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MrRammstein
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland339 Posts
June 29 2008 12:47 GMT
#1
If Blizzard keeps at least MBS in do you think we will see old veterans like Boxer becoming new top greatest?

Garimto that currently commentates GomTV often says (AFAIK) current Protoss players play not as good as they could... I think he means micro, like pulling back in PvT in time before Siege Tanks eat Goons... do you think he could come back or stay with commentating?
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
June 29 2008 17:13 GMT
#2
youre a few months behind
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 29 2008 17:23 GMT
#3
wait what months behind what?
Don't post mysterious 1 liners it irks me greatly. If you say somethign like that at least explain.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 29 2008 17:30 GMT
#4
Garimto tried to come back in SC already but retired again.

I think that was his point.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 17:31:09
June 29 2008 17:30 GMT
#5
On June 30 2008 02:30 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Garimto tried to come back in SC already but retired again.

I think that was his point.

I thought bout it but his OP made me think that Garimto got back into commentating.
And if no where/what is he doing now?
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 29 2008 17:39 GMT
#6
I dunno if he's commentating.

I don't know if he, and others from the earlier generations of pros, will/can come out on top in the early stages of SC2. Maybe.

But if they do, I don't think it's because of MBS/the lack of MBS but because of their talent/intelligence/experience and just their affinity for RTS games in general.

I don't really see this topic going anywhere but will leave it up a while to see if it does.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
MrRammstein
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland339 Posts
June 29 2008 17:57 GMT
#7
Isn't Garimto GomTV commentator sitting currently on the left part of the screen, right earlier?

I mean guys like him and Boxer got rusty over the years (or army duty).
If MBS is considered lowering skill overall would they start playing SC2 competitively, especially when 1st pro leagues will be created (like day of release at the latest imo ;P)?
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Fantabulous[Fab]
Profile Joined June 2008
United States21 Posts
June 29 2008 18:00 GMT
#8
Mantoss comeback
praetor.at
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Austria92 Posts
June 29 2008 18:03 GMT
#9
with macro being eased, creative micro-type players will be at an advantage, especially in the beginning. gogo boxer.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-29 18:11:29
June 29 2008 18:06 GMT
#10
On June 30 2008 03:03 praetor.at wrote:
with macro being eased, creative micro-type players will be at an advantage, especially in the beginning. gogo boxer.

Hear hear.
Show those blind mechanics what you're made of!!

2 years later:
Ex-Progammer Garimto becomes the richest man selling D3 golds with 100 operating gold grinding PCbangs in S.Korea
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
nimysa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States383 Posts
June 29 2008 18:08 GMT
#11
MBS will not be in Starcraft 2, if starcraft 2 has no macro aspect then Starcraft 2 will not boom in the South Korea. This isn't warcraft crap, for all the new warcrafters coming here, go back to the stupid hell hole you came from.
MrRammstein
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland339 Posts
June 29 2008 18:14 GMT
#12
On June 30 2008 03:08 nimysa wrote:
MBS will not be in Starcraft 2, if starcraft 2 has no macro aspect then Starcraft 2 will not boom in the South Korea. This isn't warcraft crap, for all the new warcrafters coming here, go back to the stupid hell hole you came from.

I don't want to make this into another MBS debate please, this is a question what will happen if they keep it... it's just there are no signs Blizz will remove it but whole bunch they try to compensate for it
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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5446 Posts
June 29 2008 18:22 GMT
#13
On June 30 2008 03:08 nimysa wrote:
MBS will not be in Starcraft 2, if starcraft 2 has no macro aspect then Starcraft 2 will not boom in the South Korea. This isn't warcraft crap, for all the new warcrafters coming here, go back to the stupid hell hole you came from.


"Joined TL.net: Friday, 14th of March 2008"

And where did YOU come from?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 29 2008 18:23 GMT
#14
On June 30 2008 03:08 nimysa wrote:
MBS will not be in Starcraft 2, if starcraft 2 has no macro aspect then Starcraft 2 will not boom in the South Korea. This isn't warcraft crap, for all the new warcrafters coming here, go back to the stupid hell hole you came from.

We'll be sharing SC2 with those warcrafters so I'd prefer it if you didn't needlessly insult them.

Translation: Shut up and get back on topic!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 29 2008 19:14 GMT
#15
On June 30 2008 03:03 praetor.at wrote:
with macro being eased, creative micro-type players will be at an advantage, especially in the beginning. gogo boxer.

I doubt it, The only thing that really holds macro down is just the fact that the game has not been figured out as much. Once people figure out correct play styles, maps, and unit combos when/where etc. then the micro players start to lose.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Alizee-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States845 Posts
June 29 2008 20:31 GMT
#16
I've said it before and I'll say it again rA and boxer will do really well and I don't forsee any of the macro eliminators being removed, they'll beat around the bush but they wanna make the game more modern. This is holding true with what I'm reading about the state of the game atm as well.
Strength behind the Pride
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
June 29 2008 21:15 GMT
#17
GIYOM FOR FIRST OSL!!!!!!
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-05 17:07:25
June 29 2008 21:44 GMT
#18
JINNNNNNNNNNN HOOOOOOOOOoo

Seriously, I think none of the old progamers will come back, there just isn't any sparks and motivation left.

But if there is one, I hope it's the numbah two
Gör om, gör rätt
Alizee-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States845 Posts
June 29 2008 22:29 GMT
#19
How can you say that? SC2 is a different game with a whole next expanded community, you can't decide whether they find the spark again or the motivation, that's inside them. Corny or not its true.
Strength behind the Pride
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
June 29 2008 22:38 GMT
#20
I think some old schoolers might make an attempt with SC2, but I don't see them succeding, at least most of them. Actually, I'm thinking that there will be a recycle of progaming figures, and that eventually it will be 50% current SC bigtime pros and 50% newcomers, until those 50% fade away and it's only new SC2 born players.
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