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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
October 22 2015 13:56 GMT
#18
/In : Open
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 03 2015 00:13 GMT
#83
On November 03 2015 08:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ugh, if I in I would have to get up before noon


If this is about missing the deadline don't worry just join and miss every deadline like I plan to.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 09 2015 06:34 GMT
#134
/out

Sorry I've got exams soon, probably shouldn't try juggle mafia and study
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 11 2015 11:10 GMT
#149
On November 11 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Eh, screw exams.

/in


so tempting
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 12 2015 00:22 GMT
#165
Fuck it, lets hope this doesn't start before Saturday.

/in
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 13 2015 07:30 GMT
#186
On November 12 2015 23:16 NocturneMage wrote:
Eversince predicting I'm rolling mafia.....oh the horror xD

Eh, I learnt from my first newbie here. If I have to take mafia again, so be it.

Eversince, Breshke, Trfel or anyone else here who are students....what are you all studying? I'm just curious.


I'm doing Civil and structural Engineering which will hopefully not be as hard to get a job from when i finish my degree as it is now.

Trfel I will attempt to make useful posts this game and hold hands and preach love but i'm not making any promises. Especially about the useful posts bit.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-14 10:44:26
November 14 2015 10:39 GMT
#209
#AllisOne
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 15 2015 05:58 GMT
#231
On November 15 2015 14:22 Eversince wrote:
Wells feller's, I'm goin' to be real loopy and incoherent for this game.

Bonus is that I'll have copious amounts of free time! Granted I don't spend all off it it snoozing.
I officially ran over my left foot for a second time with somethin' that weighed over 2.5t! This time it pushed the 5 medal rods previously place out through the back of me heel. Giving this as an ahead of warnin'. I'll be as manageable as possible, lynch me if I don't, but don't auto lynch me if I make zero sense.

Or do. Either way, I'll be over there somehwre on Pluto enjoy now!




Reading this makes me feel pain
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 15 2015 06:05 GMT
#232
Hope you're alright eversince, sounds nasty.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 15 2015 21:57 GMT
#330
Morning everyone.

Eversince you said the shining is suspicious does that mean you scum read him?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 15 2015 22:12 GMT
#333
Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding.

1. You make this post

On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!


2.

On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?)

3.
On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.

This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.

Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out!


Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 05:12 GMT
#377
Sorry for fucking off.

On November 16 2015 10:09 disformation wrote:
Breshke you still around? What do you think of Eversince's answers to your questions?
questions be here:+ Show Spoiler +
On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:
Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding.

1. You make this post

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!


2.

Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?)

3.
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.

This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.

Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out!


Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?

answers be here:+ Show Spoiler +

On November 16 2015 07:15 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 07:12 Breshke wrote:
Eversince can you explain this a little for me I am having trouble understanding.

1. You make this post

On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!


2.

On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


The bolded I assume refers to the initial post and makes sense to me like it was clear to me you werent being serious (apparently not to geiprt?)

3.
On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.

This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.

Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out!


Then this is where you lose me. I don't really get why you explained a read that you just called sarcastic. Do you think the difference in play means anything for farahs alignment?


1. Yeh,
2. It was in reference to my first post.
3. No I don't think Farah is mafia at this point. Her early play I took as play, and she's done nothin' else to make me consider her as mafia. The only thing she's done is question me on something I did. I answered her. And she responded to me. I liked it.



On November 16 2015 07:20 Eversince wrote:
Ohhh I think I mis-understood point 3.

I had to explain it because The Shining is poking at me for poking at Farah. I was only tryin' for cheap laughs, said as much, and still am being painted black because I said it. So I spelled it out as simply as I could understand how to. Showing my thoughts and reasoning for why I did what I did...




Kind of town lean mor like a I don't scum read him now for it.. I got a bit confused and thought eversince was trying to defend their read with that third quote but as explained that was't the case and I can understand wanting to not be hassled over a joke you make in one of your first few posts.

I don't think Shining is mafia for getting all nit picky though because I actually think his confidence early

On November 16 2015 05:58 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:52 geript wrote:
I don't like Shining. He feels really different; not because he's posting a bit more than I remember him. His posting just seems off and not pointed to me.


You're just mad that my first scum win was against you while I was super lurky. It's OK, I understand. Please explain what you mean by not pointed? I'm asking questions to flesh out my reads, since nothing else is happening for me to read/react on.

Also, since you bring up my posting frequency, you should know that my activity depends heavily on what day of the week it is and how busy work is. I almost never have time to play on Monday/Tuesday and today is Sunday so I want to get the most out of my playing time today.


Like especially this post, the second paragraph is whatever but he had just been getting grilled by VE and then geript comes in saying he doesn't like him as well and he taunts him. Seems kind of suicidal if he was mafia.

Is anyone about?






Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 05:52 GMT
#386
On November 16 2015 14:32 ritoky wrote:
idk about that shining post you quoted there breshke. you're like "second paragraph is whatever"; the second paragraph is an excuse wrapped in self-aware meta. no bueno. plus i don't think he is nitpicky....i think he doesn't care about his reads, he is just giving them out of his ass.


Ehh. I disagree . Like the second paragraph didn't need to be there geript specifically was saying he wasn't pinging him out because of how much he was posting like he specifically said he wasn't. So it isn't self aware meta nor was it an excuse because geript wasn't saying he was scum because he was posting a lot.

That's why i still liked that post because i just ignored the second paragraph. You could stretch it and say he was being overly defensive there but i think that would be dumb.

What other than the trefel read don't you like from him? I know im getting into this defending someone when i shouldnt be territory but meh why stop now.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 05:53 GMT
#387
Ritoky i have work in an hour just thought you would want to know xoxo
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 22:28 GMT
#494
On November 17 2015 06:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 05:58 NocturneMage wrote:
On November 17 2015 05:50 Trfel wrote:
So you're saying that Breshke is suspicious because he's not focusing on the important things in the thread, at the time that he was there?

I guess my question back to you is, how do you determine what the important things in the thread are? Isn't that a matter of opinion?

I'll take a look at the context again, this kind of read is definitely valid and can be very powerful, but it's also extremely subjective, which makes it so, so difficult to apply correctly.


You have a point with the second sentence but when you read Breshke's filter, he talks about geript and VE "grilling" him. So he mentions them at the very least. It can be assumed that he's at least read and he makes a read on Shining but fails to take a stance on geript and VE.

Now, I realise there are a lot of Americans in this game and maybe the word "grilling" has a different meaning or a different context to some people but he clearly has an opinion on what is happening but doesn't focus on VE one way whereas other people are. He even says geript taunts him (post 377) but doesn't focus further. Like in his world, something should have tipped him off. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

MoosyDoosy was not quite as active so he might get a pass if he may have failed to notice but
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 06:00 NocturneMage wrote:
edit: last sentence at Trfel - Moosy not quite as active, but there's no way he couldn't have followed up on VE/geript.
Breshke, please answer this.

NocturneMage, I think I see what you're getting at now. I'd like to see Breshke answer first.


To bet totally honest with my short amount of time yesterday and getting sidetracked posting about the shining I kind of forgot that I hadn't given like any reads on the game especially because the reads are really weak.

So with Geript if it was just some random would be town reading him because his posts don't feel like structured? Im not sure if that is the ebst way to explain it but his posting feels very care free like he has nothing to hide and he ranked people out of 7 like why 7 idc if this sounds dumb but that's just peculiar and not in a bad way because it draws attention to his reads. The problem is I don't doubt Geripts mafia ability especially after some big game that I don't remember the name where he was mafia. Still would not lynch though.

Ritoky is in the same grain as Geript where he is pushing the game forward and I still disagree with him on the shining but I don't think it makes him mafia.

Moosy would lynch in a heartbeat. His mafia list is basically people not being talked about to be lynched and he doesn't even try explain his reads. Doesn't really make much sense
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 22:30 GMT
#499
Trefel do you think your case still holds water even though VE was just pressuring shining early so it can be assumed he didn't actually believe Eversinces read?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 22:33 GMT
#502
On November 17 2015 07:30 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, any thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast?

What makes geript's ranking out of 7 post any different from a standard list post?


I have no problem with VE's read on FF seems to be a classic " he isn't doing stuff so lynch him".

IDK i said it was dumb but people normally do stuff out of 10 or a percent or like out of 5. He did 7 so someone could be like "Why the fuck is it out of 7" and he would need to explain which would bring more attention to his reads etc
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 22:35 GMT
#506
On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!

##Unvote

I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted.

The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you.

So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by.


Trefel the bolded makes me fairly sure all the shining stuff was just pressure. Did he say otherwise?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 22:36 GMT
#507
Also it goes without saying but Moosy when you are here please explain your reads.

FF some content from you would be dandy aswell.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 16 2015 22:38 GMT
#511
VE if we couldn't lynch FF or Moosy today who then?
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