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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2018 13:20 GMT
#80
/replace
/in if needed for setup.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2018 23:01 GMT
#88
/in

I'll make time

If it is full /replace anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 00:14 GMT
#193
I rolled town. Kinda boring. But it's ok. I can devolve my town game even more for when I roll mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 00:18 GMT
#194
##vote Palmar

Got to start on my tunnel early.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 01:06 GMT
#210
On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote:
just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range.

##vote disformation

It's ok. You tried.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 14:16 GMT
#460
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.

Our combined effort will make this world a better place.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 14:23 GMT
#461
On March 20 2018 17:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 17:17 Holyflare wrote:
2. Conversion
3. ExO_
5. Alakaslam
11. n00bking
13. Rels
15. Palmar
16. Fecalfeast
18. sicklucker
19. Koshi
20. MoosyDoosy

Shit list so far. Conversion and noob being there together bugs me but they're both independently scummy/off.

I would remove FF and Moosy. Also possibly Koshi because regardless of if he is right or wrong on disformation i believe his read is genuine.

So much love I have a small tear in my eye.
I'll explain it just for you.
"Disfo scum for helping"
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 14:31 GMT
#462
On March 20 2018 19:15 Palmar wrote:
I have no reservations about lynching people on day 1 who are intentionally not playing like Koshi

Not trying to play like koshi is indeed a grave injustice to humanity. Alas not many people can achieve and sustain such a high state of brilliancy. Lynching them would therefore be somewhat brutal. Yet justified. We all need more Koshi in our lives.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 14:35 GMT
#463
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.


Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it


disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.

I think this is funny. A lot.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 21:18 GMT
#565
Rsoultin and KSC are tip top town.


If above statement is proven false I will automatically not qualify for the MVP trophy.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 20 2018 21:37 GMT
#573
On March 21 2018 06:20 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 06:18 Koshi wrote:
Rsoultin and KSC are tip top town.


If above statement is proven false I will automatically not qualify for the MVP trophy.


I'd say that's boring and I want to hear more reads, but it's actually not entirely in thread sentiment (though from my perspective it should be lol ><).

Still think disinfo is the best lynch, koshi?

Yes. From what I read he pings me the most.









Disclaimer: I am not reading.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 08:17 GMT
#796
On March 21 2018 10:13 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 09:53 Conversion wrote:
funny you mention skill because if you’re town you’re the one getting scum read, not me

but you’re scum and it’s really cute that you try to quantify skill at a forum mafia game as literally no one thinks you’re good LOL

lol, sure buddy. I'm not being scumread by a significant number of players. I'm not in the Noose right now, the number of votes on me are fewer than will be had by the eventual lynch, and there's a lot of time left in the Phase.

If the scum team isn't terrified of me yet, they WILL be. In all the years I've played this game, and in all the dozens of times I've played this game, I have still never ONCE been end-gamed as Town. If I'm Town, and the scum won, then I HAD to have been dead. The scum team MUST eliminate me themselves, or get the town to do it for them, because if I'm left alive, the mafia win percentage falls to ZERO.

As another player once put it, the only person who figures out the scum roster faster than I do, is the narrator.

It has also been more than four YEARS since any town team I was on accidentally mislynched or vig-shot me, and then managed to win without my help. It's never happened here. Town won when the scum team failed to kill me, and town won after the scum team night-killed me, but the one time I was mislynched, is my only Town loss here. (I voted against only two players in that game, and both were scum, but even after I was mislynched, Town didn't follow my votes quickly enough to win the game without me.)

If there are any players in this game more experienced than I am, there aren't many. And I expect there are none who could match my winning percentage.

But keep on running your mouth.

I like this guy. Can we keep him? Pretty please 😇
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 08:41 GMT
#807
On March 21 2018 13:10 darthfoley wrote:
It's like if I said

"I don't eat bananas because they're healthy, I eat them because they are yellow!"

Followed by an explanation of

"Indeed, bananas are yellow because they have lots of vitamins and minerals that will help you live a long and happy life. That's why I eat bananas. "

The explanation doesn't fit with why I stated that I eat bananas.

Expecting a town read from koshi and rayn for making a banana analogy.

The only thing you should expect is a letter from my lawyer demanding royalties.

It is a good analogy though. If it is true and not about rsoultin which I suspect it is. Because I already said she was town.

Exo is also town. Free read.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 08:42 GMT
#809
On March 21 2018 13:13 Tictock wrote:
Bah, don't have as much time as I would have liked after showering/getting rdy for bed.

I dislike not having any posts from Rels or Sicklucker, but I agree with Rsoul (?) that it is a bad idea to lynch them as it is kinda a waste and at best a coinflip.

I don't want to lynch (in no particular order) Holyflare + Show Spoiler +
Seems invested, digging at things that catch his attn, has attitude
, Mocsta + Show Spoiler +
pushing his reads, checking filters/meta, forgot about his post restriction kus he got into the game, dumbtell
, Vivax + Show Spoiler +
Agressive and involved play, have agreed with/had similar thought process
, raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +
honestly less sure about rayn atm (moosy thing and having a hard time recalling what he has done without double checking), but potentially strong town who gave me town vibes earlier
, KelsierSC + Show Spoiler +
quite active and pushing his reads, has multiple times shown eagerness to question things to get a better understanding
.

I probably wouldn't lynch these people (weak-leaning town), Conversion + Show Spoiler +
several of his posts showed a fire in them I don't expect from mafia, I remember liking his response to early pressure
, rsoultin + Show Spoiler +
potentially strong town, felt a bit off but prob just kus I disagreed with early slam read
, disformation + Show Spoiler +
probably just have a soft spot for him kus we started playing here around the same time, but nothing has really struck me as scummy
, Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
dat mind-meld, he reacted exactly the same way I did to a few of Moosy's posts


Jury is out on these folks, Alakaslam + Show Spoiler +
had good vibes from him early, has dropped off. Head says he could easily be mafia, gut wants to town read him still
, darthfoley + Show Spoiler +
really low impact, sorta agreed with a couple of his posts
, ykl + Show Spoiler +
can't remember if he has posted at all recently nor much of what he did early on tbh, didn't get any scum vibes off him though and kinda just want to see more


Probably mafia in: ExO_ + Show Spoiler +
Other than the interaction with KSC, haven't seen anything to change my early read
, n00bking + Show Spoiler +
Claims to be invaluable but seems to do nothing but argue
, Palmar + Show Spoiler +
Almost no read on him, but I feel like he is lacking the fire and passion I have seen from Palmar before
, Koshi + Show Spoiler +
If he has posted anything since the start of this phase it left no impact, very un-Koshi-like


Bleh, guess this became basically just a list post. Was hoping to organize my thoughts better, and I'm not super happy with where I am kus there are a ton of people I would like to filter.

I will not be doing that though as I am not tryharding this game and I will prob only have time to catchup before deadline. I'm fine with any lynch as long as it's someone if my "joury's out" or "prob mafia" list.

Another free townread till forever. Ezgame. I should slow down a bit
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 08:48 GMT
#814
On March 21 2018 14:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 08:57 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2?

Here's a strategic decision that would be informed on D2 by knowing how many mafia the game started with: WHO TO LYNCH. If you know how many members of the mafia there are, you know how many kills they can execute. Then you can see if any are "missing." If you don't know how many to expect, then a healer doesn't know whether to have added trust toward the target he healed. A roleblocker or jailkeeper doesn't know whether to have added suspicion toward their own target. Circumstantial evidence yielded by the night results will very often outweigh whatever inclinations players previously had, about who "seemed" town and who "seemed" scummy. Instead of the pure guessing game of Day 1, you have hard data to work with...IF you know how many mafia members there are. So it's CRITICAL information. Unfortunately, the OP doesn't even give us a RANGE of possible answers. There's literally nothing keeping this from being an 11/9 setup at this point. Or 19/1.

And this is the beauty of smashboards.

They play blue way better than we do folks.

Listen, how did I know Noobking was scum?

PASSIVE VOICE. But passive even for him.

We usually are all very active voices, but his is more often passive. We are very much gone readers here.

BUT HE IS HELLUVA LOT LESS PASSIVE. Consider that before lynching him.

I dont want to lynch noobking except when Slam gives the go. Then I will want to lynch him with the heat of a thousand suns.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 09:01 GMT
#823
On March 21 2018 17:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 17:17 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:13 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 09:53 Conversion wrote:
funny you mention skill because if you’re town you’re the one getting scum read, not me

but you’re scum and it’s really cute that you try to quantify skill at a forum mafia game as literally no one thinks you’re good LOL

lol, sure buddy. I'm not being scumread by a significant number of players. I'm not in the Noose right now, the number of votes on me are fewer than will be had by the eventual lynch, and there's a lot of time left in the Phase.

If the scum team isn't terrified of me yet, they WILL be. In all the years I've played this game, and in all the dozens of times I've played this game, I have still never ONCE been end-gamed as Town. If I'm Town, and the scum won, then I HAD to have been dead. The scum team MUST eliminate me themselves, or get the town to do it for them, because if I'm left alive, the mafia win percentage falls to ZERO.

As another player once put it, the only person who figures out the scum roster faster than I do, is the narrator.

It has also been more than four YEARS since any town team I was on accidentally mislynched or vig-shot me, and then managed to win without my help. It's never happened here. Town won when the scum team failed to kill me, and town won after the scum team night-killed me, but the one time I was mislynched, is my only Town loss here. (I voted against only two players in that game, and both were scum, but even after I was mislynched, Town didn't follow my votes quickly enough to win the game without me.)

If there are any players in this game more experienced than I am, there aren't many. And I expect there are none who could match my winning percentage.

But keep on running your mouth.

I like this guy. Can we keep him? Pretty please 😇


No, Koshi. We talked about this.

I never get the cool toys. 😢😭
I hate you!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 09:24 GMT
#845
On March 21 2018 17:53 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 17:48 Koshi wrote:
On March 21 2018 14:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 21 2018 08:57 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2?

Here's a strategic decision that would be informed on D2 by knowing how many mafia the game started with: WHO TO LYNCH. If you know how many members of the mafia there are, you know how many kills they can execute. Then you can see if any are "missing." If you don't know how many to expect, then a healer doesn't know whether to have added trust toward the target he healed. A roleblocker or jailkeeper doesn't know whether to have added suspicion toward their own target. Circumstantial evidence yielded by the night results will very often outweigh whatever inclinations players previously had, about who "seemed" town and who "seemed" scummy. Instead of the pure guessing game of Day 1, you have hard data to work with...IF you know how many mafia members there are. So it's CRITICAL information. Unfortunately, the OP doesn't even give us a RANGE of possible answers. There's literally nothing keeping this from being an 11/9 setup at this point. Or 19/1.

And this is the beauty of smashboards.

They play blue way better than we do folks.

Listen, how did I know Noobking was scum?

PASSIVE VOICE. But passive even for him.

We usually are all very active voices, but his is more often passive. We are very much gone readers here.

BUT HE IS HELLUVA LOT LESS PASSIVE. Consider that before lynching him.

I dont want to lynch noobking except when Slam gives the go. Then I will want to lynch him with the heat of a thousand suns.

Like, I don't understand any of what he said there, about "passive voice." But sure, when he gives the go....thousand suns. Also, you are mostly still killing it, this game. So keep up the good work.

Not many can understand a prophet his divination. But we as mere mortals can only follow the direction his words lead us.

However, we should not believe every spirit blindly, but test the spirits whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out in this world.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 10:21 GMT
#877
Due to above 2 posts from blatant townreads I am obliged to say I think HF could easily be mafia this game.

"He doesnt look mafia" is an extremely bad heuristic to find mafia because it is literally the only thing mafia thinks about every time they press "Post".
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 10:56 GMT
#908
On February 13 2018 19:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2018 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still realyl don't understand why people townread you on N1 but maybe i am just bad.
You say things like:
On February 13 2018 08:54 disformation wrote:
igoring d1. less likely that scum did nothing and just sheeped rayn on rs. that makes conv and df look better. esp if damdy is town.

So, idk, do conv and df look like scum if damdred is town then or what?

Small meta thing. Disfo tends to make good posts as mafia and then goes "rawr rawr my post is so good rawr rawr"

But as town he makes a good point and then instantly counters his own good point with like a supershitty point and acts like his good point isnt good anymore.


It's funny.

I did this on mobile.

Anyway. I am not scumreading disfo for any of this. I just voted him for a small thing and have not found a reason to go off him. Not in his play. Not in other people their play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2018 11:32 GMT
#928
5 mafia would be unbalanced unless town has 3 protection roles so I am assuming 4 mafia.

If there are 5 mafia hosts fucked up. Or should asap change the amount of night kills. So if there are 5 mafia. Contact the hosts that their balance is potentially shit.


Remember mafia has members/2 night kills rounded up. So 4 makes a lot of sense. Calix is probably smart.
I had a good night of sleep.
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