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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 19:28 GMT
#42
sigh, /in
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 19 2016 22:35 GMT
#78
On April 20 2016 07:30 Koshi wrote:
My vote will be on the person who I think contributed the least and will be the hardest to read town in future days.


Thats a reasonable place to store your vote, but I think I'll just stick mine on scum : P
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 19 2016 22:40 GMT
#81
On April 20 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it.

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here!

[1]



Why do we have a better chance of hitting scum on hts rather than on anyone else?

what is this mod tyranny you speak of

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 19 2016 22:47 GMT
#83
I may not be able to do anything about wild hair mangrel trump (canadia here) but I can at least stop this mafia equivalent from getting his hooks into this beloved forum

##vote Damdred

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 19 2016 23:39 GMT
#93
On April 20 2016 08:00 DoYouHas wrote:
Huzzah, town this time.

It amuses me to see you all worried at the cap. To you it is a limit to be minded. To me it is a aspiration . You are all merely adopting low activity for a game. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see spam till I was nearly a man and by then it was naught to me but fluff.

-
Gumshoe is overplaying the jokes with Koshi and Damdred.


you assume I meant it as a joke : P

I didnt like how Damdred made an identical filler post twice,

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here
!

he then wasted a second post saying the same thing / :

Listen guys I just want to make Teamliquid great again.

A vote for hts is a vote for freedom.

I want to build a wall between this town and scum. So let's go.


I came into to this game looking for a specific kind of post from scum early. It would fill two cirterias.

1: it would be fluff (policy lynch)

2: it would be the kind of posts that draw in responses

drawing towns attention to a policy lynch based off joke reasons fits these 2 criteria, the goal of which is to burn posts from multiple townies concerning shit that is unreadable.

Also the serious questions in my first post to him are jokes, not because I meant them jokingly, but because the questions do not get meaningful answers, whereas the vote can actually get good responses.

so yeah, the vote was as series a vote as one can make on page 2 of a game of mafia.

the joke was a truth and the questions lead only to lies / :

also seeing damdred act a little forced at the start reminded me of this,

the reason I want to go is because I think playing with different players elsewhere will get me out of this laxy funk I am in to some degree.

It would force me to play against players who don't know my meta and where I can't skate by on reputation.

shrug its a bit just for me instead of the community and I won't stand in the way of koshi either and I'll try to just work through some of the things I've talked through with some people.


(his reasoning for wanting to go to champions) I figure his current mindset is pushing him to make bigger plays as ether faction than he would typically.

new section- why gumshoe is wrong.

1: How else are people supposed to get stuff rolling aside from filler?-answer- meh

2: Why would damdred sweep into defend you if hes scum? answer-wifom? Yeah does seem like that was a good opportunity to pounce.

3: why didnt you bring this all up right away? - wanted to see how people would respond. not disappointed.

4: Whats wrong with trying hard? you do it all the time (except when you dont) -answer- meh

5: arent you wrong like six times a game gumshoe? -answer- shut up, this heres the one, gonna catch em all day 1 : P

overall case stability-3/10
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 19 2016 23:46 GMT
#95
On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.


admittedly it's not a very good case on you / : I'm just gonna assume I was flat out wrong,

##unvote

You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


this is about the opportunism I was expecting / : but it's not very strong and it doesn't feel like hes baiting someone else in to come after me, just posting his feels.

slight townie read

(5)
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 20 2016 00:16 GMT
#98
On April 20 2016 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think the only alignment indicative thing so far is gumshoe acting like there's been anything alignment indicative so far.

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-_- bitch, you know how I am

speaking of overanalysis

I am only here to learn the ways of the low count poster. Well, I guess I am already failing, but w/e.

What is different between what I did, and what Gumshoe did?


I dont like how shape tries to bunch me and him together in turns of our posts. Likes hes defending himself through defending me, proxy wars op

slight scum lean.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 20 2016 17:58 GMT
#145
On April 21 2016 00:30 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 00:19 Half the Sky wrote:
5/40

FYI, yes I am (the lone) female in this game.

On April 20 2016 23:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Shape is dangerously close to a "disappointing answers" scumread.
HtS is throwing me off because he's (she's?) scumreading me and LS and those are the only two people I'm thinking are town so far. The arguments feel a bit stretched but so is everything at this stage. Null for now but will become a scumread if this continues.


Why is LS town?

Aside from (potentially) myself, and Shape as mentioned, as scumreads, Tumbleweed, why are you not townreading or leaning some of the others? Particularly Damdred, Koshi and Tictock and the content that they've produced?

At the very least I'm curious to hear on this. Are you actually scumreading anyone else?

Additionally, are you suggesting that how I am scumreading you is coming from a scum point of view?

I have never played with you before so that is what I tend to do with unfamiliar players if I find something questionable.

You shouldn't have to ask that question. You should already know. You even wrote about it on why you don't like tumble.
Show nested quote +
The comment on Lightning Strike was bad (and this is part of why I this LS could be mafia) - it is townreading LS for a poor reason. LS in the quoted statement says Tictock "blatantly" doesn't want to stir up discussion - Tictock may not want to post if he has nothing to contribute ESPECIALLY in a post-restricted game. So for him to take an NAI point and paint it as mafia indicative is poor, and by extension the townread is poor.


I finally get to do it before Gumshoe




you cunt, this will never be forgiven XD

Although I get a towny sentiment from Koshi, I also don't understand Koshi's scumreasoning for Fecalfeast, - I skimmed the latter's filter and I see a lot of the lazy Fecalfeast meta, I didn't understand Koshi's words about "town should be grilling sicklucker" when depending on the player it's not necessarily always the case, it was obvious to me that sicklucker was facetious. Additionally, Fecalfeast "not making a difference" is not necessarily exclusively mafia indicative for him. For the games I've played with him, he has both lazy town and mafia metas, but even in his lazy town meta, he will try and do something at some point. We're a bit early in the cycle to pass judgement IMO.

To sum it up, Fecalfeast could be mafia but not necessarily for that.

dis well written post.
I really like Hts atm, she seems to be really thinking through everything she sees in the thread and her posting style is well ordered and easy to read. If shes scum she going to be hard to catch as she seems competent regardless of alignment, even though I currently am feelings the towns / :

now, while I agree theres no real indication of fecal atm, I get a scumish feel from him / : but yeah feels are worth about as much as my jar of pennys.

six I thunk?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 20 2016 18:04 GMT
#146
On April 20 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it.

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here!

[1]


I also starting to think HTS is scum because she picking a easy target history wise in me and she just saw me play in cell as scum so if she is mafia she got a perfect opportunity to do it here.


this paranoia reads to me as townie as ls it shows ls is keeping games in the back of his mind as he plays. Which makes me think hes trying to improve as we speak, something scum tend to lack as scum tend to improve in alot of other different ways that have little to do with past games (better lunging, anti association, ect).
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 20 2016 18:18 GMT
#150
On April 21 2016 03:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
Although I get a towny sentiment from Koshi, I also don't understand Koshi's scumreasoning for Fecalfeast, - I skimmed the latter's filter and I see a lot of the lazy Fecalfeast meta, I didn't understand Koshi's words about "town should be grilling sicklucker" when depending on the player it's not necessarily always the case, it was obvious to me that sicklucker was facetious. Additionally, Fecalfeast "not making a difference" is not necessarily exclusively mafia indicative for him. For the games I've played with him, he has both lazy town and mafia metas, but even in his lazy town meta, he will try and do something at some point. We're a bit early in the cycle to pass judgement IMO.

To sum it up, Fecalfeast could be mafia but not necessarily for that.


Why is it well written? It are 5 lines saying absolutely nothing. And it has no sentiment behind it.

Why not say: "Koshi I think you are jumping the gun on FF, I have seen him play games as this town as well".

Instead you wrote all that. Which didn't help town anywhere.

It is a big pile of nothing. And one of her first posts? Really bad imo. Really looks like scum pretending to contribute.


cause it reads to me like her thought process as opposed to her conclusions 1: think kioshis town but dont get his read of f 2:checked through the other and saw him looking scummy 3: another point from koshi i dont agree with 4: seems like koshi is jumping the gun.

I think shes just putting down her thoughts in response to your read in the order that she thought them, makes her seem more transparent to me.

I am also not sure if I'm a fan of your trap door spider style this game, are you always this hyper vigilant or is this just a setup sensitive tac?

That said I dont like this bit from tic as well

Koshi and SL are both underwhelming to me atm, but meh.


in your case, you've made it clear your trying to pounce, regardless of what that means seems kind of silly to read you as underwhelming for a strategic choice -_-
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 20 2016 19:30 GMT
#154
On April 21 2016 04:05 Koshi wrote:
I understand that you could be town and do the things the way you did as town.

But I don't understand why.

1) I put pressure on FF.
2) You say 5 lines about FF that say NOTHING AT ALL. DOES NOT FURTHER THE GAME AT ALL. TAKES PRESSURE AWAY FROM FF. And just undermines my pressure.
3) You do this for no apparent good reason because you are completely null on FF.


at this juncture people are offering thier thoughts on everyone and everything, not everyone is playing as guarded and deliberate as you koshi. (Ironically your poise is actually drawing attention /

Oh and no ones stopping you from pressuring ff, nor does anyone owe you an obligation to let you do so.



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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 21:35 GMT
#290
Haro,

town reads.

Lstrike/thor(voice I read posts/virp)

Seems like a lot of genuine effort put into things and people are saying hes not usually like that so from my personal exp thats a big sign of town. In terms of what hes done, picking a fight with hts seems unideal, regardless of his reasons, I would expect him to have an underdog facet going on with her as scum (killed before by her) the aggro doesnt really make sense unless he is genuinely paranoid/worried.

Damdred(starlord)

as I said earlier, would have expected him to pounce on me for what was a terrible case, I am also far far from the best player here so theres not much point.

I actively expect both townies and scummers to accuse me based off my play so far, but I dont see much point in town reading me.

Hts - (Magonigal)
same opinion as before, feels transparent and makes fair points. Dont think shes right about ls though

koshi (shelob)
Still not entirely sure what to make of him, but he is an active driving force and his role back on hts feels like a townie thing to do(ie scum would feel pressured to keep beating dead horses)

Shapelog(pickard)

seems happy and also confused/curios good townie mindset. I can follow his reasoning and I agree with his tt scum read.

gb (frank reynolds)

Last game we played dude was defined by low activity and calling me scum, hes keeping pace with my expectations.

------------------------------

end of town

---------------------

scum TICK TOCK (shibukai)

first attacks dyh for nitpicking me, (while finding kosh underwhelming for derp reasons)

hes initial list of scummers is just a great big pile of lurkers

then after dyh gets town read a bunch he comes back onto me even though little has changed since he trd me.

This kind of double backing feels like hes looking for whatever to murder. He also scum reads ls which puts him in mah bad books.

##vote tick tock


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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 21:38 GMT
#293
everyone else is null for me, I could lynch ff for his wasted post style but honestly 40 posts winded up bieng plenty it seems so that argument kinda doesnt matter unless some ones a total derp. Not sure anyones gonna hit the cap this round / :

I am also not commenting on anyone else cause I dont have voices for them yet.

Dyh seems like town on a cursory look.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 21:44 GMT
#301
On April 22 2016 06:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 06:35 gumshoe wrote:
Haro,

town reads.

Lstrike/thor(voice I read posts/virp)

Seems like a lot of genuine effort put into things and people are saying hes not usually like that so from my personal exp thats a big sign of town. In terms of what hes done, picking a fight with hts seems unideal, regardless of his reasons, I would expect him to have an underdog facet going on with her as scum (killed before by her) the aggro doesnt really make sense unless he is genuinely paranoid/worried.

Damdred(starlord)

as I said earlier, would have expected him to pounce on me for what was a terrible case, I am also far far from the best player here so theres not much point.

I actively expect both townies and scummers to accuse me based off my play so far, but I dont see much point in town reading me.

Hts - (Magonigal)
same opinion as before, feels transparent and makes fair points. Dont think shes right about ls though

koshi (shelob)
Still not entirely sure what to make of him, but he is an active driving force and his role back on hts feels like a townie thing to do(ie scum would feel pressured to keep beating dead horses)

Shapelog(pickard)

seems happy and also confused/curios good townie mindset. I can follow his reasoning and I agree with his tt scum read.

gb (frank reynolds)

Last game we played dude was defined by low activity and calling me scum, hes keeping pace with my expectations.

------------------------------

end of town

---------------------

scum TICK TOCK (shibukai)

first attacks dyh for nitpicking me, (while finding kosh underwhelming for derp reasons)

hes initial list of scummers is just a great big pile of lurkers

then after dyh gets town read a bunch he comes back onto me even though little has changed since he trd me.

This kind of double backing feels like hes looking for whatever to murder. He also scum reads ls which puts him in mah bad books.

##vote tick tock




I do like this post the scum read feels slightly omgus but the town reads sort of make sense and if he gets lynched and is scum gives us a lot of info when he doesn't have to.

He's pretty town for this.


My issue with tick is not that he accused me, it's that he first town read me and then scum read me for what was kind of the same content. Maybe he just didn't read throughly the first time but his pounce followed by double back reads to me as hunting for fault.

Also sick is now doc holiday. We may now lynch him if there is no better target, I am used to far more activity from him and he seems a bit more defensive/reserved then usual
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 22:01 GMT
#320
Sl should have posted more by now / : for..... Reasons I am not supposed to say exist.

Could kill ff as he's been active but lack luster but that is apparently his meta so watcha gonna do.

I probably won't lynch outside those 2 plus tick for today.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 22:04 GMT
#325
On April 22 2016 07:01 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 06:44 gumshoe wrote:
On April 22 2016 06:39 Damdred wrote:
On April 22 2016 06:35 gumshoe wrote:
Haro,

town reads.

Lstrike/thor(voice I read posts/virp)

Seems like a lot of genuine effort put into things and people are saying hes not usually like that so from my personal exp thats a big sign of town. In terms of what hes done, picking a fight with hts seems unideal, regardless of his reasons, I would expect him to have an underdog facet going on with her as scum (killed before by her) the aggro doesnt really make sense unless he is genuinely paranoid/worried.

Damdred(starlord)

as I said earlier, would have expected him to pounce on me for what was a terrible case, I am also far far from the best player here so theres not much point.

I actively expect both townies and scummers to accuse me based off my play so far, but I dont see much point in town reading me.

Hts - (Magonigal)
same opinion as before, feels transparent and makes fair points. Dont think shes right about ls though

koshi (shelob)
Still not entirely sure what to make of him, but he is an active driving force and his role back on hts feels like a townie thing to do(ie scum would feel pressured to keep beating dead horses)

Shapelog(pickard)

seems happy and also confused/curios good townie mindset. I can follow his reasoning and I agree with his tt scum read.

gb (frank reynolds)

Last game we played dude was defined by low activity and calling me scum, hes keeping pace with my expectations.

------------------------------

end of town

---------------------

scum TICK TOCK (shibukai)

first attacks dyh for nitpicking me, (while finding kosh underwhelming for derp reasons)

hes initial list of scummers is just a great big pile of lurkers

then after dyh gets town read a bunch he comes back onto me even though little has changed since he trd me.

This kind of double backing feels like hes looking for whatever to murder. He also scum reads ls which puts him in mah bad books.

##vote tick tock




I do like this post the scum read feels slightly omgus but the town reads sort of make sense and if he gets lynched and is scum gives us a lot of info when he doesn't have to.

He's pretty town for this.


My issue with tick is not that he accused me, it's that he first town read me and then scum read me for what was kind of the same content. Maybe he just didn't read throughly the first time but his pounce followed by double back reads to me as hunting for fault.

Also sick is now doc holiday. We may now lynch him if there is no better target, I am used to far more activity from him and he seems a bit more defensive/reserved then usual


I did pretty clearly state that I was rereading the game and stuff...

At the start of the game I liked that you were putting out what felt like a lot of content. Reading it again it wasn't nearly as much as you backtracked off stuff as fast as you put it out there (re: your damdred case where you made like 5-6 points as to why it was bad in the same post you defended your vote not being a joke...)

Kinda uneasy now as well since you are just now showing up after quite a long absence for the last ~hr of the day and after there was the signs that maybe a wagon could get going on you.


Eh, I posted yesterday I did my time

I understand your presentation as to why you changed your mind on me, I just don't quite bilieve it as this is a game about you know, lyng.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 22:14 GMT
#344
I kinda get the feel sl doesn't care about this game, normally when you have scum mates your kinda invested / : as you let down your team when you scrub it up.

Ff is the better choice methinks.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 22:16 GMT
#348
On April 22 2016 07:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 07:14 gumshoe wrote:
I kinda get the feel sl doesn't care about this game, normally when you have scum mates your kinda invested / : as you let down your team when you scrub it up.

Ff is the better choice methinks.

Then why are you voting for SL?????????????????????????????????


Mistake XD,
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 22:19 GMT
#353
On April 22 2016 07:17 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 07:14 gumshoe wrote:
I kinda get the feel sl doesn't care about this game, normally when you have scum mates your kinda invested / : as you let down your team when you scrub it up.

Ff is the better choice methinks.


How come you are not pushing me?


Cause it's not happening, and my day is shit anyways so maybe that's for the best. also my cp is kinda fucked up so posting this all from phone, I don't feel cozy really pushing someone without quotes and time stamps.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 22:27 GMT
#380
On April 22 2016 07:22 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 07:19 gumshoe wrote:
On April 22 2016 07:17 Tictock wrote:
On April 22 2016 07:14 gumshoe wrote:
I kinda get the feel sl doesn't care about this game, normally when you have scum mates your kinda invested / : as you let down your team when you scrub it up.

Ff is the better choice methinks.


How come you are not pushing me?


Cause it's not happening, and my day is shit anyways so maybe that's for the best. also my cp is kinda fucked up so posting this all from phone, I don't feel cozy really pushing someone without quotes and time stamps.


And yet you joined the SL wagon and now the FF wagon without either of those while you seemed to return to the game with a scumread on me...

Feels like you are being pretty opportunistic here and just going with the flow rather than pursing your own thoughts and reads.


Sl wagon join was an accident XD phone fingers are on auto pilot

Also I'm not bieng opportunistic, I'm bieng realistic. You have been far more active then me, regardless of alignment your playing a better game honestly ATM, and I can't use qoutes and shit on this thing. So yeah, I don't really feel like screaming tick rock is mafia impotently till flip. Better to lend my weight to whichever said I think has a higher chance of red. After, all there is more than one scum.
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