a lot better. I know from past games that robik is stubborn and I feel like scum!robik would have been way more stubborn about the obiwan vote... like he would have tried anything to make it work. His posts were never that focused on obiwan though. The fact that he is more interested in playing the game than satisfying some weird personal issue is townie. Obiwan doesn't look scummy to me either. There's much less in his filter to comment on. I remember reading this last night and it bothered me; didn't think of why. Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. But he ends up essentially town-reading both. I haven't read Robik's filter, but from the quotes I've seen I haven't really gotten the sense that people think he's town or that he's done more than just call himself confirmed town, claim vt, etc. So Batsnacks getting the read on Robik here seems exceptionally out of place. To steal from Koshi Batsnacks +2 scum points The bolded doesn't make sense and didn't happen at all. He created a scenario to read both players. He read both town. The end. No Koshi. Look at how he gets there. Robik being stubborn jackass by throwing a tantrum and typing in all caps. But Scum robik would've been more stubborn about this one specific thing. I don't see that as being a good read. In the least it's a bad read. But I don't see how he can argue that Robik is more interested in playing than bringing up personal beef from what I've see. You're wrong. Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. This is what you say. What you say here is a misinterpretation of the situation. batsnacks says he created a situation so he could read Obi and Robik. Then he gives his read on Robik and Obi.
Now.. I don't find his read on Robik or Obi unreasonable.
But... That is not what you said in the first place. This is what you said: Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. You are wrong.
The End.
PS: I am going to ignore you and let you do your thing. You claimed mafia in my eyes by lying about being for PGO and then giving nonsensical reasons to why you lied.
PS2: The only reason I replied to the batsnacks stuff is because the only reason I will not vote you tomorrow is if you do decent analysis. But this batsnacks stuff is not decent if you misinterpret the situation.
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On September 18 2014 02:54 Damdred wrote: @Geript, does not make a ton of sense. Nobody was even hinting at counter claiming you, everyone had you as confirmed town you had all the time in the world. You chose to lie, and then 12 hours or however long later you pop up and say whops i lied. You made the thread about this, you still aren't caught up instead you are reading filters.
Your explanations do not make sense, there was no reason to lie in the firs tplace pretty sure most people would be happy to let you catch up but ya know, I think you claimed scum basically
I don't know if you missed this geript will you answer
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On September 18 2014 03:14 Koshi wrote:And I have no reasoning for that tbh. just feels. Yeah, same kinda.
Btw. is TL acting up for other people too?
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On September 18 2014 03:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:54 Damdred wrote: @Geript, does not make a ton of sense. Nobody was even hinting at counter claiming you, everyone had you as confirmed town you had all the time in the world. You chose to lie, and then 12 hours or however long later you pop up and say whops i lied. You made the thread about this, you still aren't caught up instead you are reading filters.
Your explanations do not make sense, there was no reason to lie in the firs tplace pretty sure most people would be happy to let you catch up but ya know, I think you claimed scum basically I don't know if you missed this geript will you answer There's reason to lie. Maybe not a good one but I don't care. Also, if you've never replaced in then you don't know how frustrating it can be. Like I have no clue who had a townread on me prior. Doesn't matter. I'll put good shit into the thread or get lynched. I don't see how I made the thread about anything. People do what they're going to do.
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On September 18 2014 03:13 geript wrote: Lord Tolkien doesn't seem to bounce around on his reads so much compared to his town newbie game. Rather he's more confident in some of his reads and his reads don't really change at all. That's far more like his mafia newbie game. There's a decent amount of bitching about Wave not playing.
Lord Tolkien +1 scumpoint Wave bitching is because I only signed up because he asked me to.
Mafia too big timesink 4 me. Esp with LoL WC starting tomorrow.
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