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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 17 2016 18:00 GMT
#29
/in
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 20 2016 01:08 GMT
#102
OHAI
I'm town

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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
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April 20 2016 01:09 GMT
#103
On April 20 2016 08:17 sicklucker wrote:
I will not be numbering my posts I like to live on the edge.

dandred for blatantly wasting posts


Did you just say Damdred is NULL because he is wasting posts?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 20 2016 01:44 GMT
#105
Are you being serious right now SL?

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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 20 2016 17:11 GMT
#142
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Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 20 2016 23:04 GMT
#205
On April 21 2016 02:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 01:48 Koshi wrote:
Pure on guts I am inclined to believe LS over HTS. Rereading HTS her posts I somehow can see it coming from scum because it is pretty emotionless and at points over explained.

I also have a feeling that she can't or won't commit on a read on FF and hides after a lot of words and "lazy meta can go both ways"


I am also thinking I like Tumble his last post. That actually sounds like townie reasoning.


So I actually am more inclined to lynch HtS over FF atm but I am going to stick on FF.


I could comment on more things I think but I don't want to be the driving force behind any conversation.

Like this post but mostly because it affirms what I was already saying. Why don't you want to be the driving force behind conversation?
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On April 21 2016 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:
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Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective

Also like this post, GB gets to be a townlean for now. Solid, original insight.



Sorry, people don't simply bold to vote. They put double hashtags.
I didn't see that post from SL.

Yes I have some weak townreads on Damdred and DYH. I was writing a post on it but I'll do it later in a big catch-up post. I am currently busy. Wednesdays aren't really the best days to play mafia
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 20 2016 23:08 GMT
#206
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Oops, wrong quotation. It was supposed to be the post where HTS is putting a finger of suspicion on me.

Shapelog also said something about ignoring Tumblewood. I ignored because I simply don't trust he can possibly know what SL was thinking. It is simple as that.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 00:22 GMT
#209
On April 21 2016 08:27 Shapelog wrote:
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On April 21 2016 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:
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Oops, wrong quotation. It was supposed to be the post where HTS is putting a finger of suspicion on me.

Shapelog also said something about ignoring Tumblewood. I ignored because I simply don't trust he can possibly know what SL was thinking. It is simple as that.

What? "Shape said something about ignoring tumblewood, I ignored b/c he can't know what SL was thinking?"
I don't understand GB...

I said that it's easier for me to read Tumble as the game progresses. Idk where SL comes in here.


Slightly sus. after a dive on damdred. Mostly for a small contradiction lol.
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On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum.

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On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote:
And this is different than every other game how?

Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow.

It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately.

I don't understand the process of: "Scum likes wasting posts" -> "Ls, your overusing posts [...] (FF)" -> "this is different than every other game how?" Kinda nickpicky though I admit.


Also, I will be back (posting wise) later tonight.

[11 prob.]


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I am probably mistaking posts, I have to play when I have time only l
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 16:06 GMT
#239
How much time do we have until deadline?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 18:01 GMT
#252
Unfortunately I'm busier than I thought I'd be. So I won't be playing today. I'm sorry.
I'm town, again. Please don't make the same mistake you guys have been doing these latest 3 games I was in.

I'm voting with Damdred because he is my strongest townread atm
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
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April 21 2016 18:04 GMT
#253
I know the case on SL isn't the strongest. Although I think his attitude was suspicious, I only wanted to keep developing discussion. I also like to push a target in a way everything is explained in details, whatever slignment he is, because I think mafia has a hard time covering all aspects of their stories. Regardless if a post is NAI or AI, a hard push will almost always reveal inconsistencies if the player's intention is made up
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
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April 21 2016 18:05 GMT
#254
WOW what a horrible spread. I think I'll try to put some effort while I have these 15 minutes to spare. Brb
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 18:26 GMT
#257
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Damdred

On April 20 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it.

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here!

[1]


Awkward jokes from Damdred gives me scumvibes. Yet, this is illogical so I will just put this as NAI. Still, it's relevant for me to say I don't like this opening.

On April 20 2016 08:16 Damdred wrote:
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On April 20 2016 08:11 DoYouHas wrote:
You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


This is actually a towny type thought dyh Ca do the town pile for now.

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Same reaction I had to DYH post, which makes me think Damdred is likely to be town.

On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.


Again, same reaction as me. Damdred is most likely town.

DoYouHas
On April 20 2016 08:11 DoYouHas wrote:
You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


This post stroke me as town. I like the analysis DYH, it felt genuine and it's actually an okay suspicion.

- LightningStrike

On April 20 2016 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:
I finally got my prayers answered by RNGJesus and it got me town for the first time in a Lex game. I do fin the vote by gum kinda weird due to his reasoning. His rerasonig is pretty saying he doesn't want a Donald Trump in this game although I don't blame it might happen :\


I don't like this post from LS because it's clearly he got it was a joke from Damdred, then gumshoe's vote must also be a vote. It shouldn't be suspicious. Leaning scum.

On April 20 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.

I was just being blunt on what I thought thought Gumshoe had said and I was making it a tiny bit of a fun joke because I hate trump myself but his supporters are even worse :\
Anyways Gumshoe is likely town based on my only game playing with him in Storm with his style of posting matching his style of posting here. I really don't think a scum gumshoe would vote anyone this early in the game and breaking down a case like that.


Wow, suddenly gumshoe is likely town. After you were suspicious of his vote. A quick shift from the original suspicion. I don't like it.

On April 20 2016 09:43 LightningStrike wrote:
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On April 20 2016 09:32 Tictock wrote:
Oh cool, this started already.

I'll check in later when there is stuff to read.

kinda dislike this post because he blatantly doesn't want to stir up discussion.


Nitpicking. You're mafia.

- gumshoe
On April 20 2016 08:39 gumshoe wrote:
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On April 20 2016 08:00 DoYouHas wrote:
Huzzah, town this time.

It amuses me to see you all worried at the cap. To you it is a limit to be minded. To me it is a aspiration . You are all merely adopting low activity for a game. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see spam till I was nearly a man and by then it was naught to me but fluff.

-
Gumshoe is overplaying the jokes with Koshi and Damdred.


you assume I meant it as a joke : P

I didnt like how Damdred made an identical filler post twice,

Show nested quote +
I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here
!

he then wasted a second post saying the same thing / :

Show nested quote +
Listen guys I just want to make Teamliquid great again.

A vote for hts is a vote for freedom.

I want to build a wall between this town and scum. So let's go.


I came into to this game looking for a specific kind of post from scum early. It would fill two cirterias.

1: it would be fluff (policy lynch)

2: it would be the kind of posts that draw in responses

drawing towns attention to a policy lynch based off joke reasons fits these 2 criteria, the goal of which is to burn posts from multiple townies concerning shit that is unreadable.

Also the serious questions in my first post to him are jokes, not because I meant them jokingly, but because the questions do not get meaningful answers, whereas the vote can actually get good responses.

so yeah, the vote was as series a vote as one can make on page 2 of a game of mafia.

the joke was a truth and the questions lead only to lies / :

also seeing damdred act a little forced at the start reminded me of this,

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the reason I want to go is because I think playing with different players elsewhere will get me out of this laxy funk I am in to some degree.

It would force me to play against players who don't know my meta and where I can't skate by on reputation.

shrug its a bit just for me instead of the community and I won't stand in the way of koshi either and I'll try to just work through some of the things I've talked through with some people.


(his reasoning for wanting to go to champions) I figure his current mindset is pushing him to make bigger plays as ether faction than he would typically.

new section- why gumshoe is wrong.

1: How else are people supposed to get stuff rolling aside from filler?-answer- meh

2: Why would damdred sweep into defend you if hes scum? answer-wifom? Yeah does seem like that was a good opportunity to pounce.

3: why didnt you bring this all up right away? - wanted to see how people would respond. not disappointed.

4: Whats wrong with trying hard? you do it all the time (except when you dont) -answer- meh

5: arent you wrong like six times a game gumshoe? -answer- shut up, this heres the one, gonna catch em all day 1 : P

overall case stability-3/10


Clearly a post to get discussion going. Town points.

On April 20 2016 08:46 gumshoe wrote:
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On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.


admittedly it's not a very good case on you / : I'm just gonna assume I was flat out wrong,

##unvote
Show nested quote +

You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


this is about the opportunism I was expecting / : but it's not very strong and it doesn't feel like hes baiting someone else in to come after me, just posting his feels.

slight townie read

(5)


Bad backtracking. Do you want or you don't want to have discussion ongoing? It makes me feel you actually wanted to justify your vote to LS instead of just pushing a discussion further. Townie points taken away. Null leaning to scum.

On April 20 2016 09:16 gumshoe wrote:
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On April 20 2016 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think the only alignment indicative thing so far is gumshoe acting like there's been anything alignment indicative so far.

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-_- bitch, you know how I am

speaking of overanalysis

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I am only here to learn the ways of the low count poster. Well, I guess I am already failing, but w/e.

What is different between what I did, and what Gumshoe did?


I dont like how shape tries to bunch me and him together in turns of our posts. Likes hes defending himself through defending me, proxy wars op

slight scum lean.


Is this a joke? If it is a joke, you're wasting posts, something you called Damdred out for. Now if you're trying to develop discussion, you're just throwing suspicons everywhere, which isn't really great to be honest. One thing is to find something weak and suspicious and push it mostly for the sake of discussion. Other thing is to put suspicions everywhere, which is really easy to do as mafia. I don't like you in this game, gumshoe :/

- Tumblewood

On April 20 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote:
Shape, why did you use Damdred's obvious joke as an opportunity to discuss plynches? I know that he mentioned them, but your post was a non sequitur still. Please explain.


I like this questioning very much. Townie points.


This is the best I could do. It's from the very beginning of the game. I couldn't go further.

Basically, from what I've read, I'm at this point:

Damdred
DYH
Tumblewood


gumshoe
LightningStrike


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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 18:28 GMT
#258
On April 22 2016 03:07 Shapelog wrote:
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On April 22 2016 03:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Unfortunately I'm busier than I thought I'd be. So I won't be playing today. I'm sorry.
I'm town, again. Please don't make the same mistake you guys have been doing these latest 3 games I was in.

I'm voting with Damdred because he is my strongest townread atm

NO! YOU WILL NOT PULL A GOD DAMM DAMDRED BOMB (AND VOTE WITH DAMDRED FOR MAX. BM) ON ME!

Ok your busy, can you Please Explain the DYH and Damdred reads and any other reads you have.

Do not do this to me dwag!

[16prob.]



I've started the catch up. All the reasoning is in the spoilers.

Damdred townread is basically because he has the same vision of the game as me, usually, which makes him probably town.
DYH townread was because of that post that felt genuine. But it is a weak townread, I must say. After that, there was nothing memorable from him.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 18:54 GMT
#259
On April 20 2016 18:22 Tictock wrote:
I guess I should have expected a slow start in a post restrictive game.



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On April 20 2016 08:11 DoYouHas wrote:
You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


This feels kinda nitpicky and more a narrative you are projecting on what Gum did than what actually happened



LS is a bit interesting, he's half joking but a bit too serious for the start of the game imo.

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On April 20 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.

I was just being blunt on what I thought thought Gumshoe had said and I was making it a tiny bit of a fun joke because I hate trump myself but his supporters are even worse :\
Anyways Gumshoe is likely town based on my only game playing with him in Storm with his style of posting matching his style of posting here. I really don't think a scum gumshoe would vote anyone this early in the game and breaking down a case like that.


He goes into defensive mode here pretty quick, and his stance on Gum does a 180 here. (He said his vote was weird before, but here he says scum!Gum prob wouldn't vote anyone this early) Though tbf Gum did make a WoT post between then, still kinda a sudden flop.

LS also way overuses that pic of the guy smoking a blunt in tinfoil, which I only mention kus it kinda bugs me... even if it's a good tinfoil pic.




Koshi and SL are both underwhelming to me atm, but meh.




Shape has me slightly worried due to the way he's setting up a posting style for himself. Prob not a good way to explain it.




I like Gum for the amount of content he's putting out and for having similar thoughts to my own.

That's about all I got for the moment. Well at least all I feel like sharing atm.


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Here TT notices the same thing as me on LS. He also seems to be thinking critically about every person in the game. Makes me feel he is most likely town. A weak read, but a town one
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 18:59 GMT
#260
On April 20 2016 18:58 Koshi wrote:
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On April 20 2016 18:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think it's weird for everyone to have so many reads so early in the game, to be honest. It's tempting to townread everyone who's doing things right away but really anyone could give an opinion on everyone that's posted with sofew posts actually saying anything.


Basically a long winded way of saying IDK maybe town?


5 btw

Well. With limited posts people push out reads harder because they want other people to react on them and confirm their suspicion, or just pressure people with the reads, or further the game and spark discussion.

It's a good thing.

Also hard reading people town forces mafia to do shit because they might feel antsy if it is true.



tldr: I also wont lynch TT before I have at least 1 good reason to townread everybody else. That post was really good and set the bar high for everybody to follow.



I also townread Damdred for starting the game.


I dislike both LS and Shape. Doesn't mean they are mafia but their entrance was weak. But town can enter weak if they pick it up. Shape ending his 5 fluff posts with a pretty unimportant question and then fucking off for x hours is bad. LS is trying but not making waves.


I have issues with this post:
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On April 20 2016 10:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
Aw shit I agree with sicklucker I must be broken

Sounds townie but could so easily be made by mafia. Just like most post you make are pure reactionary and controlling. I don't remember you as somebody who is controlling the thread.


I dislike this post from Koshi. He points out problems with LS and Shape but doesn't conclude nothing from it. Then he proceeds to vote... Ta-da! Fecalfeast.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 22:28 GMT
#383
This lunch is obviously not hitting mafia
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GlowingBear
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Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 22:48 GMT
#407
On April 22 2016 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Meh. Should have went for HtS instead. Oh well.


You're probably a good lynch tomorrow, it should be glaringly obvious to you that FF was going to flip town.

It was obvious for me, who wasn't even reading the game. I finally was able to take a look at the thread and I saw through it. You should also
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GlowingBear
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April 21 2016 22:53 GMT
#409
On April 22 2016 07:38 Damdred wrote:
Because you were the only on and gb I believe who were actively bad,mouthing the lynch without doing Jack shit basically.

All of you solo voters were anti town at best.


I'm trying to not be hot headed and call you mafia for this. Instead I'm trying to believe you can be this hypocritical as town
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April 21 2016 23:17 GMT
#414
On April 22 2016 08:00 sicklucker wrote:
Its true tho. There was alot of off voters that had no interest in voting hts me ls or any other realistic wagon at the time. Cant really complain gb if you did nothing to stop it


I was here merely one minute before deadline. How do you expect me to do stuff?

I've said why I thought LS was mafia and voted him.

And Damdred, it isn't a matter of reading the game, it is a matter of looking at a vote count and KNOW it won't hit mafia. It simply wasn't.
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