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blue_arrow
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I have a question and a poll for you guys; it's a discussion that I had in class today, and I was wondering what opinions others might have on this topic: Were the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki justified? Poll: Were the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki justified? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No Please, please, please provide your reasoning, whether it be objective or subjective... | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
The job of the American Government is to protect American lives at any cost. We did exactly that. | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On November 02 2008 14:40 Jibba wrote: Oh lord... lolz yes, please uh, try, to keep the flames to a minimum | ||
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Empyrean
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
there has been some controversy over the fact that there may have been evidence that Japan would've surrendered before the end of 1945, even if the bombs were not dropped. | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
A bomb thrown at fucking civilians??, it was inhumane and its amazing its not classified in history as an horrible crime against humanity like the holocaust was. It wasnt dropped on a military base or something of that sort, it was dropped in the middle of a city full of civlians, women and children being burned alive while they were having a family meal wtf. ![[image loading]](http://www.lewrockwell.com/latulippe/fm_victim.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.warchat.org/pictures/hiroshima_and_nagasaki_victims_nuclear_bombing.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.japanfocus.org/images/UserFiles/Image/2642.kuznick.tibbets.abomb/hiroshima_afterbomb.jpg) | ||
MrHoon
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
Estimates were between 500,000-1,200,000 allied dead if Japan was invaded. Around 220,000 Japanese died in the bombings, then several thousand more from radiation. I just have some quick wiki'ing to go on, but it appears that the "numbers" are at least straight-forward. More people would have died if Japan was invaded instead of bombed. Obviously peace/negotiations of some kind would have saved the most lives... | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On November 02 2008 14:47 baal wrote: Only a fucking ignorant heartless redneck would think so. A bomb thrown at fucking civilians??, it was inhumane and its amazing its not classified in history as an horrible crime against humanity like the holocaust was. It wasnt dropped on a military base or something of that sort, it was dropped in the middle of a city full of civlians, women and children being burned alive while they were having a family meal wtf. lol and pearl harbor never happened. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
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baal
10708 Posts
Japan is a fucking island, it lost all his naval capacity, its allies were defeated, surrender was matter of time, are you stupid faggots so naive to think they needed 2 cities evaporated to surrender? There is a reason why nuclear weapons are banned dont you think? | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
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yutgoyun
Canada46 Posts
Given the opinion, sentiment, and analysis *at the time and before the bombings*, it is understandable why the bombs were dropped; total war was already in effect (other bombings like Dresden are often cited) and atom bombs were "merely" a step up; Okinawa occurred recently and gave the idea that it would be a long bloody fight to invade Japan. That said, most analysis *after the fact* shows the bombs were unnecessary from a military standpoint: http://www.doug-long.com/quotes.htm So from that...was it justified? Yes. Was it necessary? No. Another popular study question to ask is whether the second bomb was necessary...and was it meant for Russia? | ||
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baal
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On November 02 2008 14:51 intrigue wrote: does # of lives saved correlate with how justified something is there's certainly a correlation from certain perspectives so yeah... it depends on how you see it | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
On November 02 2008 14:54 blue_arrow wrote: there's certainly a correlation from certain perspectives so yeah... it depends on how you see it So to save the lives of 10 soldiers, u would let a child burn to death by radiation, its justified right? And im even giving the most ridiculous of benefits by saying "it saved lives" cuz it fucking didnt, but lets focus on the other part. | ||
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