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NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-21 23:06:12
September 03 2016 19:38 GMT
#10
/sign
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 06 2016 23:05 GMT
#47
On September 07 2016 07:11 Shapelog wrote:
Wait a second....their names sound familiar.

Why do your guys name sound familiar?

OH SHIT!

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT GAME AFTER MY CP DIED!

....

Um...
+ Show Spoiler +

Mick Foley Save ME!


So...How... How did that Game turn out?

In short,

After day 1, I went to slay RLVG, and a lookout caught me doing so. I was then lynched the following day. That left you, the traitor, and an empty slot (Was replaced twice) as the last scum members.

Firebringer who was replacing our teammate was sent to kill Kovath; the lookout once again spotted him in action.
Seeing as you were inactive and that it was 9v2 (including you), scum decided to concede.

It was a bad game all around: The setup was bad, 5 of the 15 slots were empty, and scum played like Eggy. Don't bother reading what you've missed, not worth it.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 23:26:37
September 06 2016 23:20 GMT
#48
On September 07 2016 04:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2016 04:38 NeverUnlucky wrote:
/sign

"The United States is considered a puritanical society by many Western nations. For example, they can't believe we hassle public servants like General David Petraeus because he had a mistress. In France, if a powerful man doesn't have a mistress, he's considered a wimp."

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On September 07 2016 04:29 Calix wrote:
/in

Hello NeverUnlucky, hello Calix. I see that you are both new to this forum and that you both signed up for the two games currently open for signups. If you are not newbie from forum mafia in general, disregard what I'm going to say.

A game a forum mafia takes quite a lot of daily time, ideally you should take at least 1h per day to play properly, and some people commit way more than that. Since you are both signed up for two games at the same time, I will warn you about it; if you are new to forum mafia and are doing something fulltime during the day, I would not recommend you to play two games at the same time. But if you're like a student and you have a lot of free time, it is possible.

Again, if you're not forum mafia newbs, sorry for this ^^ I just wanna make sure you do not underestimate the time a forum mafia game can take.


I think I also speak on Calix's behalf when I say that we're of the people who commit more than an hour a day to FM. If you're worried about us lurking, fear not, we're active.

Non, y'a pas de soucis. C'est compréhensible que tu veuilles que ta partie se déroule sans anicroches, en bon hôte que tu es. Nous aussi détestons les "lurkers". Espérons qu'il n'y en ait pas trop cette fois. ^^

Also, is there a quicker way of multi-quoting posts than to do "Quote[#1]", copy the text, do "Quote[#2]", paste the text, and answer?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 06 2016 23:25 GMT
#49
On September 07 2016 06:25 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2016 04:35 Rels wrote:
On September 07 2016 02:26 Shapelog wrote:
Well I cannot argue with that logic.
On September 07 2016 02:16 Tictock wrote:
Oh what the hell.

/in

It should anyways. If not, I can just multitask more when I am in the lab.

+ Show Spoiler +
It honestly sucks to not have my 10pm-2am work time. I am so used to it, and its gone. Like, that was my time to just lay back, work on ongping projects, and just finish up anything I need. Now I just sleep all the time. And I do that anyways during the day at times, so its boring. Like 1/10 it sucks boring.

Taking this as a /in
right

Is my name Henry?
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If there's anything else that people want to ask/ remind us of then they're welcome to go ahead.

Hello Cal and NU, Welcome to the scene.
What are you currently in school for?
What would you say is your strongest part of your scum and town play style?
What do you struggle with?
Do you think you have what it takes to out-joke me?

I ensure you, that 57% of your answers will be considered.


1 - Health Science & Computer Science. I despise both, too many nerds in my classes.
2 - Scum play: Shitty all around. Town play: I tend to read players accurately.
3 - Persuading others of my accurate reads, not trolling, and not becoming salty post-game, zzz.
4 - Out-joke? Maybe not. Out-GIF? 100%.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-07 02:02:12
September 07 2016 02:00 GMT
#52
On September 07 2016 10:57 Damdred wrote:
I vouch for both of them in a mysterious way -waves hand like a ghost-

Noice.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 16:47 GMT
#88
Some site related questions before the game starts:

1. Is there a way to see how many times a player has posted in the thread?

2. Is there a feature that facilitates ISOing (Isolating X player's posts to strenghten a read)?

3. How do games usually start around here? RVS? Setup spec?

4. How do I change the number of posts per page? 20 posts/page is very little.

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 21:45 GMT
#114
I'm not sure how games are started here, so I will do some setup speculation.

The "Death Whisperer" is a heavy counter to TPRs.

+ Show Spoiler +
Death Whisperer
Win condition: Win anytime living mafia members equals or outnumbers living town members.

Ghost curse: Once per game at night, you can target one player.
If that person is protected by the benevolent ghosts' protection, he will die.
If that person is targeted by the spirit's KP, he will protected from it.
Death tracker: Spectral (can be used even if dead). If you successfully killed someone with your ghost curse, you will have access to the Benevolent Ghost QT after your death. You won't be able to post in it.
If you successfully protected someone with your ghost curse, you will have access to the Vengeful Spirit QT after your death. You won't be able to post in it.]



Using a TPR ability unwisely can backfire terribly if countered by the DW. Do you think TPRs should act every night?

If we ML today, the Vengeful spirit should not use his vigilante shot today as the DW will 100% target one of the three mafias. He has no reason to target townies as the Benevolent Ghost won't exist by then. Therefore, using the sole vigilante bullet N1 has the most chance of it going to waste. It is preferable to do an alignment check on any player and keep the shot for the following nights where the DW won't necessarily target a mafia.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:00 GMT
#126
On September 09 2016 06:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 06:37 Calix wrote:
It doesn't look like you guys do RVS and I don't relate to the few posts being made so far, so I'l just chip in with some thoughts on the setup. Not seeing anything particularly eye-popping aside from the following:

- Names aren't allowed in Last Wills but if you wanted to reference a player (e.g., say you're a Sheriff-Vig who wanted to say "I checked X/ this player is innocent/ guilty") then you could quote some post numbers by said player, quote something they said, etc. I don't think LWs will be that useful for the protectives unless nobody died on a certain night because telling the scum who was protected last night in the event of a kill just needlessly gives the scum information on what the healing roles are thinking. If anyone knows what the Doctor roles would even need to tell the town (aside from telling us who they scum-read or something) then I'm all ears.

- There's always the chance that the scum can interfere with the message being given. Although they can only rewrite LWs twice, we can't rely on the LWs much but I think it's good to establish a way for the dead townies to communicate with the rest of the thread because I'm not seeing a way that the scum manipulation of the LWs/ votes can be prevented.

- We might want to be careful with policy lynching apathetic/ inactive players or being sloppy with CFDs in general. I've been told that TL is more open to policy lynches compared to where I come from, but since lynched players become Sheriff-Vigs, I think it would be suboptimal play to give lazy players a KPN in the early stages. This point might be moot, however, as I don't know how anyone here plays or if anyone would qualify as policy-lynch material. (save for NU who I wouldn't consider a policy lynch)

Anyway, hi. It's pretty late for me so if I randomly drop off, don't be surprised.


Bolded seems like fluff tbh cause you don't seem to have any own ideas to contribute for this part.

"we have to find out what to do" . Who would've thought.

Your last point is also pretty uninformative. It's like you're suggesting not to lynch. Doesn't look as bad as your second though. But still.

You get a bit of benefit of the doubt for this being your first game here, but if somebody is meh for me right now it's you.


Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, but

To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.

She ends her post with an excuse to why she wouldn't post in the upcoming hours. It's something scum tends to do more, but it still is NAI.

Scum-reading Calix.

@Vivax, don't give me or her the benefit of the doubt because we're "new", we aren't. We're both familiar to mafia. Giving either of us (especially her) a chance, it could be all we need to fly under your radar.

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:02 GMT
#129
On September 09 2016 06:51 Skynx wrote:
New players: "Hmm I'm nervous about my entry post so lemme post some comments on game mechanics to be safe"



Where are you going with this? Do you scum-read us both? Posts without conclusions like this one aren't worth much.

On September 09 2016 06:46 Tictock wrote:
Aw shucks, my streak of rolling town has come to an end.

Guess I wont be posting much so I don't accidentally give you guys info.


Lel.

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:16 GMT
#132
On September 09 2016 07:05 Calix wrote:
Using the correct pronouns is not a scum tell and never will be. You just used it yourself in your last line because it's a common word in the English language.

Also seriously? You are aware that I moved to a different site to get AWAY from crappy meta reads and the first thing you do is give me shit via a crappy meta read?


It's a very mild scum tell and always will be.

Yes, I used it in my last line... in a different context. The "we" I used referred to you and me, not the town. Nice misrep attempt.

Ugh, I know, and I apologize. I won't use meta anymore. :3

In regards to your LW point: you stated that town should use surnames/quotes to refer to X player and then mentioned that scum can manipulate LWs. So you knew that what you were going to say wasn't going to be helpful for town anyways. Why did you feel the need to mention this?

What do you think of my first post?

How did you think that town had PRs before they were lynched?

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:21 GMT
#135
On September 09 2016 07:14 Shapelog wrote:
So....Your scum reading her, based off of (meta) pro-noun usage.


Incorrect. It's based off her fluff, her LW setup spec that didn't advantage town, and her misreading the setup.

The town roles are so straightforward, no town would think that there are PRs D1.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:26 GMT
#140
On September 09 2016 07:23 Damdred wrote:
@Never and calix

Since both of you are familiar with one another could you explain each other's scum/meta game slightly to us?


No. Calix came to this site NOT TO BE META-READ.

My scum meta is obvious -- if I am not confrontational in my posts, I am scum. Bam. That easy. That's why I'm a bad player: I can be read using meta only.

Also, Vivax hit the nail on the head in his last post. It described how I felt about Calix's LW spec.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:30 GMT
#143
On September 09 2016 07:25 Shapelog wrote:
Vivax point is good (or at least points out the inconsistent in agenda)
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 07:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 07:14 Shapelog wrote:
So....Your scum reading her, based off of (meta) pro-noun usage.


Incorrect. It's based off her fluff, her LW setup spec that didn't advantage town, and her misreading the setup.

The town roles are so straightforward, no town would think that there are PRs D1.

But you said the bold was NAI?
Show nested quote +
Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.


I can kinda understand the rest.


Yes, it's NAI in most setups. I just don't believe it can be a town slip in this particular setup.

My scum-read on Calix is not a strong one yet. It's mostly a gut read. I want her to respond to my posts and convince me she's town if she is.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:31 GMT
#145
On September 09 2016 07:29 Damdred wrote:
Damn never says I should scum read him for being confrontational.

I said the opposite, zzz.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:36 GMT
#148
[quote=Calix]Scum can only manipulate LWs twice. The game is going to go on for more than two nights. There is going to be at least one accurate LW in there, no?

Don't care to look.

Where did I imply this again? I forget.[/quote]

Stating the obvious.

Ugh, you're already pissing me off. Here it is:
On September 09 2016 06:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I'm not sure how games are started here, so I will do some setup speculation.

The "Death Whisperer" is a heavy counter to TPRs.

+ Show Spoiler +
Death Whisperer
Win condition: Win anytime living mafia members equals or outnumbers living town members.

Ghost curse: Once per game at night, you can target one player.
If that person is protected by the benevolent ghosts' protection, he will die.
If that person is targeted by the spirit's KP, he will protected from it.
Death tracker: Spectral (can be used even if dead). If you successfully killed someone with your ghost curse, you will have access to the Benevolent Ghost QT after your death. You won't be able to post in it.
If you successfully protected someone with your ghost curse, you will have access to the Vengeful Spirit QT after your death. You won't be able to post in it.]



Using a TPR ability unwisely can backfire terribly if countered by the DW. Do you think TPRs should act every night?

If we ML today, the Vengeful spirit should not use his vigilante shot today as the DW will 100% target one of the three mafias. He has no reason to target townies as the Benevolent Ghost won't exist by then. Therefore, using the sole vigilante bullet N1 has the most chance of it going to waste. It is preferable to do an alignment check on any player and keep the shot for the following nights where the DW won't necessarily target a mafia.


Your thoughts?

You implied this in your first post. You said: "Names aren't allowed in Last Wills but if you wanted to reference a player (e.g., say you're a Sheriff-Vig who wanted to say "I checked X/ this player is innocent/ guilty")"

"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:42 GMT
#151
On September 09 2016 07:35 Damdred wrote:
It was a joke never.

I think you can be town I do think you are harping on something that doesn't quite make calix scum in this situation though.

Now what do you think of vivax?


"It's a joke guise"

Maybe I'm off, maybe I'm biased because she's the only player I know. She hasn't done anything I can see worthy of being town-read, so I'm satisfied with my read so far. What are your thoughts on her?

I agree with the post he made about Calix's fluff, and I like that he is trying to scum-hunt unlike most players here. However, he did twist some of the things Calix said. Was it in an attempt to throw shade? Was it just a misrep? I don't know yet.

I will say that I do not like your slot. You've been sitting back, trying to read solely me and Calix, the new players, the low hanging fruits. You haven't tried to scum-hunt yet either, prefering to ask players some non-confrontational questions instead. Lean-scum.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:44 GMT
#155
On September 09 2016 07:35 Calix wrote:
No, moron. I'm not going to waste my time on 'convincing' you that I'm town. Nothing you said holds any weight. Go figure that I can't get a break from people scum-reading me for the worst reasons.

In any case, pretty sure you are town given your fixation on this 'scum tell' of mine. By all means continue to waste time asking 20 questions though until you wise the fuck up.


Why did this arouse me?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:48 GMT
#158
Calix:

You get a Sheriff-Vig when someone is lynched, yes? They can use their LW to say "I checked X". On N2, the next person to get lynched can say "X is inno/ guilty"


You do, but they cannot interact with the town anymore. They share a QT, yo. Their LW will be ones they had as Vanilla Townies.

Sorry for pissing you off :3
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:50 GMT
#159
On September 09 2016 07:46 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2016 07:30 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 07:25 Shapelog wrote:
Vivax point is good (or at least points out the inconsistent in agenda)
On September 09 2016 07:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On September 09 2016 07:14 Shapelog wrote:
So....Your scum reading her, based off of (meta) pro-noun usage.


Incorrect. It's based off her fluff, her LW setup spec that didn't advantage town, and her misreading the setup.

The town roles are so straightforward, no town would think that there are PRs D1.

But you said the bold was NAI?
Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI, To add to your point about her fluff: she used words like "we" -- Scum tend to use those words more than town to fit in the group. Scum!Calix uses "we" a lot.


I can kinda understand the rest.


Yes, it's NAI in most setups. I just don't believe it can be a town slip in this particular setup.

My scum-read on Calix is not a strong one yet. It's mostly a gut read. I want her to respond to my posts and convince me she's town if she is.

But....
Show nested quote +
Also, she infered that town had PRs before they were lynched which shows she didn't correctly read the setup. It's NAI,

You state the set up of this game. The fact she didn't read it. And concluded NAI.


I've already responded to this. Interpret my contradiction the way you like if my answer doesn't satisfy you.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
September 08 2016 22:56 GMT
#166
On September 09 2016 07:51 Damdred wrote:
I'm not understanding one of the reasons you scum read me. If I am trying to slow roll you and calix why do I town read both of you?


I get that, but why only me and her? Shapelog and Vivax have posted enough content for you to formulate a read on them and/or reply to their posts with a critical mindset to find the flaws in what they say. I do not like that you're keeping your posts to the new zoo exhibits.

That leaves me,with hideous and horrid options this early in the game. And why should I scum,hunt atm I have a nice town circle starting in my mind I'll,just lynch outside it today.


Why would you scum-hunt? Do I even have to reply here?

It's not a town circle if the players inside it don't town-read you.

But on a serious nite shape, I like my read as a formative step. Both of them have an f u attitude and a don't back down attitude, that we mainly see come from an t v t perspective this early,

Atm I think vivax, cal and never are town. And I want to like you shape so say something I love you long time for


And why are you town-reading Vivax?
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
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