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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 12 2008 19:26 GMT
#1
Point of Emphasis: Thanks to Yenta for this blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=69407

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TSL game I think lowely played bad/dumb personally.. losing entire army to bottom right choke for a young expansion? Dumb dumb dumb. Draco also looks good.. but not anywhere near where he was which is kinda scary considering how well he has done so far...
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
April 12 2008 20:09 GMT
#2
WOW GG
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
April 12 2008 20:28 GMT
#3
Lowely was stupid as hell I think. He had like 1.2k in the bank and just piled it up, without really using it on anything midgame. Could've expoed some more too.

O yeah, that attack at bottom right...SO annoying to watch all those ultras just get smacked by 1 archon/cannons and a handful of zeals WTF.

Draco played great to his situations though.
:D
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
April 12 2008 22:22 GMT
#4
Actually draco plays so dumb. I'm not saying he's bad but he doesn't really do anything besides massing ground basic units. If he made reavers or cors/dt faster when he had the opportunity he wouldn't have risked to lose the game =x
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 13 2008 00:50 GMT
#5
i dont think its fair to say that not making reavers or sairs eariler is dumb...he played fine but it definately lacked from where he was around his pro gaming time.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-13 01:17:15
April 13 2008 00:56 GMT
#6
Well everytime I see him play he basically just masses the same units in the same amount, and from my point of view he doesn't put any thought into it besides the ground army composition. The fact his execution is flawless makes him the player he is, though if he had a little more strategy he would probably have been successful in korea.
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amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
April 13 2008 06:37 GMT
#7
agree with cloud
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
April 13 2008 09:22 GMT
#8
bad decision making by lowely, solid play by draco.
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
April 13 2008 09:51 GMT
#9
Don't expect much from Draco before final stage of TSL, especially when it comes to strategies/tactics. He wants to have a card up his sleeve when it comes to serious challenge.
Right now he is just practicing micro/macro/timing and exploring new maps. And Draco surely does know how to play reavers/dt/cors. ClouD, not many protosses play reavers/dt/cors as often as you for one simple reason - it's risky. Moment of carelessness and all your shuttles are gone. Corsairs fly right on hydras and GG. But don't worry, you'll see the real Draco in the finals, I'm sure about that ;>
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JackDanniels
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland10 Posts
April 13 2008 10:02 GMT
#10
I think Draco can play much better I like gosu storms by him
Lovely bad strategy...
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
April 13 2008 10:31 GMT
#11
I kinda agree with Cloud also. Draco is and will be one of my favorite non-kor players, he was very dominant when I got into Starcraft, and I developed and authentic admiration for the guy. And when he showed the ambition to go to Korea, I reached a stage of semi-worshiping the man

HOWEVER

He did not seemed like the innovative player. Besides cool micro/tactical tricks, he never actually showed imagination in terms of strategy, and this can partially be attributed imo to the fact that his mechanics/execution was always ahead of his strategy understanding. That is why I believe players like Testie or Mondragon had such a good record vs. him (and least before he returned from Korea), because of their superior understanding of the game. His execution and mechanics, on the other hand, where the best around his prime, the best compared to other foreigners, I mean - and so was his timing, as a direct consequence, that's why he was winning most of the times.

No to bash him or anything, I truly respect and like Mr. Nalepka, and I was merely making an (probably biased) analysis. As for his current play, I'm sure he is keeping his best moves for the finals, so as it has been said, don't be too quick to judge him.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
April 13 2008 10:33 GMT
#12
Also don't forget the guys is coming back from a period of relative inactivity, so he is actually improving by each game he currently plays to reach his former skill
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
April 13 2008 10:43 GMT
#13
Really nice game.

I was really impressed with draco's micro, it was pretty sick to watch. Late game was nice as well.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
April 13 2008 10:47 GMT
#14
Draco was really behind too due to the massive amounts of cannons he made :|
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alphablend
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
647 Posts
April 13 2008 11:15 GMT
#15
On April 13 2008 09:56 iG.ClouD wrote:
Well everytime I see him play he basically just masses the same units in the same amount, and from my point of view he doesn't put any thought into it besides the ground army composition. The fact his execution is flawless makes him the player he is, though if he had a little more strategy he would probably have been successful in korea.


Too bad thats all you need with protoss, nothing stops protoss, not even zerg.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 13 2008 13:46 GMT
#16
Yes, P imba whiners! Finally!
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
April 13 2008 14:00 GMT
#17
happy bday lulzman
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
April 14 2008 06:06 GMT
#18
When Draco played in the Cracov LAN he pretty much raped the shit out of the the only real competition he had there (kogeT) with sair/dt during his first ever game on baekmagoji. He's just toying around in the ladder.
Tangsta
Profile Joined November 2007
Australia68 Posts
April 14 2008 07:26 GMT
#19
ugh what version should i run this replay on, because the latest version and v1.14 really screws it up
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
April 14 2008 12:34 GMT
#20
even tho they can play both much better - this is one of the most entertaining games i saw this year
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