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Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 21 2009 05:55 GMT
#40
sign me up

i play mafia all the time but I always miss the TL games
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 15:32:34
February 28 2009 15:29 GMT
#218
On February 28 2009 22:55 LTT wrote:From there, everyone needs to PM the veteran their roles.

I was with you until this. Is it really legal for town members to claim in private to eachother? You'll probably think I'm maf for saying this, but that's incredibly lame and allows for a scenario such as the one you described where it's very difficult for the mafia to win.

This is my first mafia game with TL, so I'm more than willing to play by whatever style you guys are accustomed to, but in every other mafia game I've played, the only townies allowed to communicate in private amongst eachother are masons, and that's a specialized gametype.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 28 2009 15:41 GMT
#222
On March 01 2009 00:32 BWdero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 00:29 Dyno. wrote:
On February 28 2009 22:55 LTT wrote:From there, everyone needs to PM the veteran their roles.

I was with you until this. Is it really legal for town members to claim in private to eachother? You'll probably think I'm maf for saying this, but that's incredibly lame and allows for a scenario such as the one you described where it's very difficult for the mafia to win.


It is very much legal. It's how town won in game 2. And since I was mafia in game 2 i can tell you that is indeed very hard to win against and thus very beneficial to town if we can pull it off.

My point is it's too beneficial. It's beneficial to the point that it's ridiculously imbalanced for town.

Yes, mafia could fakeclaim, but not very easily. It would be impossible to fakeclaim as a veteran, since with LTT's plan they would all be verified, so that's already a bunch of guaranteed town. They could try fakeclaiming as a paramedic, but as soon as someone died that they were supposed to protect, it would be suspicious. Of course they could choose not to kill that target, so as not to arouse suspicion, but it would further shorten their list of viable targets. They could fake claim private eye, but even that could be outed by having the main veteran tell them to investigate someone they know is a veteran, and seeing if they correctly identify them.

I'll do whatever is necessary (and legal) to win, I just think it's pointless when the game is virtually solved from the beginning. It takes the point out of the game, which is trying to read people and determine how sincere they are. Of course, there will always be an element of puzzle-solving, as there should be, but when it's 100% out of the hands of either team, that's a bit ridiculous.

Sorry, I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. I just wanted to voice my concern, and this will be the last post you see me doing it from here on.

It is a very well thought out plan, LTT. Kudos for that.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 28 2009 15:46 GMT
#223
Why would you be against this at all? Shady, man. Very shady.

I'm against it because I'm in favor of a fun, fair game.

Think what you will. I'm not mafia.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 28 2009 15:50 GMT
#227
Screw it. I'm a veteran.

Paramedics please protect me. Other veterans, do not use your extra vote today.

I will use my extra vote today to verify I am indeed a veteran.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 28 2009 15:51 GMT
#230
If people want to start PMing me your roles now, you can, but it would be an unwise decision since you don't know for sure that I'm a vet yet.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-28 16:02:25
February 28 2009 15:53 GMT
#232
Both votes can be (must be?) on the same person, correct?

If that's the case, I cast my vote (and my extra vote) on blue_arrow.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 28 2009 16:03 GMT
#242
I'd like to once again remind our paramedics to please protect me tonight. I will be without my extra life, and it's imperative that I stay alive for this plan to work.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 28 2009 16:07 GMT
#245
Blue_arrow is mostly an arbitrary vote. However, as mentioned in a post shortly after the day 1 post, the "sharp person" is most likely a clue, and arrows are certainly sharp. It's not much to go off of, but it's more than anyone else.

I saw the idea that maybe the "some that looked like they had been incarcerated for past crimes" line may be a clue, but I think that was just flavor text. I don't think he would give us such a huge clue as that.

It's a moot point anyway since he won't be lynched.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
February 28 2009 16:18 GMT
#253
On March 01 2009 01:11 LTT wrote:
Dyno, can you confirm in this thread that you sent a PM to Chuiu regarding your vote? You are probably a veteran, but if not I don't want you to have the excuse that "I didn't know I had to PM Chuiu".

yes, it's already sent
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 03:02 GMT
#428
On March 01 2009 09:54 JeeJee wrote:
has dyno said anything to anyone for a while
it would suck if he's inactive =-=

The last time I posted was only 12 hours ago. I do sleep, and I do have a job.

I'll be doing my best to keep up with everything, but you guys need to understand you've placed a lot of responsibility on me. I'm up to the task, but I'm not going to be able to read this thread nonstop every day. In fact, it would be very helpful if someone could provide occasional summaries of all significant activity.

That said, I've read every page I've missed so far.

[image loading]


Ugh, here we go...
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 03:03:56
March 01 2009 03:03 GMT
#429
I change my vote to inertinept and vote for veteran sanctuary.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 03:15 GMT
#430
Also, paramedics, if vet sanctuary passes, do not use your ability tonight. Save it for tomorrow night.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-01 04:23:45
March 01 2009 04:18 GMT
#438
If your name is not on the following list, you need to PM me and tell me if you're a townie or a power role (and which role).

LTT
TruthBringer
Caller
nemY
ydg
dreamflower
Monoxide
bwdero
fusionsdf
LucasWoJ
Amber[LighT]
ahswtini
Mandalor
3 Lions
Scooter
redtooth
JeeJee
Trezeguet23
zeks
Icysoul
TranceStorm
iNfuNdiBuLuM
bumatlarge
3clipse
JL13
ChaosBringer
IloveKTF
Qatol
Bockit
LaXerCannon
Humbug
Rice
LordWeird
Tensai176
blue_arrow
Scaramanga
Naib
Malongo
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 04:29 GMT
#441
On March 01 2009 13:26 Scaramanga wrote:
I did pm you

If your name is _not_ on the list.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 05:34 GMT
#459
On March 01 2009 14:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 13:53 LTT wrote:
More interesting list-

The following have posted in the thread since Dyno was confirmed but have not sent their roles. Can't claim inactivity here. Many of them even voted.

Night[Mare
inertinept - lolconfession
triflejack
d_so
Teejing
aZnvaLiaNce
Ra.Xor.2
Pyrrhuloxia
HeRoS)Pink
pandabearguy

Yeesh. Have Dyno. recheck his PMs and check them for timestamp as well because everyone is getting suspicious of me because of this mistake of yours.
I role claimed at 3/1 8:12 and after reading this hubbub I roleclaimed again at 13:48. I sent both PMs to Dyno. with a period at the end.

Edited for too much caps.

You have indeed PM'd me. I accidentally left you off the list because you sent a lot of PMs and got sidetracked reading them.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 11:46 GMT
#509
Other veterans: Please do not remove your extra vote from the person I've assigned to you. We still have unconfirmed veterans, and in order to avoid confusion I'd like everyone to stay on the person I assigned them until the final tally.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 11:50 GMT
#511
I have received PMs from the following people:

LTT
TruthBringer
Caller
nemY
bwdero
triflejack
fusionsdf
Bockit
Rice
ahswtini
Mandalor
Scooter
3 Lions
redtooth
LordWeird
pandabearguy
Ra.Xor.2
aZnvaLiaNce
Humbug
Trezeguet23
blue_arrow
ydg
dreamflower
LucasWoJ
d_so
Amber[LighT]
JeeJee
zeks
Icysoul
TranceStorm
iNfuNdiBuLuM
bumatlarge3clipse
JL13
ChaosBringer
IloveKTF
Qatol
CynanMachae
Tensai176
Scaramanga
LaXerCannon
Teejing
RebirthofLegend
Night[Mare
Monoxide
Naib
MasterOfChaos
Malongo

I'm still missing roles from 13 people. If your name is not on this list, I still need your PM.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 01 2009 12:42 GMT
#514
I'm going to sleep now, and I work a 9 hour shift tomorrow. I won't be home until around 8:30 PST.
Dyno.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States286 Posts
March 02 2009 05:00 GMT
#564
I just got home, but I'm going back out with some friends (sorry not letting an internet game of mafia interfere with my social life). I have a bunch of PMs that I'll read when I get back.

Everyone that has a significant action to play tonight has already received their instructions from me.
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