EPTOn February 10 2016 07:22 rsoultin wrote:
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playing my low post-count (i.e. lazy) way ^^
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playing my low post-count (i.e. lazy) way ^^
things I do not believe:
this
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Eden1892
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On February 12 2016 09:12 Damdred wrote: Please do not turn the post game into a bm fight. /out for this brazen prejudice against Bill Murray. | ||
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Pixie -- looks like a doctor. Teddie -- apparently a vet, Damdred apparently got tired of trying to dress up what the roles were. Heat -- a vig Serph and Sera -- masons? hell yeah! Depressed Students -- millers for the cop Lucifer -- godfather/ninja/etc. Jenna Angel -- rb Nyarlathotep -- what a weird way to describe the framer lol. kinda neat. Shadow -- goon I have a strong feeling we have a Raidou in the game, that RNG check to determine which investigative role is being used is too unique not to be in here. Baseless mod setup spec but I believe it. The rest looks pretty standard issue. I think any miller(s) should probably claim right away to take away the option for the mafia to use claiming miller as counterplay for a cop check. | ||
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On February 16 2016 06:02 Damdred wrote: The End of The World: Day 1 The world has ended, but all is not lost. "I don't pay attention to the world ending. It has ended for me many times, and began again in the morning." Let's get to it. Any particular objections to millers claiming? | ||
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Early guess that rsoultin is town off of tone of post. I put a lot less stock in this than I would have last year, since there's been plenty of time for her to emulate her posting style as mafia, and I recall her starting to do so anyway before I went on sabbatical. But for the moment I still consider it reason to give a cautious town read. | ||
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On February 16 2016 08:23 Tictock wrote: Millers are aware in this game? Odd, but yea they should claim. Not a fan of the rest of the role speculation though. Well, the only other thing I said was admittedly baseless, so I would hope you aren't. Have we played before? Your name looks familiar. | ||
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On February 16 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote: Damm, I did not roll scum. Saddness.... So has the spawn of Satan done anything on theme with the game? miller softclaim noted | ||
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On February 16 2016 09:04 sicklucker wrote: I think eden is scum for posting setup speculation and im happy others do too =] Why do you think posting setup speculation is suspicious? | ||
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On February 16 2016 09:48 Tictock wrote: This is pretty much what I've been thinking as well. If anyone cares... + Show Spoiler [Post I liked] + On February 16 2016 08:55 Trfel wrote: I would really like to know what Palmar finds suspicious about Breshke, I'm not seeing anything near a 100% suspicion. That said, Breshke... What do you think about sicklucker so far? Particularly his first post, since it drew a lot of attention, but you didn't comment on it. Anyway, I do feel that Palmar is very likely to be town because of meta. As mafia, Palmar doesn't push people in this way. And yes, I still feel comfortable with this read even before seeing the reasons or the followup. This is a really towny post IMO. Trfel is throwing out an odd townread on someone who is kinda playing like lynchbait (and even backs up the meta-read fairly well in a followup post) while questioning their reads and trying to get further reaction from Bre. Cool, that's like 4 townreads right there. Ezy Game. Which is the fourth? (presuming you're referring to me/Trfel/Shapelog based on your post for three of them) | ||
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On February 16 2016 10:10 sicklucker wrote: I want to know it when im mafia . when im town I do not care Want to know what? You're not making any sense. | ||
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On February 16 2016 10:12 Trfel wrote: You posted a question? Oh, I thought it was rhetorical. I obviously disagree. Power roles can play their own roles, they don't need someone to direct them. The point isn't the setup speculation, that's not alignment indicative. I can't see how Eden as town could care so much about his setup speculation and not care about anything else. Where do you get the impression that I "care so much about [my] setup speculation and not care about anything else"? I wouldn't characterize my play that way at all, and I don't understand why you do, either. | ||
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On February 16 2016 10:02 Tictock wrote: Palmar, though I'm mostly trusting in Trfel's meta read on him. Personally I was holding off trying to read Palmar till he'd posted more. ah okay. So it's really three town reads and a trust-Trfel's-townreading read? That's reasonable enough I guess. | ||
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On February 16 2016 10:56 Tictock wrote: Ok I was writting a post about how I sorta agreed that Trfel might have a point about Eden disengaging, got distracted by the offering of soup, then come back to find Eden posting. So I'm just gunna take that as a sign that it's time to take a break, and hopefully have more to read after my Raid. Oh also there was some thought about how almost everyone has posted (everyone but GB, impressive) but there has been no miller claims. So I think it's a safe assumption there are none? Trfel wouldn't have a point even if I hadn't come back and posted more. He claimed that I was "disengaged" from the thread because I only gave one clear read within the first few hours of day 1, in a thread where very few people, in my estimation, have done anything alignment-indicative. Frankly, his accusation sucks. I had a very clear direction with my early posting: as I always do, I analyzed what we knew of the setup and set about trying to construct the best game state for us by proposing that millers claim, for reasons already explained. Everyone that's bothered to chime in directly on the idea itself so far has said it is a good idea. Trfel ignored the proposal and misrepresented my posting as being overly focused on setup at the expense of giving reads, at a point in the game where reads worth sharing are hard to come by. I had some more stuff to develop the lack of miller claims (on the assumption there won't be any, running with your suggestion), but I doubt that information helps town (it's either incorrect or it possibly contributes to mafia planning how to play around town PRs), so I'm not going to discuss it. | ||
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On February 16 2016 10:53 rsoultin wrote: for those of you slow on the uptake, sl posted his diary entries after truffle asked someone else to run point on being "scummy" enough to get reactions. not really sure that the actual reactions mean scum, tbh, cause townies are dumb all the time, but yeah I find it hard to argue conclusively that sicklucker's initial posting was coming from town reaction testing. I didn't really think anything of it either way -- what did you see in it that I don't, such that you think it makes him town? | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:17 rsoultin wrote: i don't see that it makes him town i do see that, regardless of his alignment, it prob was in response to truffle's post, especially since he then went on to get reads from people's reactions Never mind, I went back and reread Trfel's initial post, and my interpretation of what you were proposing doesn't make sense // isn't very useful/relevant. With that said, what is sicklucker's alignment? | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:23 sicklucker wrote: How could she know? Instead of worrying about that, why don't you go clarify what you said to me earlier? I still don't understand what you were trying to say about setup spec being suspicious. | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:25 sicklucker wrote: It was plain english. Towns dont really care about that stuff they want to find scum. Power roles especially wont bring it up in thread. Mafia needs things to talk about so they sure will It was plain, incorrect English, you said "it" with no modifier and plugging in "setup speculation" didn't make sense to me. And who says townies don't care about that stuff? This is just a bunch of useless axiomatic posturing. I've already figured out a simple play for any millers in our game to make that cuts off a potential out for mafia who get caught by a possible cop in the game, which as far as I can see, has no drawback to make. If townies don't care about that stuff, then they're playing incorrectly. Setup minutia can go a long way toward deciding the outcome of a game, and I want those minutia in my corner as much as possible. | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:27 Trfel wrote: @rsoultin: I've described my meta read on Palmar before, in games where you've played. It's pretty simple. I described it here, too, in my post. What about that explanation do you not understand? My read on Palmar has been pretty good over the last several games by observing this trend. @Eden: I described using both quotes and explanations why I characterize your play as I did. @All: Look at how Eden started the game in his last two games as town. Both times, he was direct and to the point with insight and reads to get things going. Here, he's been all over the place. Instead of an early scumread or push to get the game started, there's "I want the miller to claim, does anyone disagree?" It's completely different and lacks direction. Eden has felt more involved since, but he still hasn't been doing anything, it feels like he is reacting instead of making things happen. Maybe there's something to do with his time of entrance to the thread, though, I'll check. But you didn't. You quoted me and then asserted your same descriptions over and over. I was direct and to the point in this game as well. If anything I was more direct than normal, I just dumped my Notepad scribbles about the roles without bothering to format it like I normally would. It so happens that this time, I checked into a game and didn't see anything that caught my eye as far as alignment goes, except for something weak on rsoultin, which I immediately noted. What exactly is "all over the place" about repeating the same line of argument and calling town's attention to it? How does that display a lack of focus? And how is it that you go from arguing that I'm overly focused on setup spec to arguing that my posting isn't focused enough? You're just making things up as you go along. | ||
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