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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
July 29 2007 12:51 GMT
#21
With the launch of TLPD, there will be more and more great posts like this.

And we will learn that.

1. Stats can tell a lot of stories.
2. But stats don't tell the whole story.
returns upon momentous occasions.
Sudyn
Profile Joined May 2007
United States744 Posts
July 29 2007 12:55 GMT
#22
I'm not sure of the TLPD covers this, but ChRh played Random and then Protoss before he settled on Terran, so not all of his wins involve TvP, TvT or TvZ. Unless the OP considered that already.
Gaetele banned?
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
July 29 2007 13:00 GMT
#23
Wow. Sea is a real beast.
o_x | Ow. | 1003 ESPORTS dollars | If you have any questions about bans please PM Kennigit
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
July 29 2007 13:03 GMT
#24
On July 29 2007 21:40 thedeadhaji wrote:
op, there are some editing errors for newlines for players' pics~

Last Romantic's right, it was intentional. It's for when the players are tied.

On July 29 2007 21:55 rS]taCat wrote:
I'm not sure of the TLPD covers this, but ChRh played Random and then Protoss before he settled on Terran, so not all of his wins involve TvP, TvT or TvZ. Unless the OP considered that already.

That's a good point. I'll browse through his list of games and see what I find.
SpArK
Profile Joined April 2007
Canada33 Posts
July 29 2007 13:13 GMT
#25
nice savior is a monster :}
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
July 29 2007 13:20 GMT
#26
Holy shit jaedong 78% win for zvz. Really nice.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Oak
Profile Joined June 2007
South Africa114 Posts
July 29 2007 13:23 GMT
#27
Definitely some interesting results.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
July 29 2007 13:24 GMT
#28
Okay I looked at ChRh's list of games and it looks like he played his first 5 games not terran. He was 2-1 Random vs P and 2-0 PvP. So his record TvP seems to be 21-11 (65.63%) which drops him down to 4th. Kind of sad but I'm going to change it now.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
July 29 2007 13:30 GMT
#29
One has to also keep in mind the passage of time and number of games each of these players have played. A 5-year career 60% record is much more impressive than a 1-year 60% record. Not to mention, SC is far more competitive now than ever before.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
July 29 2007 13:51 GMT
#30
Yellow has above 60% ZvP? O_o
That was the thing that surprised me the most. I thought it would be around 50%.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
July 29 2007 13:57 GMT
#31
Using ChRh's example I looked through Grrrr...'s list of PvZ games and he's only 15-15 (50%) in that match up. He's also 4-3 Random vs Z and 2-1 ZvZ.
Sudyn
Profile Joined May 2007
United States744 Posts
July 29 2007 13:59 GMT
#32
Yeah, the progaming scene knows Jaedong is so good at ZvZ. That's why he has so little games on it - people deliberately send other races against Jaedong because his ZvZ is monster.

But his ZvP and ZvT are nothing to laugh at either.
Gaetele banned?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 29 2007 14:02 GMT
#33
really nice thread, ty for compiling.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 29 2007 14:07 GMT
#34
On July 29 2007 23:02 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
really nice thread, ty for compiling.


I came here to say this.
So, I quoted this.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 29 2007 14:40 GMT
#35
ugh
the once king of pvp
king dom

8TH : (
Oak
Profile Joined June 2007
South Africa114 Posts
July 29 2007 15:38 GMT
#36
Yeah the Kingdom PvsP bit suprised me as well, I thought he would have been stronger in the stats department.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 29 2007 15:43 GMT
#37
On July 29 2007 22:30 azndsh wrote:
One has to also keep in mind the passage of time and number of games each of these players have played. A 5-year career 60% record is much more impressive than a 1-year 60% record. Not to mention, SC is far more competitive now than ever before.


on the other hand, a 1 yr statistic can give a more accurate representation of the players' current proficiency in the MU, since they can't be "protected" by their past stats.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
July 29 2007 16:00 GMT
#38
I guess it works both ways. Some of them they dont have enough games to actually prove it or some of them retired already. I guess it shows currently top but its flawed in some like Hot and Garimto. I remember Kingdom was the king of pvp but hes slumping. I like this thread.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-29 16:22:04
July 29 2007 16:19 GMT
#39
why has nada played so many televised matches compared to others that debuted around or before his time O_O

oh, and also am i correct in assuming that a lot of televised games haven't been added to the database? i recall NaDa getting an award a while back for his 300th win on MBC (in other words, excluding games played on OGN) or something like that
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
July 29 2007 16:33 GMT
#40
ha, i was just asking for stats like these

thanks for compiling boghat, it was interesting going over them

i hope one day it will be integrated into TLPD so that it stays up to date. either way great stuff
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
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