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ohaithar~ On June 19 2014 03:14 roundabound wrote: Please don't make me coach the gay guy. He's so Asian. And Canadian too! Ugh, I can't even envision a more horrendous combination of traits that a person can have. I'm Canadian-American now. Does that make things better or worse? Anyways, until roles are sent out: | ||
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On June 19 2014 14:43 MysteryMeat1 wrote: u haven't seen lord of the twinks yet! Eh, this book seems like your standard trashy romance novel. Are you sure you're reccing it? | ||
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We need to follow the Prime Directive ppl. Well, anyways. This is my third online mafia game. I've been a D1 lynch bandwagon x2, while being x2 vanilla town. clearly if i dont appear scummy d1 i ain't vanilla town huehue + Show Spoiler + Ok seriously, I will hopefully be able to not do that again I frequent TLLLOLOTGD nowadays, and I followed Nydus' LoL career back when I was closely watching the NA amateur scene (I didn't expect him to be on TL :o, but I was rooting for you). | ||
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All I can say is that Teemursu is my only solid read for me atm (as town). While Nydus has played with him before and says this behavior is alignment-null, he's instigating the scumhunting that town sorely needs early D1. As a result, I would peg him as town (or at least, a non-viable D1 lynch). That being said, I don't agree with any of the early lynch candidates thus far (as in, I don't have a strong enough read on any of them currently), and would rather lynch a lurker at this point in time. That includes scott, because his post was pretty much a non-response. Of Cats or meatpudding, if I had to choose a D1 lynch atm, I'd vote meatpudding solely based on thread contribution. -Teemu agrees with me and "thinks I'm town", which I always appreciate, but he "thinks I'm town". He could be a town, or a mafia trying to make both of us or just me look mafia. Again, completely ambiguous and I'm not sure. My general impression of mafia players in my limited experience is that they work to distance themselves as much as possible. I personally do not read too much into it atm; without a flip it's speculation. | ||
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On June 22 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote: Personally, I don't know about Teemu, partly because I don't know about video mafia. I'm going to research this further. Scum-hunting isn't essential on day 1; I think it's more of a developing point in the game but that's just my two cents. I don't like Scott's posts very much. Teemu has however been the main driver of the conversation. More (relevant) posts=good for town. It's my initial impression from someone who hasn't played with him, but he's as solid of a read as I have currently. Scott's post about modkilling (just saw that) continues the trend of non-contribution, yes. | ||
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On June 22 2014 08:58 NydusHerMain wrote: Not only that but Teemu agrees with me on TheKingOfCats. Although I agree with people that we should vote a lurker, considering the large number of lurkers and the fact that it's a newbie game, I don't think being a lurker is necessarily indicative of scum. On the other game, I do see people trying to contribute and looking scum whilst doing it. I'd rather vote on someone who I think is the scummiest than RNG a vote and potentially hit a cop. It isn't and I agree; however it is indicative to how useful they'll be to contributing to town, and I'd rather get a lurker lynch out of the way now in a newbie game, than later. If someone actively posts, it's easier to judge alignment, and gives town something to go with. If I am convinced of a player's scumminess I'll vote for him, but at present I don't feel enough of it atm. As for the possibility of hitting a lurking blue role or whatever, it is a risk, however if you are a blue role in forum mafia, the correct play for blues is generally to play like you would a vanilla townie. There's no reason to treat a blue role as anything outside of a (very nice) bonus; you're still playing town. All lurking does is make you suspicious, either to town or to scum. Don't do it guys. I do agree with you broadly, just I'd rather get a serious non-contributor out of the way, and a lurker lynch policy for a newbie game is decent incentive for newbie townies to NOT lurk, and post (which is the only way we can judge people: no/little/non-informative posts=bad for town). If people don't post they'll get mod-killed anyways, but still, low-info posts don't help town. AKA: POST GAIZ, AND CONTRIBUTE On the other game, I do see people trying to contribute and looking scum whilst doing it. That's how my D1 the past 2 newbie mafias went for me hah. Which reminds me. If anyone needs it, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=Lord Tolkien http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441178-newbie-mini-mafia-lii?user=Lord Tolkien The filters for my previous forum mafia games, which is mostly the sum of my mafia experience (minus a couple DC/MD/VA meetup mafia games). For your conveniences. I aim to improve my D1 play anyways, but it should give you a general idea how I play. At this point, based on current posts, I'd vote on Scott. No opinions on anyone excepting pointing out that we had lurkers, and the rest are just sheeple nods. Hasn't added anything to the thread, just posts to make himself appear active. | ||
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#vote Scott31337 | ||
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Bleh. Can you talk about what you think of Cats, Teemu, and meatpudding? Or myself and Nydus? | ||
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On June 22 2014 11:14 HaruRH wrote: Lord tolkien, this is the wrong way to approach forum mafia. In forum mafia, you lynch for scum ONLY, not for information/clearing lurkers/usefulness to town. We usually clear lurkers with cops and people useful to town will die quick to mafia anyway. I have a feeling you knew this. Coupled with how you wanted to go with meatpudding but went with scott just for a wagon, you're playing really scummy. ##Vote: lord tolkien If you have a solid scum read, ABSOLUTELY. Put together a case, and get them lynched, there is no excuse not to if you're town. However, absent any serious push onto a person, there's nothing to go on. You can't put together a case WITHOUT people talking and posting. If no one talks, or just makes useless posts=no one can put together a case or get good reads=useless day lynches=mafia wins with night kills. There was plenty to talk about (and there's even more to talk about now, ty HaruRH). As I noted previously, I didn't have a solid read for scum thus far into Day 1. Templar did actually explain my reasoning for starting the bandwagon on Scott, but to clarify a point: I wrote specifically that meatpudding was my, at the time, preferential bandwagon due to contribution (aka fairly minimal; he asked a person for their opinions and that's it); I noted I did not have any solid scum reads. After seeing Scott's next post (just a random agreement post, does nothing for town), I mulled it over and revised my opinion on who I would prefer to lynch first. I am perfectly willing to change my vote from Scott, as we have plenty of time during the day for him to prove he's 1) not scum and able to contribute, 2) for a a credible scum case and bandwagon to be put forward. Absent either of that, I'm leaving my vote here for now. As for Epishade and the others who HAVEN'T posted a single thing, they're either getting modkilled, or have no choice but to post and vote. Again, I can change my vote last minute, but town seriously needs to TALK MOAR. Which your push onto me should leave no excuses for. So ty, this is all I ask for atm. | ||
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On June 22 2014 14:01 jabberwockzerg wrote: Scott, do you have any experience in any mafia games elsewhere? Tolkien, why the switch from meatpudding to scott? I answered it below. On June 22 2014 12:16 Lord Tolkien wrote: Templar did actually explain my reasoning for starting the bandwagon on Scott, but to clarify a point: I wrote specifically that meatpudding was my, at the time, preferential bandwagon due to contribution (aka fairly minimal; he asked a person for their opinions and that's it); I noted I did not have any solid scum reads. After seeing Scott's next post (just a random agreement post, does nothing for town), I mulled it over and revised my opinion on who I would prefer to lynch first. tl;dr I changed my mind on Scott's next post (the irrelevant agreement with Templar) which I didn't see earlier before I posted. | ||
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For now, until I can read filters more thoroughly. That was all I asked for. My vote was purely to pressure and gauge your reaction. I'll post my thoughts (soon tm). | ||
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HaruRH: moderate Town lean, perfectly happy with your posts thus far. Your play fits your described playstyle, and the fairly quick counterpush onto me when I started the bandwagon on Scott is indicative of a town reaction to a pre-emptive bandwagon. I find it doubtful scum would have attempted a counterpush and soft-defense of Scott at that juncture, Templar: On the flip side, Templar has in his most recent posts pushed himself towards a town lean for me. I was watching him closely after he decided to voice concern and bandwagon onto Scott immediately after I did both the aforementioned things first, but his recent posts have largely been town for me. I rank him lower than Haru as town for me atm. Anyway, the game was over a year ago. wat game was over half a year ago? pls clarify 4 me Jabber: I'll be honest, I am getting a somewhat scummy feeling from jabber. The most recent post most definitely: says pudding is a townlean and votes for him afterwards? wat The posts are generally designed to appear useful, but are actually all that. He is the first one to raise the Scott=inexperienced issue (irrelevant to why I voted onto him, but still a defense of Scott when scum would probably let him burn if he was town) however, which Nydus and Teemu bandwagon onto later. Which is why only a slight scum feeling. I'd be most comfortable with a tolkien vote, but I want him to read my post about scott and react to it, defend his wagon. What is the basis of the vote, and what post? If you mean "he just seems inexperienced", I believe that's already been covered by myself (or Templar, I believe), so there's no need to rehash it. If I'm voting off people who can't/aren't contributing, it kind of points towards experience being a potential factor, I would think. Additionally, can you explain why you not only CHANGE your opinion on meatpudding from townlean to voting-for-him WHEN you say you'd be most comfortable voting for me (why don't you, there's no reason to wait, wat), AND change your opinion on Cats from "I like his posts" to "I'm on the fence" about him. Plz explain, they seem rather large discrepancies in your behavior. Scott: Take that vote off yourself THIS INSTANT YOUNG MAN >   Ok but seriously, I was mostly pressuring you to give us reads of some sort. Your first response was to ignore the question about Cats/meat I believe, then randomly agreeing with Templar was also deliberately non-responsive. Given no one else was doing anything decisive, I figured I may as well go for some pressure. You're on my watch list, as there are things about your list that I don't like. And I know how it is to get D1 pressured. That's the position I was in the past 2 newbie mafia games. Just FOCUS ON CONTRIBUTING to town and you'll be fine. Mysterymeat: I never indicated I thought Cat was more scummy. wat? Meatpudding: Any defense for yourself? You appear to be a prime lynch candidate. What do you think of Cats? Epishade: has a good initial post. Best of the former lurker posts ATM. Town lean. Everyone is mixed or slightly scummy. Teemu in particular has had a string of bad posts which make me doubt him. He doesn't say anything about the noticeable push onto Scott I (and Templar) made, or the spat between myself and Haru when we were on. He talks about how it doesn't change his opinion of Templar, but doesn't say anything about it until he quotes zabber hours later. Still says nothing about me. Final note before I head out for a few hours: town will need to consolidate votes onto a few choice bandwagons, to keep scum from influencing votes. Let's outline the main lynch candidates for today, shall we? I'll be back soon with more reads and shit. ~Valar Lurkgulis~ All Lurkers Must Die | ||
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