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United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-08 09:40:59
December 08 2006 08:49 GMT
#1
You be the Judge

It is about 30 minutes long. It is worth the watch. It is about the UK terrorist bombings. You be the judge. It might amuse those with a cynical sense of humor that business as usual, happens everywhere and though out our human history, not just now and in the USA only...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4943675105275097719&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=undefined

Some historical quotes

Many of us have heard some variation of the following quote..

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country
."

Quote by: Hermann Goering
(1893-1946) Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, President of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler's designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.

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Some of us may have also heard...

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

Quote by: Joseph Goebbels
German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945

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"They never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it."

During World War II, the predecessor of the US Central Intelligence Agency, the Office of Strategic Services, described how the Germans used the propaganda technique of "Big Lie".
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
HAZE.tQ
Profile Joined October 2006
United States251 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-08 11:15:26
December 08 2006 11:07 GMT
#2
About the 7/7 bombing...the followup investigation was obviously bullshit and full of holes and propaganda, same with the 9/11 investigation.

Actions speak louder than words. And most people today feel like they have no say in how are government forms are destiny. In America we are liable to take up arms and protest if are government is slowly killing us and the world. But we have forgot the reasons why are country was founded and have been going straight downhill ever since Vietnam and the when the CIA killed Kennedy (CIA was founded by the mob and elitists -_- i don't care what you say -_-).Now it seems that freedom of information acts and persuading the media are the last weapons we have.

While people in the EU have always trusted heavily for their government to keep them safe. From the looks of it we will just keep going about are daily lives until are daily lives heavily threatend.Then you will have your majority voice and choice, better late than never. Lets just hope there will be enough of us alive to oppose the animals higher up on the food-chain.

But as of now all democracies are jaded and broken. And the Iraqi democracy will be the polar opposite of what you would expect in America or anywhere else. Right now we need to re-check ourselves and sort out our own countries before worrying about the whole world since the UN is just a money pit.
orzhady
Profile Joined March 2004
Sweden180 Posts
December 08 2006 11:15 GMT
#3
bomb it all
hell yeah
weeeeeeee
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
December 08 2006 12:13 GMT
#4
conspiracy theory. same stuff happened on 9/11.
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
Fallen
Profile Joined October 2005
Canada192 Posts
December 08 2006 13:28 GMT
#5
most poeple only look back a few weeks ago when making an opinion on something.. they dont tend to use historical events to base their thoughts on.

say a lie once and its a lie, say it twice and you create doubt -- say it three times and it is truth!

random ramblings

And the Iraqi democracy


Iraqi democracy? not in 10 years
oh hay
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