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JarJarDrinks
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JarJarDrinks
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Rayn - I don't think scum would have the balls to push hard for a massclaim. I also agree w/ alot of what he's saying. In particular the stuff about alaska. top town read atm alaskaslam - Yeah I don't see how we don't lynch him. I'm always about the low risk play. Basically he's either mafia or not town. Lynching him is pretty automatic IMO tehpoof - it's been kinda mentioned, but this really sounds like a scumslip to me On March 31 2014 03:05 Tehpoofter wrote: I agree we should lynch the guy wanting to kill not mafia. like my first thought after reading alaskas claim was "What if he's lying?" poofter doesn't even seem to consider it. Which is even stranger since he had a pretty strong scumread on alaska to begin with: On March 30 2014 12:20 Tehpoofter wrote: So Things I know about Alakaslam: 1) He says he loves being mafia errr cyberman. 2) Based on the huge sample size of 1 game I've played with Slam he posted never as town. He seems happy and has posted more in 14 pages than he did in 200+ pages last game as town. Clear mafia here!!! WE GOT EM BOYS!!! ## Vote: Alakaslam Like, how does he go from that to "Oh ur 3rd party? ok lets lynch rayn for pushing you!" ??? More tomorrow. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On March 31 2014 13:48 thrawn2112 wrote: I thought I did:hey jarjar. if you want to lynch someone, it is required that you give an opinion about their alignment. On March 31 2014 13:27 JarJarDrinks wrote: If you want a percentage I'll say 35-40% chance of being scum. But I'll lynch 100% not town almost every time unless there's really obvious scum.alaskaslam - Yeah I don't see how we don't lynch him. I'm always about the low risk play. Basically he's either mafia or not town. Lynching him is pretty automatic IMO | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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Gonna respond to it shortly. | ||
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On March 31 2014 17:55 Djodref wrote: OK, maybe I missed where rayn says that "we should lynch the survivor". What rayn says is we should lynch slam because he CLAIMED survivor. You put that in quotes like it really represents rayns PoV but it doesn't. In fact he specifically says that slam could be scum:I don't like JarJar at the moment. His analysis of poof is misinterpreting what really happened. The so-called "slip" of poof is totally reasonable because rayn was pushing slam lynch while using "we should lynch the survivor" argument the most. The way rayn is bringing this up, poof has totally the right to call him "the guy wanting to kill not mafia". He is not speaking about Slam here, but about his perception of rayn's play. On March 30 2014 19:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: You also claimed VT so there is a little chance you are mafia. On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because: 1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming 2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping" And that's my exact thinking as well. And I think that should be poofs thinking as well, especially since he had to @ least somewhat think that slam was scum since he was votign for him. Look @ this post., he's not saying that that it's because rayn thinks he's survivor. He's saying that slam IS survivor: On March 31 2014 03:02 Tehpoofter wrote: I don't think rayn is town he is playing completely different to the game I play with him before. He was aggressive but I feel like his push on Slam is an easy low hanging fruit type push. Survivor might not be town but its not mafia finding mafia > lynching the survivor. Rayn also should know that we need to look outside of just Slam either way we have to deduce how people are acting today because in an alignment swapping type setup the way you act day to day flip flopping on reads and stuff can give town good information. On March 31 2014 17:55 Djodref wrote: I assume you mean hardly relevant. And why isn't it relevent? Do you think that wasn't a real vote?On top of that, JarJar is nitpicking poof filter to point out some contradiction, but the post is quoted is one of the first posts made into this game and is hardly irrelevant. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On March 31 2014 18:18 Tehpoofter wrote: I stated my reasons for thinking it was scummy of rayn to want to auto lynch the survivor when looking for scum should be priority day 1 and survivor isn't technically scum. You took that quote out of context... How is it out of context? You're basically doing the same thing here. You're posting as if you know for a fact that slam isn't scum. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On March 30 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: So um... WTF are you doing rayn?I am now telling everyone that survivor claims should always be lynched unless there is 100% scum because: 1) they can also be mafia fakeclaiming 2) they NEVER work for the town, they are basically +1 mafia even if they look like they are "helping" Anyone who does not understand this is just plain out dumb or mafia. Period. Case closed. | ||
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On March 31 2014 23:37 JarJarDrinks wrote: FWIW I don't like kita either. I don't understand what he's saying about how he was trying to reproduce his meta from a previous game. It really makes very little sense as town.So um... WTF are you doing rayn? BUT Slam has to be the lynch today. I'm fine w/ you making the case rayn but your vote shouldn't leave slam. | ||
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On March 31 2014 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: I said if there is not sure mafia we should lynch Slam. Now there is sure mafia. I give you guarantee. He's not guaranteed mafia. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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You purposefully emulated ur meta from a previous game in order to see if someone would call you scummy for it and not check your previous game? That was your plan to trap scum? And Rayn just happened to do exactly what you were expecting to a tee? I think the only part of that that is true is that you purposefully emulated ur meta from a previous game. And I think it's cause ur scum and you did it to appear town. Thats why you were hinting for people to go read ur meta. Then you got pissed off that people were calling you scum when you made all that effort to look like you did in that game. So you retconned your "trap". | ||
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On April 01 2014 00:16 kitaman27 wrote: I just can't imagine this @ all coming from a town mindset. The only reason I can imagine someone specifically going out of their way to make their posts reproduce a previous town game is if they're scum. The "town trap" reasoning is pretty flimsy. It was more a town trap. I would have proof that a player is looking at my past games in order to draw a conclusion, showing that they were attempting to figure things out, especially since several players here were familiar with the game. I didn't anticipate that rayn would actually pick up on the behavior and promise to look back without actually doing so, but once he did I came to the conclusions that his behavior was more likely mafia for the reasons I explained. I suppose I don't have anything to say about that one. It's not what I was doing, but like I mentioned a few posts earlier, if rayn came to that conclusion it would have shown that they were filter diving still and likely town. | ||
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On April 01 2014 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is going to be my last post. Maybe i'll rub some salt into your wounds and come back and claim 5min before the deadline, just to tell how dumb you are.  rayn, if ur town then ur playing against ur wincon. | ||
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On April 01 2014 00:28 kitaman27 wrote: Well I myself said that reproducing my town play is not something that I couldn't do as mafia. You just have to decide what my intentions are. Yeah, I get that. I'm not saying that I think it's something you could do as mafia. That part is obvious. I'm saying I don't see how it's something that anyone would do as town. | ||
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On April 01 2014 01:54 kitaman27 wrote: Going after difficult targets is the last thing I'd want to do as mafia on day one. When I accuse a player, I want them to think I'm town or not put up a fight. I almost always go after the newbies because they will let me get away with it. I know rayn and kush are the types of players who will have a fit if I do so, so I'd simply pick someone like jarjar, poofter, or the easy slam vote today. Poofter is his "blind spot" supposedly and he hasn't said anything indicating he thinks I'm town. Yet he seems to know that we'd be mislynches. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On April 01 2014 01:54 kitaman27 wrote: And yet you did in fact choose difficult targets day one. Guess that means ur not mafia huh?Going after difficult targets is the last thing I'd want to do as mafia on day one. See this is exactly like the early random vote thing. You do something that you feel is a townie thing to do and then when you're still being called scum, you point out to everyone how what you're doing is town. | ||
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On April 01 2014 02:37 Vivax wrote: He says if he was scum, he'd go after me. That to me, means that he knows I'm not scum.JarJar he said he'd go after you if he were scum cause he doesn't expect you to fight back much, not cause you'd be an easy mislynch. | ||
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