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Currently the WCS season finals is played in the middle of the night from a European perspective. This means that WCS Season finals loses almost all European viewers. So I was thinking on how to solve this so that both Korea, Europe and the US can watch at a reasonable time.
Premise Korea is 7 currently 7 hours ahead of Europe (using Central European Summer time) Europe is currently 7 hours ahead of USA (using Central Standard Time). The season finale in South Korea should not be played at a time that is in the middle of the night in Korea, Europe or the US. The most important matches: quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals should be prioritized.
Solution The most important matches should be played between 9 PM to 1 AM Korean time. That would be 7 AM to 11 AM in the US, and 2 PM to 6 PM in Europe.
This is obviously not ideal, but is much better then the current solution where Europe missed the whole WCS season final.
It would be a bit ironic if WCS Europe had more viewers the WCS season final.
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since OGN is producing and this is going on TV, I doubt there can be any last minute changes. They must have considered this.
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It just seems like whoever made this timetable screwed up. WCS AM finals had half the audience of WCS EU, yet it looks like they are going to just ignore EU viewers. Come on, if GSL can be remotely watchable for EU, why it is not a case with something so grand and well thought as WCS finals + Show Spoiler +?
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You will never have matches so late in evening in Korea. I am not sure how young viewers there are, but obviously the trend is to have finals on afternoons. The reason might be age of viewers and also time schedule patterns on TV.
I think you can be darn sure that Blizz and other related agencies solved this issue a lot and came up with most suitable sollution for all business parties. Viewers from EU have to adapt..
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United States23455 Posts
Europeans will always want the times best for them.
Americans will always want the times best for them.
Koreans will always want the times best for them.
Australians will always want the times best for them.
Every region gets a season final. While the KR final will suck for EU, the EU final will suck for Americans, and the America final will suck for Koreans and so on. There is no need to change anything. Also the idea of having the matches starting at 9:00 PM in Korea is hilarious. There would literally be 3 people in the crowd.
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I have to work tomorrow (currently its thursday 2013/6/6, 9:35AM) and I'll get up at 3AM to watch... :D
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On June 06 2013 16:34 Fionn wrote: Koreans will always want the times best for them.
Australians will always want the times best for them.
These are almost the same thing to be honest, There is barely a time difference which is great for watching the gsl! Also does the wcs website display the timetable in your own time?
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I always just all-nighter for the GSLs that I care about. If people care, they can always go to sleep a bit earlier and wake up at 3,4,5 AM. Or whatever. The least ideal times for me are actually 7-11 AM. Europeans definitely have it best in this position, though. If anything, I'd like them to have the tournament a bit earlier, that way it isn't 5 AM. 3 AM is perfectly fine.
(American speaking)
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guys, this time around it's gonna suck for us because it's in Korea, in season 2 it's gonna suck for americans and be great for us because it's in Europe, and in season 3 it's gonna kinda suck for us and Koreans again but will be great for Americans cause it's in NA. that's just how it is.
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On June 06 2013 16:37 A Wild Sosd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 16:34 Fionn wrote: Koreans will always want the times best for them.
Australians will always want the times best for them.
These are almost the same thing to be honest, There is barely a time difference which is great for watching the gsl! Also does the wcs website display the timetable in your own time?
Yes the website does!
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All paid for and organised, no changes are going to take place now.
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On June 06 2013 16:17 MockHamill wrote: Solution The most important matches should be played between 9 PM to 1 AM Korean time. That would be 7 AM to 11 AM in the US, and 2 PM to 6 PM in Europe.
IIRC, I remember the Code-A caster mentionning the 'under-aged-rule' that means that in Korea, player below 18 are not allowed to play 'online' between midnight and 8am
Furthermore the Law of the land state:
Law No. 5309, Mar. 13, 1997.- Labor Standards Act Chapter V "Female and Minor"
Article 68 (Prohibition of Night Work)
Neither female nor minor under the age of 18 shall not be forced to work during a time period from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. or on holidays. However, if the consent of the worker concerned and the approval of the Ministry of labor has been obtained, this shall not apply.
So GomTV would need a special approval to get many of the player to compete if the schedule was 9pm to 1am I somehow doubt they would be granted such waiver on the sole justification of making the schedule 'more convenient' for European viewer...
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I expected since GSL is always in a reasonable time for EU the same would be true for the WCS global finals, too bad it isn't. Apparently the finals are quite early for Koreans, is that to make it better for NA viewers?
guys, this time around it's gonna suck for us because it's in Korea, in season 2 it's gonna suck for americans and be great for us because it's in Europe, and in season 3 it's gonna kinda suck for us and Koreans again but will be great for Americans cause it's in NA. that's just how it is. Tbh if they do the finals (/semi-finals) in the evening, which is what I would generally expect, than season 2 will be fine for Americans, and season 3 will be also fine for Americans and suck again for Europe. What you say is only true if they do it always in the early afternoon, which quite frankly would surprise me.
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On June 06 2013 16:45 Schelim wrote: guys, this time around it's gonna suck for us because it's in Korea, in season 2 it's gonna suck for americans and be great for us because it's in Europe, and in season 3 it's gonna kinda suck for us and Koreans again but will be great for Americans cause it's in NA. that's just how it is.
I dont get why everyone say that EU is bad for NA. I suppose its sort of bad for people on the west coast but for the rest it is not a problem in my eyes. I mean if goes on a weekend, which it will, and goes between ~16:00-24:00 CET it will air between 10:00-18:00 US East coast. Again it is on a weekend day.
How is that a "horrible" time? Even if you are lazy and cannot bother to wake up before 09~10 the only thing you are going to miss is like the first group/quarterfinal or something along those line.
To touch on the topic, yes it is a bad time for EU and most likely the EU finals will have greater number than this because of it. Personally I will try to wake up early to catch the ending Saturday and Sunday. As for the ideal time zone, I think events starting in early day in EU is the best time zone for EU/NA, not for Asia though. The peak number of viewers are usually achieved around weekends ~20-01:30 CET.
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On June 06 2013 17:28 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 16:45 Schelim wrote: guys, this time around it's gonna suck for us because it's in Korea, in season 2 it's gonna suck for americans and be great for us because it's in Europe, and in season 3 it's gonna kinda suck for us and Koreans again but will be great for Americans cause it's in NA. that's just how it is. I dont get why everyone say that EU is bad for NA. I suppose its sort of bad for people on the west coast but for the rest it is not a problem in my eyes. I mean if goes on a weekend, which it will, and goes between ~16:00-24:00 CET it will air between 10:00-18:00 US East coast. Again it is on a weekend day. How is that a "horrible" time? Even if you are lazy and cannot bother to wake up before 09~10 the only thing you are going to miss is like the first group/quarterfinal or something along those line. To touch on the topic, yes it is a bad time for EU and most likely the EU finals will have greater number than this because of it. Personally I will try to wake up early to catch the ending Saturday and Sunday. As for the ideal time zone, I think events starting in early day in EU is the best time zone for EU/NA, not for Asia though. The peak number of viewers are usually achieved around weekends ~20-01:30 CET. i guess that's subjective. i don't usually sit at home on a weekend day unless i have something important to do for uni. or if i'm hungover i guess
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For NA, regular GSL starts at 2am PT or 5am ET. EU can live with one event being in the middle of the night...
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bullshit making a final where the region with double amount of viewers then US had cant watch ... whats that shit ? how can blizzard allow OGN doing that ?
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On June 06 2013 17:28 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 16:45 Schelim wrote: guys, this time around it's gonna suck for us because it's in Korea, in season 2 it's gonna suck for americans and be great for us because it's in Europe, and in season 3 it's gonna kinda suck for us and Koreans again but will be great for Americans cause it's in NA. that's just how it is. I dont get why everyone say that EU is bad for NA. I suppose its sort of bad for people on the west coast but for the rest it is not a problem in my eyes. I mean if goes on a weekend, which it will, and goes between ~16:00-24:00 CET it will air between 10:00-18:00 US East coast. Again it is on a weekend day. How is that a "horrible" time? Even if you are lazy and cannot bother to wake up before 09~10 the only thing you are going to miss is like the first group/quarterfinal or something along those line. To touch on the topic, yes it is a bad time for EU and most likely the EU finals will have greater number than this because of it. Personally I will try to wake up early to catch the ending Saturday and Sunday. As for the ideal time zone, I think events starting in early day in EU is the best time zone for EU/NA, not for Asia though. The peak number of viewers are usually achieved around weekends ~20-01:30 CET.
its starting 10am in korea and tahts 3am in europe, dont know whats night for you but 3am is for me
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On June 06 2013 18:09 CoR wrote: bullshit making a final where the region with double amount of viewers then US had cant watch ... whats that shit ? how can blizzard allow OGN doing that ? and exactly how else are you going to schedule a day with four dual tournament BO3 groups? lol think about the logistics
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On June 06 2013 16:34 Fionn wrote: Every region gets a season final. While the KR final will suck for EU, the EU final will suck for Americans, and the America final will suck for Koreans and so on. There is no need to change anything. Also the idea of having the matches starting at 9:00 PM in Korea is hilarious. There would literally be 3 people in the crowd.
Wrong. European events are in pretty good times for Americans. Dreamhack finals rounds are even a lot better times for Americans than Europeans.
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