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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-02 03:29:04
November 29 2006 19:44 GMT
#1
(this is NOT a serious post, they "almost" never are ..also I think have seen the pic before too here at tl.net somewhere..)

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http://sc.replays.hu/ (posted by bludger)

Pic thanks to Replays.hu always providing us with replays, replays packs and funny pics. This one is of course racist even though it is done in honor of humor. I do not know who the author is.

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Chatting with geoff about neo-nazi symbolism, I was reminded of an old humorous debate. Is StarCraft racist? Not many black characters, and the few that we can find occupy negative or lowly positions of SCV. Women too don't fare much better. There are several quotes also that at to say the least odd.

Back to the word honor. The Warcraft Book written by Blizzard's Chris Metzen himself http://www.blizzard.co.uk/books/WarcraftOBH.shtml uses the title WarCraft: Of Blood and Honor. The choice of words in reminiscent of the very motto of Hitlerjungend, i.e. Hitler's Youth had it engraved in the uniform blades, which was supposed to highlight the "never surrender" spirit. . Blood and Honor happens also to be one of largest neo-Nazi militant networks today that coincidentally was born out of a lose associations of punk, metal bands & its fans initially.
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Everyone knows too that a few at Blizzard from part of the band called "Level 60 Elite Tauren Chieftain." (a heavy metal band with punk affinity)

This is from their most famous song..

"Farseer to the Warsong clan,
To no matter will I kneel.
Feel the power and the energy,
For the black blood, honor and steel."

* http://wow-dd.svarov.org/MP3/MP3_soubory/Power of the Horde.mp3 The power of the Horde: Storm, Earth and Fire
* http://wow-dd.svarov.org/MP3/Death Dealers Download MP3.htm (other)

The word horde too has often been used as an adjective to describe Nazi members:
"The Nazi Horde." But this is an even older story, as it goes all the way back to the Lord of the Rings and Tolkein **

**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien_and_racism

blah blah.. I get carried away in my boredom sometimes. ..

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Some one brought this old debate at newsground and did not get too much sympathy from the forum members. Some of the replies are funny, some not. Let me quote his post:

Posted by Mop-Top (I hope it is not Testie) Starcraft is Sexist and Racist.

1)There was only 2 black people in the whole game
2)1 black was an insignificant worker
3)The other seems to be evil (betrayed UED, helped Kerrigan, and now mixing different species genes.
4)The only girls were a medic, transport, and valkeries and a robot (Which isn't exactly human)
5)Everyone seemed to be a bit redneck

I don't think the firebat is black. I'm pretty sure he ain't.

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic.php?id=227904
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Retarded ytmnd site that points out what many of us might have already noticed when we first played Starcraft.
http://scracism.ytmnd.com/


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Anyway, putting it to a vote

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Poll: Is StarCraft Racist?
(Vote): 28/88!
(Vote): Yea, but just came out subconsiously
(Vote): No, it is racists ONLY to racists minds
(Vote): No more than Command & Conquer
(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): It is just a game dude..
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 29 2006 19:53 GMT
#2
hm.. interesting post.

=.= poor africa in that pic.

i think all those blood and honor and things are just coincidences drawn from our culture and use of those objects as symbols etc...

anyway another female in the game -> razsagal? lol :D
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bearnet2001
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Argentina335 Posts
November 29 2006 20:16 GMT
#3
Kerrigan is both female and arguably the most important character in the storyline...
wXs.Havok
Profile Joined October 2006
Argentina529 Posts
November 29 2006 20:23 GMT
#4
it isnt strange that most MILITARY units are male.

Also you have 3 high range characters that are female

Kerrigan is some kind of Lt.
Raszagal is the LEADER of the Dark Templars.
And the Valkyrie chick has higher range than the wraith captains.
Read this and you`re gay
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
November 29 2006 21:36 GMT
#5
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
November 29 2006 21:45 GMT
#6
ultra-anti-rascist just busting to point the finger at people and say YOURE RASCIST

jesus fucking christ just like the fucking idiots who pointed out that OMFG THERE ARE NO BLACK PPL IN THE SHOW "FRIENDS" THEREFORE ALL THE PPL IN IT the director, producer, actors etc etc ARE ALL RASCIST OMFG SUE UR FUCKING ASS

gg well... uhh... there are no black actors... so what?
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Dahlia...
Profile Joined September 2005
United States409 Posts
November 29 2006 22:03 GMT
#7
Duran represents Cubans well. ;;
alpskomleko
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Slovenia950 Posts
November 29 2006 22:07 GMT
#8
It's a safe guess the Matriarch was female as well. As far as female protoss goes, of course.
players do games, press mens do their things. and fans do make good cheers.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 29 2006 22:15 GMT
#9
-.-...
The Real Power~
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
November 29 2006 22:32 GMT
#10
This is just stupid. Starcraft is not racist - only for those who want it to be.
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
November 29 2006 22:49 GMT
#11
lol everyone is taking this seriously
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superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3685 Posts
November 29 2006 22:50 GMT
#12
Very funny pic.
Racism only exists for the weak.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
November 29 2006 22:57 GMT
#13
On November 30 2006 07:49 GroT wrote:
lol everyone is taking this seriously


I'm not :p

Nice pic btw, love the Koreans.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
November 29 2006 23:00 GMT
#14
Marines are commies
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
November 29 2006 23:04 GMT
#15
Roflmao, the one for Japan is hilarious.
LordofAscension
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States589 Posts
November 29 2006 23:20 GMT
#16
It is just a game. But really look @ Nova. She is the heroine to a game that never got made. It's just a game. The game itself isn't racist since it doesn't put any race "down". At worst SC plays favorites. Sometimes I think people dig a little too much to what isn't there.

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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
November 29 2006 23:30 GMT
#17
Hilarious pic ^^ and...

OMG!1! OMG!1! There are no Asian or Eskimo characters in brood war, RACISM!1! RACISM!1! PURE EVIL I TELL YOU !1!

USA are NAZIS, you can't deny it, just look at the san diego naval base:
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I'll call Nada.
Dametri
Profile Joined September 2005
United States726 Posts
November 29 2006 23:38 GMT
#18
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i once had sex with a dog,twice -z7-TranCe
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
November 29 2006 23:39 GMT
#19
i'm pretty sure tassadar was a nigger
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
November 29 2006 23:48 GMT
#20
its only racist if youre jesse jackson and you got bored out of making up racial claims in real life situations (kinda like the strip club shooting, where 2 cops were black and anothre 2 were spanish)

if it was racist, the marines would be black, since theyre the first to die.

id like to add in tho cuz i foudn it hilarious when i read it, a quote from a zvt guide from (sadist? idk, whoever made the hilarious zvt guide a few months back with pics on luna)

"if you see a nigger in a space suit running around, be sure to kill it"
Only communists disconnect.
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