Statistics of Best Players in Each Match Up

boghat

United States2109 Posts

July 29 2007 11:55 GMT

Using the awesome new Team Liquid Progaming Database I was able to compile rankings of the best players in all nine of the game's match ups: PvT, PvZ, PvP, TvP, TvZ, TvT, ZvP, ZvT, ZvZ. I also put together some other stats based on those rankings and made the ranking of the players with the highest overall winning percentage clearer.

The criteria for the ranking was simply that you needed at least 20 games in the respective match up to be on the list. I have compiled every player with at least a 50% winning percentage with 20+ games for all 9 match ups. If you see any mistakes or if I forgot someone somewhere then please let me know. Anyway, here are the stats:

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Protoss:
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==PvT==

1. Stork - 48-27 (64.00%)

2. Nal_rA - 82-52 (61.19%)

3. Bisu - 25-17 (59.52%)

4. Much[gm] - 22-16 (57.89%)
5. Reach - 74-55 (57.36%)
6. Tester[gm] - 12-9 (57.14%)
7. fOru - 52-43 (54.74%)
8. TheRocK - 35-29 (54.69%)
9. Kingdom - 59-50 (54.13%)
10. Zeus - 54-49 (52.43%)
11. TerAtO - 22-20 (52.38%)
12. free[gm] - 14-13 (51.85%)
13. Pusan - 39-39 (50.00%)

==PvZ==

1. Bisu - 23-11 (67.65%)

2. free[gm] - 18-11 (62.07%)

3. Garimto - 15-12 (55.56%)

4. Nal_rA - 58-50 (53.70%)
5. Kingdom - 39-37 (51.32%)
6. Anytime - 29-28 (50.88%)
7. Grrrr... - 15-15 (50.00%)
7. Pusan - 31-31 (50.00%)
7. TT - 14-14 (50.00%)

==PvP==

1. Pusan - 23-9 (71.88%)

2. Stork - 31-17 (64.58%)

3. Nal_rA - 49-31 (61.25%)

4. Reach - 37-25 (59.68%)
5. Bisu - 14-10 (58.33%)
6. free[gm] - 11-9 (55.00%)
7. Anytime - 28-23 (54.90%)
8. Kingdom - 31-27 (53.45%)
9. IntoTheRainbOw - 16-15 (51.61%)

Terran:
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==TvP==

1. Sea[Shield] - 25-12 (67.57%)

2. Oddysay - 23-12 (65.71%)

3. Midas - 44-23 (65.67%)

4. ChRh - 21-11 (65.63%)
5. iloveoov - 62-39 (61.39%)
6. NaDa - 91-61 (59.87%)
7. Iris - 27-19 (58.70%)
8. XellOs - 52-40 (56.52%)
9. GoodFrienD - 34-30 (53.13%)
10. Hwasin - 13-13 (50.00%)

==TvZ==

1. iloveoov - 74-35 (67.89%)

2. BoxeR - 110-56 (66.27%) Midas - 55-28 (66.27%)

4. Hwasin - 41-21 (66.13%)
5. NaDa - 135-76 (63.98%)
6. Sea[Shield] - 34-20 (62.96%)
7. XellOs - 98-60 (62.03%)
8. firebathero - 13-8 (61.90%)
9. Light - 18-12 (60.00%)
10. Casy - 41-28 (59.42%)
11. Silent_Control - 43-30 (58.90%)
12. GoodFriend - 57-42 (57.58%)
13. Canata - 11-9 (55.00%)
14. ElkY - 19-16 (54.29%)
15. kOs - 25-22 (53.19%)
16. V-Gundam - 25-23 (52.08%)
17. [Oops]Lee - 26-24 (52.00%)
18. ClouD - 27-25 (51.92%)
19. Sync - 58-54 (51.79%)
20. Iris - 37-36 (50.68%)

==TvT==

1. Iris - 40-22 (64.52%)

2. Sea[Shield] - 20-12 (62.50%)

3. firebathero - 20-13 (60.61%)

4. NaDa - 97-65 (59.88%)
5. Midas - 56-39 (58.95%)
6. iloveoov - 77-54 (58.78%)
7. Hery - 14-10 (58.33%)
8. XellOs - 69-53 (56.56%)
9. Oddysay - 19-15 (55.88%)
10. GooDFriend - 53-46 (53.54%)
11. BoxeR - 61-53 (53.51%)
12. Casy - 41-38 (51.90%)

Zerg:
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==ZvP==

1.
sAviOr - 43-16 (72.88%)

2. July - 54-28 (65.85%)

3.
H.O.T-Forever - 27-15 (64.29%)

4. SiLvEr - 16-9 (64.00%)
5. ChoJJa - 50-29 (63.29%)
6. Junwi - 26-16 (61.90%)
7. YellOw - 55-35 (61.11%)
8. JinNam - 16-11 (59.26%)
9. KisS)JinSu - 14-10 (58.33%)
10. SaferZerg - 18-13 (58.06%)
11. OversKy - 22-16 (57.89%)
12. GoRush - 31-23 (57.41%)
13. JJu - 40-31 (56.34%)
14. TheWinD - 15-12 (55.56%)
15. SiR@SoNi - 16-13 (55.17%)
16. MuMyung - 29-26 (52.73%)
17. Jaedong - 14-14 (50.00%)

==ZvT==

1. Jaedong - 22-11 (66.67%)

2.
SoNiC)BlacK - 21-13 (61.76%)

3.
sAviOr - 57-36 (61.29%)

4. Luxury - 14-11 (56.00%)
5. OversKy - 21-17 (55.26%)
6. GGPlay - 38-31 (55.07%)
7. YellOw[ArnC] - 23-19 (54.76%)
8. GoRush - 64-53 (54.70%)
9. July - 77-64 (54.61%)
10. H.O.T-Forever - 36-31 (53.73%)
11. YellOw - 99-89 (52.66%)
12. Shark[gm] - 11-11 (50.00%)

==ZvZ==

1. Jaedong - 18-5 (78.26%)

2. ZergMaN - 21-13 (61.76%)

3.
Luxury - 16-10 (61.54%)

4. GoRush - 61-41 (59.80%)
5. MinGu - 20-14 (58.82%)
6. sAviOr - 36-26 (58.06%)
7. H.O.T-Forever - 38-28 (57.58%)
8. ChoJJa - 84-62 (57.53%)
9. July - 51-38 (57.30%)
10. YellOw - 67-51 (56.78%)
11. JJu - 62-49 (55.86%)
12. GGPlay - 27-22 (55.10%)
13. CryStal - 12-11 (52.17%)
14. YellOw[ArnC] - 18-17 (51.43%)
15. SiLvEr - 22-21 (51.16%)
16. MuMyung - 32-32 (50.00%)
16. Side_LeGenD - 20-20 (50.00%)

18 players are on all 3 lists for their respective races (meaning they have at least 20+ games with a 50% winning percentage in all 3 match ups). They are:
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Bisu
free[gm]
Kingdom
Nal_rA
Pusan

GooDFriend
iloveoov
Iris
Midas
NaDa
Sea[Shield]
Xellos

GoRush
H.O.T-Forever
Jaedong
July
sAviOr
YellOw

An interesting note is Sea[Shield] is the only player to have a 60%+ winning percentage in all 3 match ups. Also, Jaedong is the only player to have the highest winning percentage in two match ups (ZvT and ZvZ).

To get a rough idea of who is the best, most balanced player we can use a rudimentary ranking system based on this data. We'll take the 18 players with at least 50% in all 3 match ups and add up the position of their rank in each match up. (Example: sAviOr is 1st in ZvP, 3rd in ZvT, and 6th in ZvZ so he gets 1+3+6 = 10 points.) Then we can rank the players with the lowest amount of points being the best. This system obviously has many flaws in it but it will be interesting to see how the list looks anyway. So here it is:
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1. Bisu - 9 Nal_rA - 9 Sea[Shield] - 9

4. Midas - 10
4. sAviOr - 10
6. iloveoov - 12
7. NaDa - 15
8. Jaedong - 19
9. free[gm] - 20
9. H.O.T-Forever - 20
9. July - 20
12. Pusan - 21
13. Kingdom - 22
14. XellOs - 23
15. GoRush - 24
16. Iris - 28
16. YellOw - 28
18. GooDFriend - 31

To see a list of the players with the highest overall winning percentage you can go to the TLPD player list (by clicking the magnifying glass) and clicking on Win % twice. However that list includes every player in the database so it's a bit messy.

I have compiled a ranking of the highest overall winning percentage but I only included players that have played at least 50 games. This makes the list much clearer and it looks how you would expect a list like this to look. I have included every player that has at least a 50% overall winning percentage and has played at least 50 games. Here's the list:

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1. Jaedong - 54-30 (64.29%)

2. Sea[Shield] - 79-44 (64.23%)

3. Midas - 155-90 (63.27%)

4.
sAviOr - 136-79 (63.26%)

5. iloveoov - 213-128 (62.46%)

6. Bisu - 62-38 (62.00%)
7. NaDa - 324-202 (61.60%)
8. Stork - 108-74 (59.34%)
9. XellOs - 219-153 (58.87%)
10. Nal_rA - 190-133 (58.82%)
11. July - 183-130 (58.47%)
12. H.O.T-Forever - 105-75 (58.33%)
13. Iris - 104-77 (57.46%)
14. Luxury - 39-29 (57.35%)
15. GoRush - 157-117 (57.30%)
16. firebathero - 41-31 (56.94%)
17. Hwasin - 79-60 (56.83%)
18. free[gm] - 43-33 (56.58%)
19. BoxeR - 233-179 (56.55%)
20. YellOw - 221-175 (55.81%)
21. ChoJJa - 213-172 (55.32%)
22. GooDFriend - 144-118 (54.96%)
23. Pusan - 93-79 (54.07%)
24. JJu - 151-131 (53.55%)
25. Oddysay - 68-59 (53.54%)
26. Garimto - 31-27 (53.45%)
27. Much[gm] - 44-39 (53.01%)
28. GGPlay - 82-73 (52.90%)
29. Kingdom - 129-116 (52.65%)
30. OversKy - 63-57 (52.50%)
31. Reach - 180-163 (52.48%)
32. YellOw[ArnC] - 52-48 (52.00%)
33. Silent_Control - 95-88 (51.91%)
34. Canata - 28-26 (51.85%)
35. Anytime - 90-86 (51.14%)
36. Junwi - 99-95 (51.03%)
37. DaezanG - 27-26 (50.94%)
38. Grrrr... - 40-39 (50.63%)
39. Casy - 95-93 (50.53%)
40. Light - 39-39 (50.00%)
41. UpmagiC - 29-29 (50.00%)

Next time there's an argument over who's better at a certain match up or about who's the best in a match up you can direct them to this thread. I hope this information is interesting and useful. All the statistics are from the new Team Liquid Progaming Database so check that out if you haven't already.

OrderlyChaos

United States1115 Posts

July 29 2007 11:58 GMT

Nice work ^_^

I had no idea Pusan was such a monster at PvP o_O

NHi.GoMDoRi

Canada51 Posts

July 29 2007 12:00 GMT

nice compilation

even tho the data may be correct, i still have most respect for players with high # of games played and have high winning %. in a way it's more accurate isn't it?

YoUr_KiLLeR

United States3420 Posts

July 29 2007 12:00 GMT

reach really isnt above 50% in pvt? x_x

Last Romantic

United States20667 Posts

July 29 2007 12:03 GMT

Reach..

vT: 74-55 (57.36%) ?
vP: 37-25 (59.68%) ?

-_-;

plus, TLPD seems to have some discrepancy with kespa site. Kespa says Reach is like 51 or 52% win vs Z, whereas TLPD gives him an atrocious 45%

boghat

United States2109 Posts

July 29 2007 12:06 GMT

Wow it's hilarious that Reach seems to be one of the only players I forgot about lol. Wow, that's weird. Oh well, I'll add him in now don't worry.

ATeddyBear

Canada2843 Posts

July 29 2007 12:10 GMT

god damn tlpd is so awesome

Hot_Bid

Braavos36402 Posts

July 29 2007 12:11 GMT

that top list of players with 50 games played is interesting because none of the top three have never won a major league

Pressure

7326 Posts

July 29 2007 12:19 GMT

hahaha thanks man :D

Pressure

7326 Posts

July 29 2007 12:21 GMT

#10

TvZ
1.iloveoov
2.BoxeR
3.Midas

SKTvZ, haha

Pressure

7326 Posts

July 29 2007 12:22 GMT

#11

surprising that midas made only 4th, i was expecting top 3 at least :/

Last Romantic

United States20667 Posts

July 29 2007 12:29 GMT

#12

ChRh and ArtofHan make me smile

LosingID8

CA10835 Posts

July 29 2007 12:29 GMT

#13

i find NaDa's recs overall to be the most impressive. he has a really high win percentage in all matchups, even though he's played a lot more games than people ranked above him.

TvP
25-12 vs 91-61

TvZ
74-35 vs 135-76

TvT
40-22 vs 97-65

it kind of reminds me on bnet, i have had several recs that were like 50-10, but i have little doubt that people who are 2000-500 are better than me, even though my winning percentage is much higher.

Muftobration

United States2 Posts

July 29 2007 12:31 GMT

#14

That's some really cool info.

InfeSteD

United States4658 Posts

July 29 2007 12:32 GMT

#15

Cool Stuff

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

July 29 2007 12:34 GMT

#16

Man, I had no idea ChRh was the hugest one-matchup wonder ever wtf:
vT: 17-28 (37.78%)
vZ: 27-41 (39.71%)
vP: 25-12 (67.57%)

RowdierBob

Australia13537 Posts

July 29 2007 12:37 GMT

#17

Hrmmm these stats are somewhat misleading though.

Guys like Jaedong have never made a Starleague in comparison to the Oovs, Saviors, Nadas etc who are constantly playing the cream of the crop where Jaedong is playing Survivor, ODT and Proleague where the players are often not as good.

Nice compilation though!

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

July 29 2007 12:40 GMT

#18

op, there are some editing errors for newlines for players' pics~

jeddus

United States832 Posts

July 29 2007 12:44 GMT

#19

It gives you a good idea of where everyone is statistically speaking, but sometimes the quality of the win might mean more.

Hypothetical example:
You beat savior 3-2 in a starleague finals..

Someone else plays 4 pro league matches against the B team of a pro squad over the course of a few seasons and wins 3 and loses one.

3-1 > 3-2 percentage wise right? But maybe savior was better than every one of those b-squad guys.

The statistics help, but at the top tiers it will always be very very close.

Last Romantic

United States20667 Posts

July 29 2007 12:46 GMT

#20

On July 29 2007 21:40 thedeadhaji wrote:
op, there are some editing errors for newlines for players' pics~

intentional, I think. ties. chrh and sea have same tvp percentage; midas and boxer have same tvz percentage, etc.

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