Hi all! Long time no speak for a lot of you. I've played a bit of video Mafia since I've been away (which I'm horrible at, it turns out) but I'm excited to get back into forums.

I think TW's thinking makes sense if you assume he doesn't know TS's usual posting style (which I think is like almost comically formal); it wasn't immediately obvious to me that TS was joking either. But that said, I'm not sure that I buy TW's switch to town reading TS? TW doesn't recant on his thinking TS is dumb - but if TS is joking then obviously he doesn't believe it, and so isn't dumb?

I also don't like Vivax's read on TS. Asking about RNG lynches isn't driving the game forward either. I'd say TS is null and TW is scummy null; giving them both a town pass at this stage is waaay premature. But at the same time, I do really like Vivax pinging Grack. So overall TR.

The people I really don't like are Onegu, BH, Grack and LS. Everyone else can be forgiven for not being in the thread (HF is British I think, so he gets a pass as well) but each of those has been here and has studiously avoided saying anything meaningful. LS has, what, four or five posts, none saying anything even vaguely game related. I seem to recall LS has trouble getting started as Mafia... this would fit right into that.

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 10:10 GMT

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Oh, Prison Break too... so much lurking.

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 12:48 GMT

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Hi PB: it's not the lack of posts that I object to, it's that quite a few people thread entered, did nothing and then left. I get that the game started at a weird hour and some people haven't got here yet - that's fine (for now...). I hope you can see the difference? For example, LS *still* hasn't given his views on anything, and I don't think the filter he posted assists, as there his fourth post was contentful, and it came only an hour after his first.

In terms of catching Mafia, I always think back to something Foolishness wrote in his long advice post: if someone does something super scummy, they're scum, however they walk it back. Sometimes stepping back and appreciating the entire game is helpful, but you can risk getting overwhelmed with back and forths.

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 13:14 GMT

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PB- if you think TW is more townie, does that affect your TS read? And do you have any thoughts on LS' slow start?

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 13:23 GMT

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The post I'm referring to? My comment on finding scum was general; not sure we've had any one moment like that yet.

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 13:25 GMT

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On June 03 2017 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Hmm James trying to push me despite the fact I just posted a recent game where I did have a slow start. Can't tell he scum trying to push for a easy mislynch or someone who didn't even read that filter.

Your fourth post in that game, which was an hour after your first, was substantive. But I see your point, insofar as it doesn't make you mafia. And I'm not calling you Mafia, I'm saying thread lurking is scummy and the longer it goes on the scummier it gets.

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 13:36 GMT

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okay here's the thing I don't get: TW pointed out that TS's response to BH and the "rush" of posts was weird. I agree with TW insofar as that was the way I read it too, at first. But then TS said he was actually joking, which makes sense (and it fits in with TS' posting style insofar as I remember it from previous games). If it had ended there, fair enough. But then TW says "I still think what you said was weird, but you're towny" after TS had said it was a joke. That doesn't make sense to me. Like, TW landed pretty hard on TS for his initial read, and nothing changed other than TS claiming it wasn't serious, but TW's read flipped.

So that's why I think TW is on the scummy side of null (not because his posts were forced, as others were saying).

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 14:10 GMT

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On June 03 2017 13:39 Tumblewood wrote:

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of course I don't carry the same conviction after I realize he is joking. still think his comments on bh are hot garbage but I'm not going to continue being aggressive because I think he's town

LS I think you need to re-read the above ... I agree that the TR isn't explained, but the thing I don't get is how can TS's comments be "hot garbage" and a joke at the same time.

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 16:49 GMT

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I like BTDT's forensic approach to PB's posts. I think it can be difficult to read newer players from his approach, so I'm not sure he's right, but he gets townie points.

Yo HF- appreciate your thoughts on the rest of the game other than TW? Pretty sure the marker is already down for TW when he gets back..

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 17:02 GMT

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So far like half the thread has been essentially AFK :-/

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 17:35 GMT

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On June 04 2017 02:24 Holyflare wrote:
Mate they're cutting a cake with the master sword

Helpful also for running through uninvited guests

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 17:47 GMT

#144

HF I think that might be a bit of a reach. Going through the game again it's clear LS noticed TW-TS, but just completely whiffed on why it was actually interesting. It could be scum "saying what's happening", but then this is LS - he has a ... different style.

Fidei86

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June 03 2017 17:48 GMT

#145

(And if I haven't understood your point could you restate? Maybe after cake)

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