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idra vs wave2

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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 15 2008 23:03 GMT
#1
Point of Emphasis: Ask and yee shall receive. IdrA has been kind enough to share a couple reps with me and has said he will continue to do so. Hes training with koreans to get ready for his invasion of korea. Please join me in supporting him by grabbing pom poms and skirts and organizing cheers for our newest non korean rep in korea!

oh and this game is rad too

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Again we see our recent favorite korean z using defilers in 9 minutes after some powerful muta harrasss... not enough to stop the white hope however!
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
February 15 2008 23:17 GMT
#2
is wave that paul guy?
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
February 16 2008 02:14 GMT
#3
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Idra's such an absurdly good player.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 16 2008 04:36 GMT
#4
idra looked like he had some trouble keeping up with his money going up and forgetting to upgrade marines, but he played nice smart contain tvz. I really like his 2 rax tech tvz build, super early tank and vessel safe vs pretty much everything if your marines don't die to muta harass.
1t2t3t4t5taw
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Andorra173 Posts
February 16 2008 11:02 GMT
#5
Idra played well but he stopped upgrading at 2/1

Also, is it for sure that this zerg is the same one as in the other replays? Cause he seems a HELL of a lot better in those replays than in this one, even though this is a good game
afadf
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
February 16 2008 14:47 GMT
#6
Difference with idra and the Korean terrans is that the Korean terrans were handling it poorly by constantly attacking. Idra just took the other part of the map which is a perfect strategy against turtling zergs like that. That's why the zerg looked weaker because he definitely played as skillful as in those other games. Idra just had 7 bases and a buttload of factories/barracks and was just totally outmacroing him.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 16 2008 18:17 GMT
#7
yea lots of korean terrans play really dumb tvz and wins only because they micro better and reinforce faster than zergs, only the few top amateur terrans ive seen in replays know how to come back from behind, take up the map, expo, take up space in general, others just attack with less resources until they're dead. Like that hobbang guy
1t2t3t4t5taw
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Andorra173 Posts
February 16 2008 20:39 GMT
#8
Yea I guess so, I think that one thing that affected the zerg was that he had 3 bases with 9 mineral patches each but for 10 minutes he had literally 1 drone at one of them, 3 at the other, and then like 45 at the 3rd. Later he swapped it to about 20/20 but he still left only 1 drone mining minerals at his nat for the entire game. That woulda given him a lot more income if he had just put 5 of the drones from each of the other mining bases on his nat.
afadf
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-17 14:09:01
February 17 2008 14:08 GMT
#9
On February 16 2008 23:47 Twisted wrote:
Difference with idra and the Korean terrans is that the Korean terrans were handling it poorly by constantly attacking. Idra just took the other part of the map which is a perfect strategy against turtling zergs like that. That's why the zerg looked weaker because he definitely played as skillful as in those other games. Idra just had 7 bases and a buttload of factories/barracks and was just totally outmacroing him.


He wasn't really outmacroing him with units though since had so little production facilites. I mean his macro TvZ, especially building units is somewhat flawed and he should work on not let his money go up so much all the time.
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BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
February 18 2008 23:41 GMT
#10
Pretty nice game by Idra, although I think he could/should have added 3 or 4 more barracks. Pretty crazy macro though. O_O
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