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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
September 29 2014 01:54 GMT
#8
/in
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 03 2014 19:53 GMT
#50
Changelog?

As best I can tell the medic was nerfed?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 03 2014 20:10 GMT
#52
wuuuuut movable vest OP. I will require a night action resolution order please.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 03 2014 21:03 GMT
#54
its still within the realm of 'normal' imo, just really hard to balance...i guess that leads into sanity conditions for cops and 3P interaction with multiple vests..okay yeah lets not.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 03 2014 21:12 GMT
#56
Skip Bayless
You are Skip Bayless and you're wronger than lefty catcher's mitt. Every night you may pm the host #poopchuteviolator PlayerName/PlayerName/PlayerName. You will be told how many you got correct. If you correctly identify the scum team you instantly win the game and are removed for being too lucky. You lose the game if you ever die. This role can only be given to Palmer. Palmer will not have this role.


ROFL
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 06 2014 13:03 GMT
#103
Morning guys. We need to liven this place up a bit. Who's ready for some FOOTBALL?

@batsnacks how sure are you that you've caught mafia there...?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 06 2014 17:33 GMT
#228
On October 07 2014 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.


That's like a BH patented thread entrance. tbh I dont know that I've ever seen it followed, but its a true random and its what he does.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 06 2014 17:52 GMT
#240
sry randomly posting between meetings/work. I'll be on tonight dont worry. ps bats and oats are probably both town. kthxbai
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 06 2014 23:20 GMT
#335
the math fails are strong.

A) 3/13=23%
B) 14 players (3/14 = 21.4%, 4/14=28.5%)
C) 3 mafia makes perfect sense given the roles present in this game.


omw home soon, will reread after i get there and get something to eat, expect me in ~3 hours max. p.s. stop using setup speculation for scumreads.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 01:33 GMT
#377
reading
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:07 GMT
#393
Things I thought were worth commenting on while reading the thread

Random shit about oats. tl;dr i think he's town.
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 06 2014 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 20:27 batsnacks wrote:
So should we all mass claim and then take it from there?

great plan.

Im totes a vt.

This looks like hes trolling off the bat. "You can believe me *winkwink* I'm totes town"
On October 06 2014 21:27 Grackaroni wrote:
I think oats was sarcastic and slam is chupazi

grack agrees (or i agree with grack)
On October 06 2014 21:18 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 21:05 Grackaroni wrote:
What happens next? We random lynch into the VT claims? Sounds good to me


That sounds reasonable. Before that though I think you, oats, and slam should explain the benefits of claiming in this setup.

whyd you skip liancourt?




On October 06 2014 22:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Morning guys. We need to liven this place up a bit. Who's ready for some FOOTBALL?

@batsnacks how sure are you that you've caught mafia there...?


See: "Are you a fucking retard?"
Re:
On October 06 2014 21:36 batsnacks wrote:
##vote: grackaroni

(from the voting thread btw)



On October 06 2014 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 23:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
It blows my mind how that could be seen as anything other than a joke post.
FOR BOTH SCUM AND TOWN WHICH MAKES IT USELESS BAT.
COMPLETELY FUCKING USELESS.


He said we shouldn't mass claim. Like. He flat out said it was bad. You AGREE WITH HIM..... Yet you are yelling at him..................???!?!??

...
On October 06 2014 20:27 batsnacks wrote:
So should we all mass claim and then take it from there?

just saying...




[insert calling oatsmaster scum bullshit arguments here]


@BH how can you say OO is super scum because he trolled in the face of RNGesus? The scummiest thing he's done is been relatively inactive, but I liked his tone in this post:
On October 07 2014 02:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Okay good, now that's out of the way.

#1 oats is prob town he's too frustrated and sticking around despite it. By corollary I like HF and batsnacks based on that discussion.

#2 don't know what to make of Grack, he was present and participating in a conversation but I don't really see anything alignment indicative after almost a full page of filter

#3 interested in the reply from storr re: liancourt

Maybe you walk me through your thought process again as to why matyring to RNG is scummy?

On October 07 2014 03:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 03:38 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 03:20 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:55 liancourt wrote:
Also there is a possibility that people will keep posting until they get the number they want. So there is a wayto abuse it


You're so incredibly uninformed, it hurts. I made one post, and that post provided the RNG #. How do you think it would look if I said "actually, ignore that post, we're going to use this one instead?" It would look awful, and I have obviously never done that and did not do that this game.

If you really think that my RNG system is gameable, you simply don't understand it. Due to your lack of comprehension, you are hereby disqualified from any future discussion of RNG until you apologise for your ignorance.



Oh so you declare the post beforehand. My mistake I just skimmed too much text.

Even so. I dont approve because its random. And just flushes everything we discussed up until now down the drain.

And theres discrepancies in that some people will do it and some people wont.

Town will do it in the off chance they can get a scum. Mafia wont do it in the off chance they they get one of their own but the potential to lynch town randomly and being unreadable at the same time off sets that risk.


I'm not sorry to flush the "amazing" discussion of whether it's appropriate to use caps lock down the drain. If Oats is scum or not, whatever, but even you have to admit RNG is a better way of doing things than "did he inappropriately use capslock"

great post 10/10. Still don't think OO is scum though.




I want to call kelsier scum...but thats probably just the OMGUS talking. Literacy issues aside, he keeps pushing that BH is scum for derailing the thread which is a crock of shit imo. Lian is derailing it far more by insisting BH is scum after almost every player has said this is not alignment indicative.


On October 07 2014 08:10 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 08:06 Grackaroni wrote:
So when can we question you? The game where you roll scum and you say "go ahead and question me I'm scum so I'll be here until end game."

This game was the heavyweight championship game btw. tsk tsk

3-4 is the reasonable assumption for mafia with 14 people so the 22% isn't very strange to me.

Can we apply marv's lylo rule to HF?



On October 07 2014 08:29 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 08:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
the math fails are strong.

A) 3/13=23%
B) 14 players (3/14 = 21.4%, 4/14=28.5%)
C) 3 mafia makes perfect sense given the roles present in this game.


omw home soon, will reread after i get there and get something to eat, expect me in ~3 hours max. p.s. stop using setup speculation for scumreads.


This doesn't account for 3rd parties.

I'm sorry, I'll spoon feed you:

Say "ahhhhhhhh"

B) 14 players
9 town and 1 (3p)martyr or 10 town
3 mafia
1 poisoner

9+1+3+1=14

10+3+1=14

3/14 chance to randomly lynch mafia
4/14 chance to randomly lynch anti-town

Happy now?


Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:13 GMT
#395
in an hour and a half witihn the 3 hours leading to the deadline time, less than a page was generated while I read the thread over. I think obiwan is justified in saying shits not getting done. Also all his filter is focussed on BH's RNG stuff.

-Tells people what is/isnt scummy
- no answers

what the fuck are you doing Holyflare?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:20 GMT
#396
obiwan who do you want to talk about?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:27 GMT
#398
On October 07 2014 12:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred/lion, mostly.

Opinions on them?

goddman backspace key deleted my post

lian has his head up his ass about BH's RNG stuff but is so pigheaded about it I think he's town.

Damdred is scummy for saying oats makes his skin crawl, goading HF into voting oats, sitting on the sidelines for a bit then reneging on his (inconclusive..) oats-read. Recent BH/OO stuff is null.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:31 GMT
#399
what do you think about me obiwan?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:39 GMT
#403
okay...how do you feel about grack* and/or kelsier?

Damdred you're thoughts on them as well?

*I know i've made no mention of him yet.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:42 GMT
#405
I read it as goading because you didnt vote or scumread oats but were insistent that HF vote his scumread, oats. What would you call it?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:49 GMT
#410
On October 07 2014 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it

yeah okay. timestamps are a useful skill toi have. i still think the point about his turnabout on oats (which as usual you've already pointed out, all hail based holyflare) is fair.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 03:51 GMT
#411
I'm headed to bed, I'll try to be more active tomorrow. 'night.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 07 2014 13:28 GMT
#579
On October 07 2014 22:16 Holyflare wrote:
Obi had 24 hours of game time to read the thread, make conclusions and post reads. I can get that he is busy but the first thing he said on his return was that he was reading the thread. After about half an hour of apparently not reading the thread he returns and only repeatedly told people that what bh was doing wasn't scummy hence why I called him out on not doing anything useful because it was already stated multiple times that what BH was doing is in fact null. So not only does he skirt by with no real reads he appears to contribute in lieu of actually participating by rehashing the same thing over and over again.


The parts about continuing to harp on about BH stuff is moderately useful since people continue to talk about it. Seriously guys STOP WITH THE RNG DISCUSSION.

I was under the impression that obi had actually read the thread and was about to...do...things, once he'd gotten people to drop the RNG discussion. Evidently I was wrong. Obi do you have any reads based on...reading?

Skimming through what happened over the night, Grack is way townier than I implied earlier. He's not only generating content, its useful content, as opposed to incessantly trolling/joking.

Slam with some more g8 b8 m8. Slam why are you so scummy? Who are your partners?

As with others, waiting on storr's awesome case.

Oats/Kelsier discussion was really meh.

Liancourt's list post is a wall of wishwash. Would #lynchwithfire.
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