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Hey everyone
@loafery I think you are misunderstanding the setup, superbia's link would be good for you to read.
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sorry guys ive been fairly sick so my sleep routine is all over the place at the moment.
Loafery why did you decide to refer to yourself as confirmed town? I was actually reading you as town until you said this. You shouldn't try to be using yourself misreading the setup to prove you are town it can easily be faked.
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Superbia you have obviously played with FF before, i know its early but how do you think his game is going so far compared to your last game together?
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On October 07 2014 20:54 Superbia wrote:
Also abuse & loaf probably both town.
Why do you think loaf is town?
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So i also just want to get all my thoughts about Loaf down.
At first his dumbtell made me really think he was towny then
On October 07 2014 10:33 loafery wrote:
enough about games i've played on other forums
what are we gonna do about this today, I'm apparently confirmed town we got 3 people here and I'm getting positive vibes from you two so I don't think you two guys are scum nothing really suspicious.
Calling himself confirmed towny really gave off bad vibes.
Also loaf you say most games you played in were complicated having multiple power role setups so do you not read the OP in most of your games to better understand them?
At the end of your post here it seems like you were about to give a read on abuse then kind of didn't. Would you mind teling me your thoughts on him?
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On October 08 2014 07:40 loafery wrote:
"This set-up is based off of the Matrix6 setup with added flavor. This is a semi-open set-up meaning that while all of the roles possible will be displayed the number of each role in game is unknown."
for my defense of being noobish I frankly didn't read this part of the OP. My mistake. To be frank, it's my first time playing semi-open or any kind of open setup. It's always been where everyone knows which roles there are and its fixed.
I srsly don't want to bring in external factors to the game and my credibility and what not. If I have to then so be it...
But atm i want to read abuse as scummy for trying so unnaturally hard and tunneling into lynching me.
Do you not agree then that people reading you as town just for misreading the OP could be scummy then? Like this is something that could be faked so i don't see how people can get a town read off that. Also in my opinion not trying to answer questions is scummy because it makes it seem like you have something to hide but I understand there been so much focus on you so there's a lot to answer.
I'm uneasy about superbia and ff saying they both basically disagree with the push on loaf but aren't pushing on anyone themselves. Who are you both scum reading? Who do you think should be a wagon for today?
Also my biggest town at the moment is abuse from his hard push on loaf as he was the first one to actively push his reads and doing this as mafia would majorly put the spotlight on him if loaf gets lynched and happens to flip town.
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On October 08 2014 09:19 loafery wrote:
Firstly I don't really get what the difference is between calling myself town and confirmed town.
And for abuse to pick up on this and accuse me of being scum seems a little far fetched to me.
From my understanding confirmed town is when you have been checked by a cop and the mod has told them you are town. I can't speak for abuse but you calling yourself confirmed town in my eyes seemed like you were trying to ride off your dumb tell of not knowing the setup don't take yourself off the table for day one which is scummy because you shouldn't be trying to confirm yourself you should be trying to find mafia.
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On October 08 2014 09:41 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 09:34 Breshke wrote:On October 08 2014 09:19 loafery wrote:
Firstly I don't really get what the difference is between calling myself town and confirmed town.
And for abuse to pick up on this and accuse me of being scum seems a little far fetched to me. From my understanding confirmed town is when you have been checked by a cop and the mod has told them you are town. I can't speak for abuse but you calling yourself confirmed town in my eyes seemed like you were trying to ride off your dumb tell of not knowing the setup don't take yourself off the table for day one which is scummy because you shouldn't be trying to confirm yourself you should be trying to find mafia. So what your saying is if a mafia is pushing someone for lynch they would be read as town?
No im saying if we all sat here and just said we were town mafia would slowly kill us and they would win. So instead we try and find the mafia and lynch them. Also people pushing lynches gives information after the lynch happens as well so its also good in that way. Of course mafia can push lynches but its the reasons they push lynches for that you have to look at and where they flip there reads and what not.
On October 08 2014 09:25 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 22:11 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2014 21:04 Breshke wrote:On October 07 2014 20:54 Superbia wrote:
Also abuse & loaf probably both town. Why do you think loaf is town? It's mostly a gut read plus I'm happy with people pushing on him so far, so I'll let you know when it matters. you are awfully staying in the background and letting others do the work while you just ask questions and try to care about twhats going on. I have a scum read on you right now.
Also i like this post as i was having much the same thoughts so i am reading you town for it.
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On October 08 2014 09:45 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 09:29 Breshke wrote:On October 08 2014 07:40 loafery wrote:
"This set-up is based off of the Matrix6 setup with added flavor. This is a semi-open set-up meaning that while all of the roles possible will be displayed the number of each role in game is unknown."
for my defense of being noobish I frankly didn't read this part of the OP. My mistake. To be frank, it's my first time playing semi-open or any kind of open setup. It's always been where everyone knows which roles there are and its fixed.
I srsly don't want to bring in external factors to the game and my credibility and what not. If I have to then so be it...
But atm i want to read abuse as scummy for trying so unnaturally hard and tunneling into lynching me. Do you not agree then that people reading you as town just for misreading the OP could be scummy then? Like this is something that could be faked so i don't see how people can get a town read off that. Also in my opinion not trying to answer questions is scummy because it makes it seem like you have something to hide but I understand there been so much focus on you so there's a lot to answer. I'm uneasy about superbia and ff saying they both basically disagree with the push on loaf but aren't pushing on anyone themselves. Who are you both scum reading? Who do you think should be a wagon for today? Also my biggest town at the moment is abuse from his hard push on loaf as he was the first one to actively push his reads and doing this as mafia would majorly put the spotlight on him if loaf gets lynched and happens to flip town. How would players reading me as town be scummy?
The reasons they have said you were town, do you agree with them? You say abuse is jumping on small things to call you mafia then on what grounds do you think ff and superbia are calling you town? If you are town wouldn't you be a bit suspicious that when most of the players are of the mindset that you are scum two of them say you are town with hardly any reasoning.
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ff i'm actually not lumping both of you together in my mind if one of you turns out to be scum I highly doubt the other is as your play has been too similar to begin the day both opposing the push on loaf and not really pushing on anyone else. Having played with eachother before maybe scum ff thinks playing similar to town superbia will make him read you as town and vice versa. This isnt a 100% thing though just something i thought i'd share.
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I want to try explain something in defense of Zen but i am not reading him as town he is still null for me at the moment.
So he made his wall post about loaf which was basically just sheeping abuse. In my first game im not sure if you remember I basically just sheeped the entire game when I tried to make posts because i was finding it really hard to make content of my own.
On October 07 2014 23:12 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 23:00 abuse wrote:On October 07 2014 22:11 Superbia wrote:On October 07 2014 21:04 Breshke wrote:On October 07 2014 20:54 Superbia wrote:
Also abuse & loaf probably both town. Why do you think loaf is town? It's mostly a gut read plus I'm happy with people pushing on him so far, so I'll let you know when it matters. tell me what do you think about this post ? I'm pretty sure all the points he brought up were brought up before. Interested to see what he has to say when he comes back.
This post here is probably the reason why zen then pretends that he read through the thread better and only just saw abuses post. Zen don't do this, its hardly ever good to lie as town especially about stuff like this. If you saw abuses post and agreed with it say that.
I do agree however that non committal reads are not good because they don't give much information. Care to tell us your thoughts on people in particular superbia and loaf.
##Vote: The_Zen_Man
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Im here Rad, i disagree with you i think lists can be useful as it makes it hard for mafia to leave their partners out of their reads.
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Also would you care to place a vote on your biggest scum or someone you'd like to pressure or whatever especially if you are sleeping soon i know you will probably be here before EoD but it will probably be useful.
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what's your current read on abuse?
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On October 08 2014 15:15 Rad wrote:
Breshke, what are your thoughts about Fecalfeast? Are you satisfied with him parking his vote on zen?
I'm not actually sure like the interaction between superbia and ff about the vote on zen really seems off to me like superbia can just tell ff what to do. He has said he doesnt like to be lumped together with super and then votes along side him without explaining anything. He has posted a lot but has yet to give a scumread of his own and is voting on someone because someone who he has said he doesnt want to be paired with told him to. Looking back on this i think this is very scummy.
##Vote: Fecalfeast
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On October 08 2014 15:28 Rad wrote:Btw: Show nested quote +
If you change your vote, please ##Unvote before posting another vote (can be done in the same post).
So are you saying you don't believe zen is scum now? Or you think fecal's trying to bus zen to gain town cred?
##Unvote
Vote:Fecalfeast
My vote on Zen was more for pressure and his dislike of non committal reads he has made. I feel that for the quantity of your reads you have provided a very little amount of information and you only voted for Zen after superbia made a case on him. It feels like you are just trying to cruise by.
On October 08 2014 15:35 Fecalfeast wrote:You want to know the post that really made me vote him? It was by superbia, even. Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you? You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum? Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote. I am waiting for the man to post and you seriously come to the conclusion that I'm the best lynch target? Are you getting nervous or what?
Nervous about what? Why would i be nervous? Why are you so worried about my vote like you quoted
On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you? You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum? Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote.
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##Vote: Fecalfeast
Missed the hashtags sorry
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Just woke up, will respond to abuses posts later like in night phase unless anyone specifically wants it now.
Zen you are about to be lynched you need to leave us with some info who are you reading scum other than superbia as much as rad doesn't like lists a list wold be fine.
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Zen what's your opinion on the four people voting you right now and what do you think of Elvis?
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