I remember that chuiu altered that rule, mafia used to be able to do so but are now disallowed to do so.
Also checking in to say hi I'm active, don't have any plans for now but I just read up on everything and support ace's plan from what I read about it.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 03 2008 18:48 GMT

#703

I vote for Ace
Whilst I do believe he is mafia, the main reason for this vote is to try and save Folca. A point was raised that if he was a detective he should've gathered more information, but perhaps he made a misjudgement in this area. Making a strategical blunder =/= being mafia. I don't think we have anything to lose from allowing Folca to stay alive another day, whilst we have a lot to gain; if Folca turns out to be blue and mafia doesn't kill him, he can rolecheck another player before we lynch him which would be of immeasurable value, since we might get 2 mafia with 1 detective that way.

If he's mafia, he won't get killed at night and we can lynch him tomorrow resulting in basically the exact same situation as today, but more information to work with. I don't see the benefit in killing Folca when if he's a detective, mafia will have to kill him tonight anyway (and if they don't we can lynch him the day after with more information), and if he IS mafia we'll kill him the next day anyway since the kill count of the mafia wouldn't go down anyway. I might change my vote later if I could save Folca that way.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 04 2008 02:03 GMT

#772

Few situations:
Ace Red -> dies: Means Folca is probably a detective, might or might not survive till day 2 to put down a list. If the Mafia don't kill him on night 2, this would be a very interesting situation.
Ace Blue -> dies: Not good. Kill Folca, obviously.
Ace Green -> dies: Repeat

Folca Red -> dies: Means Ace is probably clear of any charges. Might or might not survive till day 2 which would be irrelevant if Ace has no specific role, and he would die pretty soon if he isn't mafia as well.
Folca Blue -> dies: Not good. Kill Ace, obviously.
Folca Green -> dies: wtf.

The fact that Folca roleclaimed and said that he's a detective drastically reduces the chance of him being green. It means he's basically either a detective or mafia. Ace doesn't have this luxury, as there's a much bigger likeliness that Ace is green, statistically, then a detective. Since Folca can contribute more with his powers if he indeed is a detective then Ace could if he's green, coupled with the fact that Folca was willing to lynch himself at first (though this might've been part of the plan to sway votes, but I'm not completely convinced by that), I vote for Ace as I have already stated earlier.

It will be a shame if Ace dies and is green, but let's face it: If Folca is mafia and gets lynched, it won't be long before the mafia kill Ace either. Statistically in terms of information the town can get, it would be a better idea to lynch Ace then Folca.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 04 2008 11:50 GMT

#908

God damnit I knew it T_T

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 04 2008 12:05 GMT

#910

He finally admits it!

(Couldn't wait till tomorrow since I'm leaving for WCG then)

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 04 2008 15:11 GMT

#928

Disregard anything Ace said after Folca got lynched. Analyse anything he said before that.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 04 2008 15:12 GMT

#929

On November 05 2008 00:10 Chuiu wrote:
Everyone who lives in the US better vote today. And just remember who the blues (Obama) are and who the reds (McCain) are.

You forgot Nader.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 07 2008 11:45 GMT

#1288

## I vote for decafchicken

Currently at WCG, so I don't have much time.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 09 2008 17:08 GMT

#1445

Just got home from WCG: I see we have a list on decaf on which 2/5 people are mafia? Good news, except for me being on the list

. Still feel a bit ill though and I'll try to contribute something to the thread tomorrow.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 09 2008 23:10 GMT

#1462

Guys, with this list:
ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler

We have 2 mafia, so I suggest we split this list up in a group of 2 and of 3 and allow the DT to check both lists. If a detective has used all his rolechecks already, he should share his information with anyone that he found as innocent so that if a detective dies somehow, that person gets confirmation that the information is correct.

Perhaps that could be sped up if the group of 2 turns out to contain 2 mafia though, since offering a DT for 2 mafia seems like a good thing, especially since there are only 7 left. Hm.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 09 2008 23:12 GMT

#1464

Additionally, if a Detective claims to have found two mafia on a specific list, allow him to live for a night (or perhaps even two) to force mafia to kill him or we'll gain even more information when we eventually decide to lynch him.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 09 2008 23:14 GMT

#1465

Third option would actually be lynching one of the two people that the "detective" said were mafia. If he turns up green/blue, we get a free mafia after that.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 10 2008 11:40 GMT

#1558

As requested by town (and I hope ZBiR does the same), I ##Vote for imDerek.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 10 2008 18:01 GMT

#1564

Can I vote for Chuiu?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

November 12 2008 11:19 GMT

#1656

I suggest we lynch one of the 3 people from the list that didn't vote for a specific person. If Bloodycobbler or I are mafia, a detective will speak up soon enough. This means that from the 3 people left on the list, 2 are likely mafia, giving us a success rate of 67%.