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How to keep minerals low in zvt?

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tdotkrayz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States136 Posts
January 30 2009 05:32 GMT
#1
I can macro like a beast in zvp and keep both my minerals and gas low. But I just can't figure out how to keep my minerals low in zvt. I know I should throw down some hatches if I use up all my larva constantly and still have an excess of minerals but I never see the pros do it. Everytime I go 3 hatch mutas, I always have like 1200 minerals and 900 gas by the time my spire is complete. This is even after I throw down a hatchery at my expansion!! Maybe it's because I power too many drones? (But Chill told me to do that in his fpvods!!!!!) I can't can't for the life of me figure out how the pros manage to keep their minerals so low in zvt. I tried my best to macro, but even if I use up all my larva on lings and overlords, I still get more minerals than I can use. Should I just throw down some extra hatcheries and act like it's a zvp? Help please.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 30 2009 05:38 GMT
#2
Now you're just trolling.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 30 2009 05:39 GMT
#3
Its because you have a bad build order, or you dont adapt. Also, your units will be more gas intensive than in a zvp, so try to compensate for that.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
January 30 2009 05:39 GMT
#4
bh bh bh bh
hoorah
tdotkrayz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States136 Posts
January 30 2009 05:40 GMT
#5
On January 30 2009 14:39 stanley_ wrote:
bh bh bh bh


That's what I was thinking too! But then why don't pros and top foreigners do that?
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 30 2009 05:45 GMT
#6
This discussion has advanced to levels way over my own.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-30 05:55:37
January 30 2009 05:48 GMT
#7
dude stop making threads plz

Edit: Then can't we have a 'help tdotkrayz' thread?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
tdotkrayz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States136 Posts
January 30 2009 05:53 GMT
#8
On January 30 2009 14:48 Fontong wrote:
dude stop making threads plz


Dude, I know I make lots of shitty threads but I'm just trying to get advice from the experts. Sorry if my posts aren't up to standards but hey, I'm still learning.
stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
January 30 2009 05:57 GMT
#9
On January 30 2009 14:40 tdotkrayz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2009 14:39 stanley_ wrote:
bh bh bh bh


That's what I was thinking too! But then why don't pros and top foreigners do that?


Top pros do do that. July for one has done it before. Just make sure you have the economy to support it and that you are not over extending yourself.
hoorah
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