On December 01 2015 08:37 Rels wrote:
Yo.

If you're boxer you fucking shut up. There is two possible mafia setups: one with two possible town setups with one boxer each so it doesn't matter. And one when we have either boxer + vet, or cop + vig. In that last case, mafia wants to roleblock their kill target in the vet setup, or roleblock someone else on the cop + vig setup.
Boxer claiming would make them know what is the thing to do.

Tldr if you're boxer you shut up unless you're getting lynched.
Tldr 2 the two people pushing for boxer to claim are suspicious. Damdred and doyouhas

Tell me more about what mafia do, mafia.
Vote

kushm4sta

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December 01 2015 02:40 GMT

#256

Shining looking like a decent d1 lynch I guess. Reasoning is that if Palmer called me 100 percent scum I'd be like lol.
Instead he doth protest too much,

kushm4sta

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December 01 2015 17:45 GMT

#381

Yes I use my own experience as scum to predict how other people will act as scum. But actually I was accusing him of a standard scumtell, over defense.

Don't put too much stock in what I say, because I don't have any sort of handle on this game so far. I am looking forward to playing in a few days after the herd has been thinned.

My vote stays on Rels for now. Probably he isn't scum but maybe he is and on my phone it takes a lot of effort to change my vote.

kushm4sta

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December 01 2015 18:05 GMT

#383

Disinformation, I'm so scared of your vote that I will try super hard from now on.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 12:27 GMT

#475

Some consolidation would be nice. That way we could get a claim well before deadline.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 17:26 GMT

#492

If I was attracted to towniness, I would want to make sweet sweet love to fidei.

His reads are very nuanced with good reasons behind them.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 17:32 GMT

#494

On December 01 2015 08:32 DoYouHas wrote:
I second the immediate claim by a boxer if we have one.

I want to get dyh all liquored up then do unspeakable things to him.
I don't see scum being so cavalier with this kind of mechanics thing. Kind of a weird read I know.

I think I have time to read one more filter.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 17:34 GMT

#495

Trfel looks town to me up there. Read he can't explain is pretty townie. Also very detailed thought process.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 17:38 GMT

#496

Just skimmed htf. Scumsville. Looks like she is coming up with fake arguments or talking about stuff that's not alignment indicative. Doubt tget people would be willing to lynch tho

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 17:41 GMT

#498

And I'm out. Bbl maybe. I don't even know how bad my vote is cause rels filter was tldr. Tldr is probably an indicator that it's pretty bad though.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 18:12 GMT

#509

Hey yall I found some more time.
1) DoYouHas (filter)
townie

2) Rels (filter)
tldr

3) Fidei86 (filter)
townie

4) Half the Sky (filter)
scummy/null

5) LightningStrike (filter)
townie/null

6) Trfel (filter)
townie

7) The Shining (filter)
null

8) disformation (filter)
tldr

9) MoosyDoosy (filter)
scummy/null

10) kushm4sta (filter)
townie

11) Onegu (filter)
null

12) Damdred (filter)
tldr

13) Palmar (filter)
tadr (too annoying didn't read)

since im on a pc now ill change my vote to hts

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 18:20 GMT

#518

On December 03 2015 03:13 Trfel wrote:

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On December 03 2015 03:06 LightningStrike wrote:

On December 03 2015 03:04 Trfel wrote:

On December 03 2015 03:01 LightningStrike wrote:

On December 03 2015 02:58 Trfel wrote:

On December 02 2015 23:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright, I just woke up, and I am not feeling any better. I'm headed to a doctor's appointment in an hour, but I am hoping to get back in thread barring anything serious.

I fully realise I have a shittonne to catch up on - if anyone has any questions for me, or anything specific they want me to weigh on, please prompt me and I'll do so when I return.

First of all, really sorry that you aren't feeling well. Hope you can recover soon.

Why did you vote for DoYouHas instead of kushm4sta?
Why didn't you include LightningStrike in the lynch list? Now that he's (at least mostly, I think?) answered your questions, what do you think about him?
Why did your read on me (Trfel) change?

read her filter if you want to see her progression on me

+ Show Spoiler +

She thinks I town.

And where did you get that conclusion from?

On December 02 2015 04:38 Half the Sky wrote:

On December 02 2015 04:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I here now and Tfrel I did answer HTS just not directly quoted.

On December 02 2015 04:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Looking at 346/349 -

LS, I'm not referring to meta. Let's make sure I'm not misunderstanding you here.

I'm not talking about Palmar's tone in general. I'm talking about his case. If you read the context differently, then tell me how you interpreted that.

You are saying that he's town because his tone is serious and from 349 it's based on meta. Okay fine, but regardless of meta, why would Palmar's case NOT be serious? What I'm trying to say here is that you are townreading him for a poor reason.

I didn't say it wasn't serious? Anyways the way he argued Shining like I said had a serious tone plus like said he did a very similar thing to me in Metal Mini when I was fighting him and felt frustrated with him. It took me a bit of arguing to get him to townread me in that game because I was still a newbie lol.... So it a little both but more towards personal experience with him.

Argh, no. I am saying that you said his tone is serious. In any case, you want to say you are giving a personal read towards him.

Alright, I still think this is a bad read because like I said before Palmar really can't be done off one read, but now that I've fleshed it out I don't think you are mafia for this. Still need to read the rest of your filter in conjunction with Trfel/Damdred when I return though.

Yeah....

"I don't think you are mafia for this" means that Half the Sky is not scum reading you for one specific thing in your filter. As in, she could be scum reading you for the entire rest of your filter. And that's not a townread on that one thing either.

Does anyone know if LightningStrike is generally this self-conscious as town with regards to other people's townreads on him? To make a big jump like this and try to assume everything is a townread?

Because this is making me doubt my earlier town lean on him.

I don't think LS' assumption is scummy. As for the self consiousness, that's not scummy either. Both alignments pay attention when others are talking about them.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 19:20 GMT

#547

On December 03 2015 04:10 Palmar wrote:
It's seriously demotivating to have so many deadweight players who don't play to win this game (kush, moosy, onegu).

grumpypants like always.

On December 03 2015 03:29 Rels wrote:

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I completely disagree with this. A post like that makes sense for scum!DYH:
- there is a chance boxer claiming gives scum a avantage
- he's buddying by agreeing with him on a setup consideration which is not very important

I am thinking one level deeper than you. Scum is trying to look town. They aren't trying to convince people to do things that give small benefit to the mafia team.
The buddying thing is just wrong.

I think scum are more likely to discuss game mechanics in a way that sounds smart and reeks of tmi.
Scum are usually very protown in the ideas they communicate about mechanics.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 19:22 GMT

#548

On December 03 2015 04:15 Palmar wrote:
Kush didn't do anything, he just said a bunch of words that might as well have been generated in a random read generator.

yet i have reads unlike you.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 19:37 GMT

#551

moosey might be a good comprimise. i'd be into that.

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 21:17 GMT

#582

K let's do up moosey and get a claim from him.

vote mooesy

kushm4sta

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December 02 2015 22:29 GMT

#685

I think the LS lynch is good.

I looked over his filter again. His arguments are always"so and so was like that in that game, and he's similar/different in this game, therefore he's town/scum" That's an overreliance on bad meta.
Those are very easy arguments for scum to make.