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TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 08 2014 00:39 GMT
#13
/in
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 11 2014 04:25 GMT
#109
On August 11 2014 13:09 HaruRH wrote:
Hi guys im new to tl mafia, this is my first game

I sheep kush because he is kush

##Vote:MysteryMeat1

Do you actually have an opinion on the case on MM?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 11 2014 06:43 GMT
#117
Kush do you have any thoughts on Haru?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 00:50 GMT
#437
Currently on page 10 and posting as i read. I don't know if these questions have already been answered. Also expect double/triple/octuple/whatever posts, i don't care if it's against the rules, it's necessary.
On August 11 2014 22:26 onevone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 22:20 Koshi wrote:
Double posting is against the rules.


On August 11 2014 21:53 HaruRH wrote:
Oh no my bear went to quit this game for the newbie game. Now I am left defenseless against the onslaught of treachery. Koshi, i command you to save me

Post more stuff. As you can see this game is slow as fuck. Post more stuff. Tell us about your life. No hiding behind people if there is nothing to talk about in the thread. I cannot let you hide behind me if I can't shoot on anybody else.


On August 11 2014 22:02 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 21:27 onevone wrote:
You still here Koshi?

On August 11 2014 21:28 onevone wrote:
Oh, I guess not. Unless you've been waiting for hours

Ofc I am still here. I watched the thread view count go up from 2065 to 2135 before anybody replied.

I am close to lynching rayn.


Close to lynching rayn? Based on his somewhat useless commentary so far?

No. Because I was all alone in this thread and rayn didn't talk to me. And it was likely him and Kush and probably some evul cohost roaming the thread.


On August 11 2014 22:16 kushm4sta wrote:
classic scum move:

"Anybody here? Guess not
k bye"

Yes. I like this.
There was no reason for onevone to not ask his question when he had one for me.


Well, I don't think it's a good idea to lynch rayn D1 anyway.

What does your last sentence mean?

Why don't you think it's a good idea to lynch Rayn D1? You're implying that he may be a good lynch at a later date so what has he done to make you think he's scummy? And why is it a better idea to lynch MM over Rayn today?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 00:58 GMT
#438
On August 11 2014 23:47 onevone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 23:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:30 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).

Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar.

Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy?
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!





I am calling this now:

Mysterymeat1 is TOWN

I put money on it. Going against this is going against me.


Please read again. I have never said that it's scummy to post about Avatar.

It's not really definitely scummy to trash yourself. It's just that often scum are more keen to appear useless / meaningless as a player so that they won't be accused of being useless in the discussion.

You don't agree that the reason to why Mysterymeat " trashed himself" was to make Mages feel more comfortable? Because that looks pretty pro-town to me.

On August 11 2014 23:25 onevone wrote:
The *case* isn't really scummy in itself, no. It just didn't feel good to have a big push on VE based on very weak / subjective reasons immediately after he was voted by VE. It felt like an OMGUS / panic reaction that scum might make in his situation.

Dude. I just fucking coloured 50% of the things MysteryMeat said in green.

TELL ME WHY THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMMY. You said this:

On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1
After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much

I just gave you 4 reasons to townread MysteryMeat of that case. Tell me why those 4 reasons are bad.

Because your vote is currently on MysteryMeat because this:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:

2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1


So if I know analyze these 2 points you made about MysterMeat1
1) Downplayed + talked about Avatar
---> Like I said. This is not scummy. He talked with some people about Avatar. He comforted Mages.

2) He makes a case on VE that doesn't say much.
---> Probably the best case in the game so far. At least way better than all the cases on MysterMeat. I am still waiting on somebody telling me the 4 green bolded things in his case are more likely to come from scum than town. Because I see it coming more likely from town.



Why is your vote still on MysteryMeat?

##unvote
##vote: onevone


Why should my vote not be on MysteryMeat1? Should I rather not vote at all? I'll vote for someone else when I find someone more scummy. No point in not voting at all just because the read is weak.

I just said that the reasons in MM1's case are not scummy in themselves. Yet you continue to ask me why they are scummy. I only said that the timing + weak (not scummy) reasoning of the case didn't look good, making it look more like a panic reaction. It's plausible that the case itself is a genuine town thought process.

So you're saying that one of the points you have against MM is that he made a non alignment indicative post at a bad time? How does that combined with him saying his play wasn't the best make him scummy?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 01:01 GMT
#439
On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell.

Why are you reading Mages as town?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 01:12 GMT
#440
On August 12 2014 01:05 Mages wrote:
I think Koshi is good at least because of his ideas on the duality of downplaying between me and MM not being completely sound, how we both downplayed reasonably the same yet one of us was chosen as evil simply because of fluff. I had asked Kush at the beginning to tell me about himself so i could get to know him a wee bit better, the way he responded didn't look so nice.

Note : Bolds are mine to draw attention to the crux of my discussion.


Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 08:39 Mages wrote:
Well, being that I'm new, i really don't know anybody except Damdred. I'll go ahead and share a little about myself. I'm Old, Fatherly, Tech Support Genus, and attended college for English & Chinese. When it comes to talking, I'm a little reserved normally, I blame introversion and being ridiculed by girls! My hobbies include living peacefully and camping - camping for the win. Who else wants to share? How about you. Kush?






Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 09:32 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn-no spamin
ve-nice to see you again. i love you <3
MysteryMeat1-wasup cutie
Damdred-hii there
onevone-who teh fuck are you
koc-awww yeahs omgus represent
Mages-who the fuck are you, guy
koshi-please dont rage bro
batsnacks-remember damdred, lol
Sn0_Man-wb
Onegu-how's thailand or whatever
HaruRH-u are one sketchy mofo

and so ends the most comprehensively useless post of all time


So, Koshi's fine to me, Kush is a little bit more suspicious because of hostility, and Onevone im gonna need a little bit more time on.

How does Kush being "hostile" in a way that has no bearing on the game make him scummy?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 02:13 GMT
#445
On August 12 2014 03:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
So okay. These are the people I'd lynch into today:

MysteryMeat1, Onegu, KingofCats, batsnacks

I feel like the case on MM is the strongest, so that's where my vote is. But I feel like I'm going to have to move it because people are squeamish about lynching him based on his history of being D1 mislynched, so I'm going to look into alternatives.

Out of the three, Me, Onegu and Batsnacks who would you vote for first and why? Also do you have reads on anyone else?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 02:14 GMT
#446
On August 12 2014 03:37 Koshi wrote:
Snowman is also confirmed town.

Why is he conf town?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 02:16 GMT
#449
On August 12 2014 03:30 onevone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 03:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
Alright can I pretend to be grush or watever starsenses guy's name is?

Scumteam totally 1v1, snackbats and VE. For post-game cred.


More like post-game shame. How is batsnacks more scummy than TheKingOfTheCats in any way? At worst they should be at the same level.

If me and Batsnacks are at the same level of scumminess then why vote me over him? Why are you seemingly reluctant to vote Bats?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 02:58 GMT
#461
On August 12 2014 10:52 batsnacks wrote:
Ok I finished reading the thread and

##vote: KingOfCats

for quadruple posting seven questions and nothing else. I do not feel that KingOfCats cares if his questions are answered.

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 09:50 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Currently on page 10 and posting as i read. I don't know if these questions have already been answered. Also expect double/triple/octuple/whatever posts, i don't care if it's against the rules, it's necessary.


It isn't necessary, you could have consolidated your 7 questions into one post.

I think it's interesting that damdred and his buddy mages are scum reading each other.

What makes you feel that i don't care if my questions are answered?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 03:16 GMT
#469
On August 12 2014 12:02 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 11:58 Damdred wrote:
Bat besides koc who would you vote and why?


You because I'm salty about last game. Aren't you glad I voted koc?

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 11:58 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On August 12 2014 10:52 batsnacks wrote:
Ok I finished reading the thread and

##vote: KingOfCats

for quadruple posting seven questions and nothing else. I do not feel that KingOfCats cares if his questions are answered.

On August 12 2014 09:50 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Currently on page 10 and posting as i read. I don't know if these questions have already been answered. Also expect double/triple/octuple/whatever posts, i don't care if it's against the rules, it's necessary.


It isn't necessary, you could have consolidated your 7 questions into one post.

I think it's interesting that damdred and his buddy mages are scum reading each other.

What makes you feel that i don't care if my questions are answered?


Because you didn't post them in a way that was easy to answer. Be honest: as long as no one is voting you or talking about voting you, you don't care about those questions.

Honestly...i do, although i would say that even if i didn't so what you're currently reading is completely pointless.
Also i fail to see how they're not easy to answer.

Do you actually have reads on anyone? Do you have reasons to vote someone other than me for something they've actually done in this game?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 04:07 GMT
#475
On August 12 2014 12:18 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 12:13 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 12 2014 10:52 batsnacks wrote:
I think it's interesting that damdred and his buddy mages are scum reading each other.


interesting in what way


I think Damdred told his buddy about this awesome site for playing mafia called tl.net. And now someone who plays similarly to Damdred is playing with us; his name is mages. If this is true, isn't interesting that during their first game playing together here, that they would scum read each other?

I would expect friends from another site to form some kind of initial camaraderie around each other in their first game together on this site. The fact that Damdred is so quick to scum read his buddy, indicates the seriousness of his conviction.

Mages didn't really scumread Damdred and Damdred is voting Mages because Mages pressure voted me and made a post that looked like he was calling Damdred scum and then didn't follow that up with a vote. There really isn't much to his case. Do you have any reasons for thinking Mages is scum other than that Damdred does?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 04:12 GMT
#477
On August 12 2014 12:51 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 12:41 Damdred wrote:
Ok so i doubt the mage wagon will get much taction at this rate so i won't push past this post until he posts some more ill keep my vote on him though.

Ok bat why is your vote on koc then? You said it wasn't a case at all. You also said you are nt giving mages a free pass (which btw i wasn't given a free pass got the crap kicked out of me three times just about). But you aren't pressuring him you'd rather vote with him...


Seems like everyone agrees with everything I've said about koc yet they still don't want me voting him. I have an hour at most left of consciousness before I won't be able to make substantial posts until the same time tomorrow night. Like I said earlier, my schools start next week. I have more work to do than is possible to finish in any realistic amount of time. I figured it was important to get a vote out in the open now while I have some time to talk about what's going on. koc looks bad to me. No one will answer those questions he asked, and if they do, nothing will ever come of them. If I were scum, koc's questions would be the first thing I'd want to respond to. That's how I feel, so I voted him, and so far no one has given me a good reason to unvote him.

The only thing you've said about me is that you don't like that i've (repeatedly) broken the no double posting rule and that you don't think anything will come of my questions, something that amounts to nothing more than a guess and even if that is the case you've given no reason as to why you think i've posted questions that i know people won't answer. You don't have a case on me, that's why people "don't want you voting me".
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 04:16 GMT
#478
On August 12 2014 13:08 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 13:07 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On August 12 2014 12:18 batsnacks wrote:
On August 12 2014 12:13 kushm4sta wrote:
On August 12 2014 10:52 batsnacks wrote:
I think it's interesting that damdred and his buddy mages are scum reading each other.


interesting in what way


I think Damdred told his buddy about this awesome site for playing mafia called tl.net. And now someone who plays similarly to Damdred is playing with us; his name is mages. If this is true, isn't interesting that during their first game playing together here, that they would scum read each other?

I would expect friends from another site to form some kind of initial camaraderie around each other in their first game together on this site. The fact that Damdred is so quick to scum read his buddy, indicates the seriousness of his conviction.

Mages didn't really scumread Damdred and Damdred is voting Mages because Mages pressure voted me and made a post that looked like he was calling Damdred scum and then didn't follow that up with a vote. There really isn't much to his case. Do you have any reasons for thinking Mages is scum other than that Damdred does?


No, I don't have any reasons for thinking mages is scum. I never said I thought he was. I said he reminds me of Damdred.

Ok, if that's the case:
On August 12 2014 12:16 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Do you actually have reads on anyone? Do you have reasons to vote someone other than me for something they've actually done in this game?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 04:41 GMT
#480
On August 12 2014 13:20 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 13:12 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On August 12 2014 12:51 batsnacks wrote:
On August 12 2014 12:41 Damdred wrote:
Ok so i doubt the mage wagon will get much taction at this rate so i won't push past this post until he posts some more ill keep my vote on him though.

Ok bat why is your vote on koc then? You said it wasn't a case at all. You also said you are nt giving mages a free pass (which btw i wasn't given a free pass got the crap kicked out of me three times just about). But you aren't pressuring him you'd rather vote with him...


Seems like everyone agrees with everything I've said about koc yet they still don't want me voting him. I have an hour at most left of consciousness before I won't be able to make substantial posts until the same time tomorrow night. Like I said earlier, my schools start next week. I have more work to do than is possible to finish in any realistic amount of time. I figured it was important to get a vote out in the open now while I have some time to talk about what's going on. koc looks bad to me. No one will answer those questions he asked, and if they do, nothing will ever come of them. If I were scum, koc's questions would be the first thing I'd want to respond to. That's how I feel, so I voted him, and so far no one has given me a good reason to unvote him.

The only thing you've said about me is that you don't like that i've (repeatedly) broken the no double posting rule and that you don't think anything will come of my questions, something that amounts to nothing more than a guess and even if that is the case you've given no reason as to why you think i've posted questions that i know people won't answer. You don't have a case on me, that's why people "don't want you voting me".


You summed it up better than I could have. Maybe someone's going to blow my mind, answer your questions, and it will wind up being the most important play all game long. I can't predict these things. Until then, I'm satisfied with my guess. Until then, I believe you did knowingly space out your questions into multiple posts in order to make your thought process more difficult to consolidate.

On August 12 2014 13:16 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Do you actually have reads on anyone? Do you have reasons to vote someone other than me for something they've actually done in this game?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 08:19 GMT
#492
On August 12 2014 17:07 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah i guess haru. Ive been going through filters and I can't find people I want to vote.

##haru

And here i was thinking you were masons...
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 08:37 GMT
#500
On August 12 2014 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 17:07 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah i guess haru. Ive been going through filters and I can't find people I want to vote.

##haru

Haru's just joking around and not playing. As he does as scum. As town yes - he jokes - but he also plays.
mafia.

In the one other game i've played with Haru he was scum and he played quite a bit, he also didn't joke around at all.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/450895-newbie-mini-mafia-lvi?user=HaruRH&page=2

Granted you can't get a good meta from someone after playing 1 game with them but from what i've observed the reason you're voting for Haru completely backwards.
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 08:38 GMT
#501
On August 12 2014 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu could be also be scum. He should already have given a read on me as town.

Why should he have already given a read on you as town and why does him not doing that make him scum?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
TheKingOfTheCats
Profile Joined May 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 12 2014 08:40 GMT
#502
Also:
On August 12 2014 10:01 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am putting Mages to townpile aswell.

Why are you reading Mages as town?
On August 13 2014 04:46 kushm4sta wrote: koc with the worst post of all time
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