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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 08 2017 20:40 GMT
#16
/in

Doesn't this work
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 14 2017 03:11 GMT
#34
Yay

I wish some people who are obs would play q.q
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 14:56 GMT
#54
Second! On says scum
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 17:34 GMT
#60
Lol that opening

5/7 perfect ranking.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 18:03 GMT
#64
I'm good happa I missed you and your amazing voice bby!

And since ls wants us to vote people in the game.
##vote lightningstrike
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 18:29 GMT
#82
On January 16 2017 03:15 Hapahauli wrote:
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On January 16 2017 03:10 LightningStrike wrote:
TBH though if Damdred keeps pushing all of Day 1 and thinks I scum then he pretty much will claim scum just fyi since he normally can read me well.


Damdred, is this accurate?


Generally it's true, even if I change my mind last second I figure him out eventually.

Just makingthe argument though ls makes me want to towwn read him for horrid reasons. But don't pay attention to that.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 19:22 GMT
#98
It is interesting as a side note that hapa was interested enough to ask me a question about ls reading but just disnt care enough to respond to me answering (feelings hurt).

Really I did like that vivax had a sort of point he wanted to drive home. I disagree with him though.

I liked hapa offensive capabilities but I sort of feel like it was misplaced it felt like.

Fight seems off to me.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 19:26 GMT
#99
On January 16 2017 04:12 Vivax wrote:
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On January 16 2017 04:01 Hapahauli wrote:
Sure. A town thought process is straightforward.

I think "x" is mafia because "reasons."
I think "post" is scummy because "reasons."

This was not the thought process here.

On January 16 2017 03:27 Vivax wrote:
...
I found that sort of scummy but I'm still ruminating on it. I'll just keep observing for now
...

This isn't straightforward. You find what I was doing "sort of scummy", but immediately discredit your own observation by stating that "you're still ruminating."

This very round-about thought process is scummy.


Nah it just feels too early for me to jump to definite conclusions based on a single observation. Your attitude back then could also be explained from a townie point of view, and ultimately I'm not going to make a decision on your alignment just based on that single point as I don't feel it already warrants a scumread. You looked pretty cramped and I explained why I thought it was slightly more likely to come from scum.

Or in a nutshell: I don't reason in absolutes. And I don't think you are right that only town reasons in absolutes. I can mention points that catch my interest without them necessarily leading to a confident conclusion.


I like this post though, it has a townie vibe in it and really trying to get his point across.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 20:16 GMT
#110
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 20:34 GMT
#116
Also on that note I think that vivax is showing some pretty good critical analysis thinking aat this juncture.

No real over reaction just calm logic, really like vivax at this point.

Like after most of this I think it is t v t right now.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 20:39 GMT
#118
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
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On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?



It's something meta specific to ls. He's incredibly lazy, isn't really confrontational and lays super low as scum.

He can get past these of his partner is someone he lives and pushed his buttons and rides him hard.

I would give it an 7-8 atm. Probably halfway through the day I can lock in depending. But some nice meta things on ls.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 21:21 GMT
#127
No I'm not I have reached conclusions based on whack think.

I think hapa v vivax is t v t.
I think ls is town.

Have talked about everything I find interesting. So what other game an I playing?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 21:52 GMT
#132
I'm honestly tired of trying to interact and get on a good working relationship in games hf to just be ignored half of the time by you.

Yes I thought the right was a bit strange but vivax responses since then haven't been bad (most have been good).

I responded to hapa about my read on ls that's the long and short of it shrug.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 22:00 GMT
#135
I'm not saying he is the past three games or so he ignored me for the early parts (mostly in my mind). So I really didn't see a reason to go about the same thing the same way again.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 22:04 GMT
#137
Like I know it would be amazing if I always have thought processes that make sense. But I don't have them all of the time.

I do like vivax more as time goes along, just because I make a comment. I really have liked most of vivax posts doesnt mean I haven't liked hapas.

So meh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 22:11 GMT
#139
I didn't say I liked all of hapas posts in fact I clearly said that how he was going against vivax felt off. And it did and his follow up questions and answers posts were decent with some nice thoughts in it.

So please sont out words in my mouth
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 22:30 GMT
#142
Hf I always post short little blurbs about what I think especially d1, if people waant more detail they generally ask. You know this if i why you are being like this besides to put me in a bad light I guess.

Specifically talking to vivax, 're evaluating his position on vivax and going to do work elsewhere (posting about you). Pro town posts by hapa imo
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 22:43 GMT
#147
Eh I see where the disconect is, my posting implies that hi had an earlier bad feeling and I don't talk about hapa in that posting.

Ehhhhh, I can see it and understand your point.

It's a mistake on my part, maybe I meant to type hhapa there instead of vivax. I'm not sure what I was thinking or if i wwa just in a hurry.

Unfortunate but I doubt you believe my explanation anyway.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 15 2017 23:25 GMT
#151
Or I could of generally made a mistake and not realized it?

Irk I hate making mistakes but shit happens I guess. I'll do my thing but he will try to kill me all game seems like meh.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 00:09 GMT
#155
On January 16 2017 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
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On January 16 2017 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Where did LightningStrike and Vivax go? What do you guys think about all of this?

I think Hf is being a bit nitpicky? That fight feels weird idk why honestly.


But why weird ls? Which side is weird?
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