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I'm not worried about the turnovers. His "league-leading" TOs per game has a lot of it has to do with how many P&R plays he does and the high number of minutes he has had. His Turnover % (percent of times he turns it over per play) is high, but not exceptionally high. Ricky Rubio and Steve Nash have a higher TO%
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On February 17 2012 06:06 Zlasher wrote: Just because something is successful doesn't mean its the best move to make....
Just because something is successful but risky doesn't mean it was the wrong move to make. The criticism doesn't hold water unless Lin makes it a habit, and he's only played seven games so we don't know if it is a habit.
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On February 17 2012 02:18 Tossim111 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 15:44 Jeremy Lin wrote:On February 16 2012 09:43 Jibba wrote:On February 16 2012 08:19 AntiGrav1ty wrote:On February 16 2012 06:22 Jibba wrote: Let me put it this way - I wouldn't want Kobe or Lebron or Durant taking that shot either. The whole "clutch"/"fearless" mythos in the NBA has been taken to epic proportions by Kobe and ESPN, and that 3 - no matter how much he was "feeling" it - was simply not his best option. There's pages devoted to "clutch" in the other threads.
I don't see how this was a bad shot at all. Calderon sagged off a lot to prevent the drive. Also he tried to Force Lin to his left which is considerably weaker. If goes for the drive o drive and does get denied he has to take a fadeaway jumper or some shot off the dribble which is considerably harder than a wide open 3. Or he risks a turnover be cause he got caught a couple of times in that game already and the Raptors help defense was pretty good in that game. The knicks got blocked a lot around the rim. So his options are: Drive to the left with possibility of not getting to the rim at all, getting denied at the rim by help defense, getting trapped by a double team, or passing it out with a risk for a turnover to some mediocre shooters. (Fields, Shumpert, Chandler and Amare are not known for clutch 3s). A lot of ifs Or He takes an open 3 You are criticizin Lins accomplishments in every single post you make but this one is just not valid. No, his primary option is going to the right because Calderon can't do anything on his own. He's likely getting the foul, but if he doesn't like the position of the interior defenders, he drives, steps back and shoots a regular jumpshot from the top of the key, which is one of his most common moves. When you have room, you get closer to the basket. This is just fundamentals. If it were in the middle of the game and Hubie Brown was casting, he'd go on a rant about it. People are being hysterical and emotional. Yo man I been checking what my fans have to say about me in this thread and I gotta say man what you got against me huh? I don't see you getting all anal about analysing Flash games and acting like some kind of arrogant devil's advocate armchair critic when the results speak for themselves. Why don't you put up some YouTube videos of your shots huh what you got nigga what you got? User was banned for this post. jibba u sound ridiculous, if ure given enough room u go for the shot. caulderon was obviously closing in for the drive. driving in is what lin probably wanted to do, but seeing as his opp. is giving him an open look for 3 he took it, easy decision. you dont stop to think about ur percentage especially when its closing seconds to the quarter edit: how can anyone be critical about something that happened SUCCESSFULLY? results speak for themselves How is there even a debate about this?? Game tied, you have the last possession. Jibba is absolutely right in this instance. He absolutely buried that shot, but praising that as the right move because it worked is like yanking a pot out from under a dude in poker by winning with a 2-10 vs AA and not recognizing how lucky it was.
Would have been a much more sure thing to drive there, even if he nailed that. Run that same scenario over 100 times, and he'd get at least 1 or 2 from a foul or fg way more often than he would pulling up for a 3.
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Funny thing: If that was Lebron James who took and hit that shot he'd be getting roasted right now.
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On February 17 2012 06:24 domovoi wrote: I'm not worried about the turnovers. His "league-leading" TOs per game has a lot of it has to do with how many P&R plays he does and the high number of minutes he has had. His Turnover % (percent of times he turns it over per play) is high, but not exceptionally high. Ricky Rubio and Steve Nash have a higher TO%
TOs is the last thing that should bother anyone, at least atm. This is a rookie playing with the guys hes never played with before. It could be alarming but unless he keeps it up after 15-20 games I would just disregard this
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Lalalaland34461 Posts
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MTO is known for fabricating stories and spreading rumors. Could be true but most people don't ever quote them as a credible source.
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On February 17 2012 06:44 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 02:18 Tossim111 wrote:On February 16 2012 15:44 Jeremy Lin wrote:On February 16 2012 09:43 Jibba wrote:On February 16 2012 08:19 AntiGrav1ty wrote:On February 16 2012 06:22 Jibba wrote: Let me put it this way - I wouldn't want Kobe or Lebron or Durant taking that shot either. The whole "clutch"/"fearless" mythos in the NBA has been taken to epic proportions by Kobe and ESPN, and that 3 - no matter how much he was "feeling" it - was simply not his best option. There's pages devoted to "clutch" in the other threads.
I don't see how this was a bad shot at all. Calderon sagged off a lot to prevent the drive. Also he tried to Force Lin to his left which is considerably weaker. If goes for the drive o drive and does get denied he has to take a fadeaway jumper or some shot off the dribble which is considerably harder than a wide open 3. Or he risks a turnover be cause he got caught a couple of times in that game already and the Raptors help defense was pretty good in that game. The knicks got blocked a lot around the rim. So his options are: Drive to the left with possibility of not getting to the rim at all, getting denied at the rim by help defense, getting trapped by a double team, or passing it out with a risk for a turnover to some mediocre shooters. (Fields, Shumpert, Chandler and Amare are not known for clutch 3s). A lot of ifs Or He takes an open 3 You are criticizin Lins accomplishments in every single post you make but this one is just not valid. No, his primary option is going to the right because Calderon can't do anything on his own. He's likely getting the foul, but if he doesn't like the position of the interior defenders, he drives, steps back and shoots a regular jumpshot from the top of the key, which is one of his most common moves. When you have room, you get closer to the basket. This is just fundamentals. If it were in the middle of the game and Hubie Brown was casting, he'd go on a rant about it. People are being hysterical and emotional. Yo man I been checking what my fans have to say about me in this thread and I gotta say man what you got against me huh? I don't see you getting all anal about analysing Flash games and acting like some kind of arrogant devil's advocate armchair critic when the results speak for themselves. Why don't you put up some YouTube videos of your shots huh what you got nigga what you got? User was banned for this post. jibba u sound ridiculous, if ure given enough room u go for the shot. caulderon was obviously closing in for the drive. driving in is what lin probably wanted to do, but seeing as his opp. is giving him an open look for 3 he took it, easy decision. you dont stop to think about ur percentage especially when its closing seconds to the quarter edit: how can anyone be critical about something that happened SUCCESSFULLY? results speak for themselves How is there even a debate about this?? Game tied, you have the last possession. Jibba is absolutely right in this instance. He absolutely buried that shot, but praising that as the right move because it worked is like yanking a pot out from under a dude in poker by winning with a 2-10 vs AA and not recognizing how lucky it was. Would have been a much more sure thing to drive there, even if he nailed that. Run that same scenario over 100 times, and he'd get at least 1 or 2 from a foul or fg way more often than he would pulling up for a 3. There's a strategic effect at play however. Since taking the shot is not a strictly dominated strategy, and since the defender knew this, there was a mixed strategy at play. The mixed strategy nash equilibrium always assigns an equal payoff to each option. And since taking the shot was not strictly dominated, Lin should've played it with a nonzero probability.
Again, that's not saying he should do it every time, but he should not drive every time either. Unpredictability is key to success in this type of game.
To model this we can set up a 2x2 zero-sum game matrix for point expectation where Lin is the column player and his defender is the row player:
Jumpshot Drive Loose Defense 1.5 +epsilon = 3 * (1/2 + epsilon) 1 = 2 * 1/2 Aggressive Defense 0.75 = 3 * 1/4 1.5 = 2 * 3/4
In this case, the Nash equilibrium is clearly a mixed strategy since neither strategy dominates the other.
On the other hand, if we consider the endgame scenario with variance and assign a value of 1 to winning and 0 to going to overtime, we can get
Jumpshot Drive Loose Defense 1/2 + epsilon 1/2 Aggressive Defense 1/4 3/4
So as long as epsilon is nonzero in this model, we can't fault Lin for taking the jumpshot.
Disclaimer: These probabilities are half pulled out of my ass and half presumed based on some shitty statistics I was able to find on Google.
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On February 17 2012 06:44 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 02:18 Tossim111 wrote:On February 16 2012 15:44 Jeremy Lin wrote:On February 16 2012 09:43 Jibba wrote:On February 16 2012 08:19 AntiGrav1ty wrote:On February 16 2012 06:22 Jibba wrote: Let me put it this way - I wouldn't want Kobe or Lebron or Durant taking that shot either. The whole "clutch"/"fearless" mythos in the NBA has been taken to epic proportions by Kobe and ESPN, and that 3 - no matter how much he was "feeling" it - was simply not his best option. There's pages devoted to "clutch" in the other threads.
I don't see how this was a bad shot at all. Calderon sagged off a lot to prevent the drive. Also he tried to Force Lin to his left which is considerably weaker. If goes for the drive o drive and does get denied he has to take a fadeaway jumper or some shot off the dribble which is considerably harder than a wide open 3. Or he risks a turnover be cause he got caught a couple of times in that game already and the Raptors help defense was pretty good in that game. The knicks got blocked a lot around the rim. So his options are: Drive to the left with possibility of not getting to the rim at all, getting denied at the rim by help defense, getting trapped by a double team, or passing it out with a risk for a turnover to some mediocre shooters. (Fields, Shumpert, Chandler and Amare are not known for clutch 3s). A lot of ifs Or He takes an open 3 You are criticizin Lins accomplishments in every single post you make but this one is just not valid. No, his primary option is going to the right because Calderon can't do anything on his own. He's likely getting the foul, but if he doesn't like the position of the interior defenders, he drives, steps back and shoots a regular jumpshot from the top of the key, which is one of his most common moves. When you have room, you get closer to the basket. This is just fundamentals. If it were in the middle of the game and Hubie Brown was casting, he'd go on a rant about it. People are being hysterical and emotional. Yo man I been checking what my fans have to say about me in this thread and I gotta say man what you got against me huh? I don't see you getting all anal about analysing Flash games and acting like some kind of arrogant devil's advocate armchair critic when the results speak for themselves. Why don't you put up some YouTube videos of your shots huh what you got nigga what you got? User was banned for this post. jibba u sound ridiculous, if ure given enough room u go for the shot. caulderon was obviously closing in for the drive. driving in is what lin probably wanted to do, but seeing as his opp. is giving him an open look for 3 he took it, easy decision. you dont stop to think about ur percentage especially when its closing seconds to the quarter edit: how can anyone be critical about something that happened SUCCESSFULLY? results speak for themselves How is there even a debate about this?? Game tied, you have the last possession. Jibba is absolutely right in this instance. He absolutely buried that shot, but praising that as the right move because it worked is like yanking a pot out from under a dude in poker by winning with a 2-10 vs AA and not recognizing how lucky it was. Would have been a much more sure thing to drive there, even if he nailed that. Run that same scenario over 100 times, and he'd get at least 1 or 2 from a foul or fg way more often than he would pulling up for a 3. I think it's arguable; it's certainly not as extreme as 2-10 vs. AA. The thing about getting fouled is that it would give Toronto more time to tie or win the game, especially if he misses a FT (almost 50% chance of that happening assuming 75% FT%). A 3 at the near last second basically puts the game away.
Also, refs are generally reluctant to call that foul unless it's really obvious.
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On February 17 2012 07:12 domovoi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 06:44 Hawk wrote:On February 17 2012 02:18 Tossim111 wrote:On February 16 2012 15:44 Jeremy Lin wrote:On February 16 2012 09:43 Jibba wrote:On February 16 2012 08:19 AntiGrav1ty wrote:On February 16 2012 06:22 Jibba wrote: Let me put it this way - I wouldn't want Kobe or Lebron or Durant taking that shot either. The whole "clutch"/"fearless" mythos in the NBA has been taken to epic proportions by Kobe and ESPN, and that 3 - no matter how much he was "feeling" it - was simply not his best option. There's pages devoted to "clutch" in the other threads.
I don't see how this was a bad shot at all. Calderon sagged off a lot to prevent the drive. Also he tried to Force Lin to his left which is considerably weaker. If goes for the drive o drive and does get denied he has to take a fadeaway jumper or some shot off the dribble which is considerably harder than a wide open 3. Or he risks a turnover be cause he got caught a couple of times in that game already and the Raptors help defense was pretty good in that game. The knicks got blocked a lot around the rim. So his options are: Drive to the left with possibility of not getting to the rim at all, getting denied at the rim by help defense, getting trapped by a double team, or passing it out with a risk for a turnover to some mediocre shooters. (Fields, Shumpert, Chandler and Amare are not known for clutch 3s). A lot of ifs Or He takes an open 3 You are criticizin Lins accomplishments in every single post you make but this one is just not valid. No, his primary option is going to the right because Calderon can't do anything on his own. He's likely getting the foul, but if he doesn't like the position of the interior defenders, he drives, steps back and shoots a regular jumpshot from the top of the key, which is one of his most common moves. When you have room, you get closer to the basket. This is just fundamentals. If it were in the middle of the game and Hubie Brown was casting, he'd go on a rant about it. People are being hysterical and emotional. Yo man I been checking what my fans have to say about me in this thread and I gotta say man what you got against me huh? I don't see you getting all anal about analysing Flash games and acting like some kind of arrogant devil's advocate armchair critic when the results speak for themselves. Why don't you put up some YouTube videos of your shots huh what you got nigga what you got? User was banned for this post. jibba u sound ridiculous, if ure given enough room u go for the shot. caulderon was obviously closing in for the drive. driving in is what lin probably wanted to do, but seeing as his opp. is giving him an open look for 3 he took it, easy decision. you dont stop to think about ur percentage especially when its closing seconds to the quarter edit: how can anyone be critical about something that happened SUCCESSFULLY? results speak for themselves How is there even a debate about this?? Game tied, you have the last possession. Jibba is absolutely right in this instance. He absolutely buried that shot, but praising that as the right move because it worked is like yanking a pot out from under a dude in poker by winning with a 2-10 vs AA and not recognizing how lucky it was. Would have been a much more sure thing to drive there, even if he nailed that. Run that same scenario over 100 times, and he'd get at least 1 or 2 from a foul or fg way more often than he would pulling up for a 3. I think it's arguable; it's certainly not as extreme as 2-10 vs. AA. The thing about getting fouled is that it would give Toronto more time to tie or win the game, especially if he misses a FT (almost 50% chance of that happening assuming 75% FT%). A 3 at the near last second basically puts the game away. Also, refs are generally reluctant to call that foul unless it's really obvious. I think it's arguable even without the 3 vs. 1 or 2. See my post above yours taking variance into account and assuming that only a game win has payoff of 1 and other outcomes have payoff 0 with respect to Lin/Knicks.
It doesn't really matter if it's as extreme as 2-10 vs. AA. Both games share the property that you should bet on a 2-10 sometimes (or in mathspeak, call with nonzero probability). That somebody plays a 2-10 against an AA doesn't mean it was the wrong decision in a game of imperfect information, since you will have a strictly losing expectation in the game as a whole if you never play on a 2-10.
Remember guys, Lin has a degree in economics at Harvard, so it is safe to assume he studied and fairly safe to assume that he thoroughly understands this kind of shit. It's not ex-post rationalization I'm making up here, but I'll be willing to bet he has actively considered these situations before he made the call based on this analysis as opposed to a panic move.
What it comes down to is whether the probability of the shot landing, given a good look, is better than the probability of scoring off a drive to the bad hand on a weak iso. As long as this is the case, he should always sometimes take the shot. (always sometimes meaning, he should always consider taking the shot with nonzero probability :p)
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On February 17 2012 07:23 Gummy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 07:12 domovoi wrote:On February 17 2012 06:44 Hawk wrote:On February 17 2012 02:18 Tossim111 wrote:On February 16 2012 15:44 Jeremy Lin wrote:On February 16 2012 09:43 Jibba wrote:On February 16 2012 08:19 AntiGrav1ty wrote:On February 16 2012 06:22 Jibba wrote: Let me put it this way - I wouldn't want Kobe or Lebron or Durant taking that shot either. The whole "clutch"/"fearless" mythos in the NBA has been taken to epic proportions by Kobe and ESPN, and that 3 - no matter how much he was "feeling" it - was simply not his best option. There's pages devoted to "clutch" in the other threads.
I don't see how this was a bad shot at all. Calderon sagged off a lot to prevent the drive. Also he tried to Force Lin to his left which is considerably weaker. If goes for the drive o drive and does get denied he has to take a fadeaway jumper or some shot off the dribble which is considerably harder than a wide open 3. Or he risks a turnover be cause he got caught a couple of times in that game already and the Raptors help defense was pretty good in that game. The knicks got blocked a lot around the rim. So his options are: Drive to the left with possibility of not getting to the rim at all, getting denied at the rim by help defense, getting trapped by a double team, or passing it out with a risk for a turnover to some mediocre shooters. (Fields, Shumpert, Chandler and Amare are not known for clutch 3s). A lot of ifs Or He takes an open 3 You are criticizin Lins accomplishments in every single post you make but this one is just not valid. No, his primary option is going to the right because Calderon can't do anything on his own. He's likely getting the foul, but if he doesn't like the position of the interior defenders, he drives, steps back and shoots a regular jumpshot from the top of the key, which is one of his most common moves. When you have room, you get closer to the basket. This is just fundamentals. If it were in the middle of the game and Hubie Brown was casting, he'd go on a rant about it. People are being hysterical and emotional. Yo man I been checking what my fans have to say about me in this thread and I gotta say man what you got against me huh? I don't see you getting all anal about analysing Flash games and acting like some kind of arrogant devil's advocate armchair critic when the results speak for themselves. Why don't you put up some YouTube videos of your shots huh what you got nigga what you got? User was banned for this post. jibba u sound ridiculous, if ure given enough room u go for the shot. caulderon was obviously closing in for the drive. driving in is what lin probably wanted to do, but seeing as his opp. is giving him an open look for 3 he took it, easy decision. you dont stop to think about ur percentage especially when its closing seconds to the quarter edit: how can anyone be critical about something that happened SUCCESSFULLY? results speak for themselves How is there even a debate about this?? Game tied, you have the last possession. Jibba is absolutely right in this instance. He absolutely buried that shot, but praising that as the right move because it worked is like yanking a pot out from under a dude in poker by winning with a 2-10 vs AA and not recognizing how lucky it was. Would have been a much more sure thing to drive there, even if he nailed that. Run that same scenario over 100 times, and he'd get at least 1 or 2 from a foul or fg way more often than he would pulling up for a 3. I think it's arguable; it's certainly not as extreme as 2-10 vs. AA. The thing about getting fouled is that it would give Toronto more time to tie or win the game, especially if he misses a FT (almost 50% chance of that happening assuming 75% FT%). A 3 at the near last second basically puts the game away. Also, refs are generally reluctant to call that foul unless it's really obvious. I think it's arguable even without the 3 vs. 1 or 2. See my post above yours taking variance into account and assuming that only a game win has payoff of 1 and other outcomes have payoff 0 with respect to Lin/Knicks. It doesn't really matter if it's as extreme as 2-10 vs. AA. Both games share the property that you should bet on a 2-10 sometimes (or in mathspeak, call with nonzero probability). That somebody plays a 2-10 against an AA doesn't mean it was the wrong decision in a game of imperfect information, since you will have a strictly losing expectation in the game as a whole if you never play on a 2-10. Remember guys, Lin has a degree in economics at Harvard, so it is safe to assume he studied and fairly safe to assume that he thoroughly understands this kind of shit. It's not ex-post rationalization I'm making up here, but I'll be willing to bet he has actively considered these situations before he made the call based on this analysis as opposed to a panic move. Yes, you make a good point, though I'd say it's even arguable without the game theory considerations.
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On February 17 2012 07:28 domovoi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 07:23 Gummy wrote:On February 17 2012 07:12 domovoi wrote:On February 17 2012 06:44 Hawk wrote:On February 17 2012 02:18 Tossim111 wrote:On February 16 2012 15:44 Jeremy Lin wrote:On February 16 2012 09:43 Jibba wrote:On February 16 2012 08:19 AntiGrav1ty wrote:On February 16 2012 06:22 Jibba wrote: Let me put it this way - I wouldn't want Kobe or Lebron or Durant taking that shot either. The whole "clutch"/"fearless" mythos in the NBA has been taken to epic proportions by Kobe and ESPN, and that 3 - no matter how much he was "feeling" it - was simply not his best option. There's pages devoted to "clutch" in the other threads.
I don't see how this was a bad shot at all. Calderon sagged off a lot to prevent the drive. Also he tried to Force Lin to his left which is considerably weaker. If goes for the drive o drive and does get denied he has to take a fadeaway jumper or some shot off the dribble which is considerably harder than a wide open 3. Or he risks a turnover be cause he got caught a couple of times in that game already and the Raptors help defense was pretty good in that game. The knicks got blocked a lot around the rim. So his options are: Drive to the left with possibility of not getting to the rim at all, getting denied at the rim by help defense, getting trapped by a double team, or passing it out with a risk for a turnover to some mediocre shooters. (Fields, Shumpert, Chandler and Amare are not known for clutch 3s). A lot of ifs Or He takes an open 3 You are criticizin Lins accomplishments in every single post you make but this one is just not valid. No, his primary option is going to the right because Calderon can't do anything on his own. He's likely getting the foul, but if he doesn't like the position of the interior defenders, he drives, steps back and shoots a regular jumpshot from the top of the key, which is one of his most common moves. When you have room, you get closer to the basket. This is just fundamentals. If it were in the middle of the game and Hubie Brown was casting, he'd go on a rant about it. People are being hysterical and emotional. Yo man I been checking what my fans have to say about me in this thread and I gotta say man what you got against me huh? I don't see you getting all anal about analysing Flash games and acting like some kind of arrogant devil's advocate armchair critic when the results speak for themselves. Why don't you put up some YouTube videos of your shots huh what you got nigga what you got? User was banned for this post. jibba u sound ridiculous, if ure given enough room u go for the shot. caulderon was obviously closing in for the drive. driving in is what lin probably wanted to do, but seeing as his opp. is giving him an open look for 3 he took it, easy decision. you dont stop to think about ur percentage especially when its closing seconds to the quarter edit: how can anyone be critical about something that happened SUCCESSFULLY? results speak for themselves How is there even a debate about this?? Game tied, you have the last possession. Jibba is absolutely right in this instance. He absolutely buried that shot, but praising that as the right move because it worked is like yanking a pot out from under a dude in poker by winning with a 2-10 vs AA and not recognizing how lucky it was. Would have been a much more sure thing to drive there, even if he nailed that. Run that same scenario over 100 times, and he'd get at least 1 or 2 from a foul or fg way more often than he would pulling up for a 3. I think it's arguable; it's certainly not as extreme as 2-10 vs. AA. The thing about getting fouled is that it would give Toronto more time to tie or win the game, especially if he misses a FT (almost 50% chance of that happening assuming 75% FT%). A 3 at the near last second basically puts the game away. Also, refs are generally reluctant to call that foul unless it's really obvious. I think it's arguable even without the 3 vs. 1 or 2. See my post above yours taking variance into account and assuming that only a game win has payoff of 1 and other outcomes have payoff 0 with respect to Lin/Knicks. It doesn't really matter if it's as extreme as 2-10 vs. AA. Both games share the property that you should bet on a 2-10 sometimes (or in mathspeak, call with nonzero probability). That somebody plays a 2-10 against an AA doesn't mean it was the wrong decision in a game of imperfect information, since you will have a strictly losing expectation in the game as a whole if you never play on a 2-10. Remember guys, Lin has a degree in economics at Harvard, so it is safe to assume he studied and fairly safe to assume that he thoroughly understands this kind of shit. It's not ex-post rationalization I'm making up here, but I'll be willing to bet he has actively considered these situations before he made the call based on this analysis as opposed to a panic move. Yes, you make a good point, though I'd say it's even arguable without the game theory considerations. Actually, I think the "even" applies to my statement as opposed to yours. It's more like "even ignoring the additional benefit of sinking a 3, it's still rationalizable." My statement is actually a stronger statement than yours since it has a weaker premise, hehehe.
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the three pointer was a good shot. all 5 players were expecting a drive, calderon would've forced him to go to the left and was heavily guarding it. the four other players would've immediately came into the lane to stop it.
lin with confidence sky high shot the wide open practice-like three pointer. any nba guard will make 3 pointers 9/10 times in practice, it's just about confidence. hell, just look at rondo during the three point challenge. lots of confidence and not too much pressure since it's tied made for a high percentage shot. no need for any fancy math.
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You guys honestly think someone with the personality of Lin, a devout christian, doesn't drink, comes from a small town and has a small time background, would date Kim Kardashian who got married twice and one lasted less than like 3 months, followed by her having a sex tape out, and is an utter socialite?
Stop reading tabloids lol
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On February 17 2012 08:20 Zlasher wrote: You guys honestly think someone with the personality of Lin, a devout christian, doesn't drink, comes from a small town and has a small time background, would date Kim Kardashian who got married twice and one lasted less than like 3 months, followed by her having a sex tape out, and is an utter socialite?
Stop reading tabloids lol
jeremy lin is obv trying to save her from impending doom
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Just because something is the best move doesn't necessarily mean its going to be successful.move either. In the end its about the W, so it doesn't matter if someone wins on 2-10 vs AA. If they're a fluke then they'll be exposed when you let time play its course.
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this was hilarious, from the new bill simmons mailbag
+ Show Spoiler +Q: This just hit me: If Stern doesn't veto the Lakers/Rockets/Hornets trade Jeremy Lin would still be a Rocket. Houston couldn't keep Lin because they already had 3 PG's with fully guaranteed contracts (Lowry, Dragic, Flynn). If the trade is allowed to go through, Lin would have been able to take Dragic's spot on the roster. Instead Stern vetoes the trade, and now Lin is singlehandedly saving the Knicks season, and keeping them out of the lottery. Oh ya, Houston owns New York's first rounder (top 5 protected). Is it possible Stern knew all this, and this was his actual reason for vetoing the trade? Also is this Stern's way of getting back at Houston for booing him after Game 7 of the NBA Finals? Let's be honest, the man isn't above grudges. — Adam Spolane, Houston
SG: I love when Daryl Morey writes me with the alias "Adam Spolane." And yeah, you're right — if the Gasol trade goes through and Houston follows that up by signing Nene (something the Rockets believe would have happened, even if the rest of the league is dubious), here's Houston's team right now: Kyle Lowry, Courtney Lee, Chandler Parsons, Nene and Pau Gasol (starters); Jeremy Lin, Marcus Morris, Patrick Patterson, Jordan Hill, Chase Budinger, Free Agent 2-Guard to Be Named (bench). Pretty interesting. Daryl will now light himself on fire.
(PS: Did you notice Houston was awarded the 2013 NBA All-Star Game last week? My buddy House is convinced that was Stern's way of apologizing for screwing the Rockets over. It's like Warden Norton letting Andy Dufresne shine his shoes right after he killed Andy's buddy who could have testified that Andy was innocent, and throwing Andy in the hole for two months for calling him "obtuse." Sorry about what happened, Houston — here, shine my shoes with the 2013 All-Star Game!)
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On February 17 2012 11:48 tiffany wrote:this was hilarious, from the new bill simmons mailbag + Show Spoiler +Q: This just hit me: If Stern doesn't veto the Lakers/Rockets/Hornets trade Jeremy Lin would still be a Rocket. Houston couldn't keep Lin because they already had 3 PG's with fully guaranteed contracts (Lowry, Dragic, Flynn). If the trade is allowed to go through, Lin would have been able to take Dragic's spot on the roster. Instead Stern vetoes the trade, and now Lin is singlehandedly saving the Knicks season, and keeping them out of the lottery. Oh ya, Houston owns New York's first rounder (top 5 protected). Is it possible Stern knew all this, and this was his actual reason for vetoing the trade? Also is this Stern's way of getting back at Houston for booing him after Game 7 of the NBA Finals? Let's be honest, the man isn't above grudges. — Adam Spolane, Houston
SG: I love when Daryl Morey writes me with the alias "Adam Spolane." And yeah, you're right — if the Gasol trade goes through and Houston follows that up by signing Nene (something the Rockets believe would have happened, even if the rest of the league is dubious), here's Houston's team right now: Kyle Lowry, Courtney Lee, Chandler Parsons, Nene and Pau Gasol (starters); Jeremy Lin, Marcus Morris, Patrick Patterson, Jordan Hill, Chase Budinger, Free Agent 2-Guard to Be Named (bench). Pretty interesting. Daryl will now light himself on fire.
(PS: Did you notice Houston was awarded the 2013 NBA All-Star Game last week? My buddy House is convinced that was Stern's way of apologizing for screwing the Rockets over. It's like Warden Norton letting Andy Dufresne shine his shoes right after he killed Andy's buddy who could have testified that Andy was innocent, and throwing Andy in the hole for two months for calling him "obtuse." Sorry about what happened, Houston — here, shine my shoes with the 2013 All-Star Game!)
hahah bill simmons is actually one writer that i respect. He's good!
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