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HTO Mario to retire. His post on reddit.

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DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 12:58:54
February 07 2014 05:12 GMT
#1
About 8 hours ago HTO Mario put a post up on reddit about his retirement from Starcraft.
Here's a link to the post. And here is his statement as a spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +
forgive me, English is not my native language

Hi guys I am HTOMario and I am leaving starcraft.

I've been playing starcraft since I was 8 years old. I am almost 24 now and I have loved every minute of it. I shared my passion for starcraft with my wife who I have been married to for close to 4 years now. We watch blizzcons together and stay up late to watch WCS we love every piece of it. She's into zerg <.<

On october 2010 I was watching some tournament and I said wow, what I wouldn't do to play on stage and win just once. My wife Melayna told me I was quitting my job and practicing the following morning. So incredibly supportive and really was the only person in my family to believe in what I felt was reaching at straws for me.

Over the years I've played every race to high gm and truly developed a love for mechanical units. Eventually I only played mech and eventually wound up through echo(awesome people) who told me to take LYGF's offer when they approached me. Everything truly was great and they honestly did pay everyone every month, sometimes a little later but it came through. Yesterday was the 5th, normally I get payed every 5th and this would be the second time I wasn't (my salary wasn't being paid anymore). There was some recent drama in the team with some players and overall LYGF was becoming a source of stress for me.

It's my understanding that the "new" sponsor, who also is sponsoring the February 8th tournament wasn't paying us at all. I guess something struck me when I realized that everything is going forward and we're getting more and more people but we have no finances anymore? Running tournaments with no income for the prize? Besides sc2replaystats.com/ these guys to my knowledge paid on time every time and the owner is super fucking awesome. (only sponsor who I 100% know did)

To my knowledge genius has been paid but I don't know the details on that and I've heard that a few other players were in the same boat I was.

This morning I decided to cut the stress from my life and left LYGF. Moments after doing so I qued for another game and I questioned why I even play anymore. To be honest I already felt I accomplished more then I ever could. It may not seem like much in comparison to jeadong but I was happpy even getting GM, making guides, getting pretty far in WCS tournaments but I must say the best day of my entire attempt was day 9 casting me. I was so happy that day9 recognized me. (The part where he said you know this CC is greedy!) My wife and I busted out laughing because as I placed it on his stream I told her, man I think that CC was too greedy this game) All though I loved husky and HD casting me and it was really cool! I've followed day9 for as long as I can remember. He was/is kind of my e sports hero so it meant the world to me.

I have 2 children now. Jaymi who is 2 and Jordan who is almost 7 months. I think I got what I wanted from starcraft and I really feel I gave my best. Some days practicing up to 16 hours a day but very regularly playing 10+ most days of the week. Not many people can say they got to really try to go for their dream or have the support to do so. Now after nearly 4 years I've decided that it's time to move on with my life and dedicate the next years to my family.

I know a lot of people didn't like me, sometimes I could be a huge ass. Luckily I mostly grew out of that and devoted more time to helping and teaching people my passion.

Hope I didn't make anyone fall asleep. I just wanted to share my story before I fade away. Now that I typed this out I think I wanted to type out a good bye to starcraft for myself more then to share the actual story. ^ Maybe you'll see me in a custom game now and then as I'm not 100% done playing starcraft, but it would only be to kill a few minutes now and then.

<3 Geoffrey "HTOMario" van der Spek.

WoW top reddit, you guys legitimately made my day better. Thank you for your kind words. :D


Just wanted to make sure this was public knowledge. I did a few quick searches here but couldn't see anything about it.

HTO Mario was one of the few that dared to push the boundaries of mech back when everyone else was just going bio every game. It's always sad to see an innovative player leave the game, but it's good to see that he has a positive view of what he is doing.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
February 07 2014 05:14 GMT
#2
who is he.. I just knew EG machine yesterday
Incredible Miracle
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
February 07 2014 05:14 GMT
#3
..... "retire"? From what? He is a casual player... and he never pushed boundries! Ladder on NA and everyone else has been doing mech long before Mario.
Julyzerg ftw
OneSpeed
Profile Joined June 2012
Norway47 Posts
February 07 2014 05:18 GMT
#4
Wow seriously? Btw, my grandmother stopped playing also. She retired.
Because of protoss


User was warned for this post
I only got one speed
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
February 07 2014 05:19 GMT
#5
C'mon, we need to keep our old guys...
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
February 07 2014 05:24 GMT
#6
HTOMario

Not HTC
TiberiusAk
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
February 07 2014 05:26 GMT
#7
Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed reading Mario's articles and watching his replays. Good luck to Mario and his family!
"I like the new weapon, it's solid removal with a really nice deathrattle in a mech deck. The murloc is a little confusing though, not sure why they thought shamans needed a murloc."
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12500 Posts
February 07 2014 05:27 GMT
#8
didn't a lot of people warned us about the team earlier? some quote on the line of "team is sponsored by an investor" quote.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 05:38:57
February 07 2014 05:38 GMT
#9
wrong thread oops
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 16:39:24
February 07 2014 05:43 GMT
#10
Uh, sucks that his 'team' didn't work out. But good luck to him in his life and future endeavors.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12318 Posts
February 07 2014 05:43 GMT
#11
So you're saying that the first three reactions to a retirement posts are three people saying how this guy is irrelevant and they don't care?

What the hell guys?

Gl in life Mario, thanks for the time you put in.
No will to live, no wish to die
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
February 07 2014 05:59 GMT
#12
On February 07 2014 14:43 Nebuchad wrote:
So you're saying that the first three reactions to a retirement posts are three people saying how this guy is irrelevant and they don't care?

What the hell guys?

Gl in life Mario, thanks for the time you put in.


Not saying I don't care, or that he is irrelevant. But, come on let's give praise where praise is do. And Mario creating mech is just not true.

Sad to see a semi popular member of the community go though.
Julyzerg ftw
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
February 07 2014 06:02 GMT
#13
who the heck is HTO Mario?
Fallen750
Profile Joined December 2010
United States43 Posts
February 07 2014 06:03 GMT
#14
Always sad to see someone throwing in the towel on something they have had a passion for. Best of luck to you HTOMario. Anytime I saw your stream you were always very cheerful, that will be missed.
Everything is going to be okay.
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 06:07:42
February 07 2014 06:06 GMT
#15
HTOMario is one of the most underrated and helpful members in the community. Never understood why he hadn't exploded into the limelight. (edit: probably because he is a terran foreigner) He made guides, he created his own builds, and he was good. Reminds me a lot of iEchoic from WoL actually. HTOMario is GM on KR server. Im sure those 3 posters up there are worth more to the community.
j00pdaw00p
Profile Joined December 2013
47 Posts
February 07 2014 06:19 GMT
#16
who?

User was warned for this post
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 06:27:31
February 07 2014 06:24 GMT
#17
On February 07 2014 15:06 Kokujin wrote:
HTOMario is one of the most underrated and helpful members in the community. Never understood why he hadn't exploded into the limelight. (edit: probably because he is a terran foreigner) He made guides, he created his own builds, and he was good. Reminds me a lot of iEchoic from WoL actually. HTOMario is GM on KR server. Im sure those 3 posters up there are worth more to the community.


A quick search yielded:

http://tw.battle.net/sc2/zh/profile/929147/2/HTOMario/


That's not GM, nor has he been in prior seasons. Let's not exaggerate, shall we? To this date, I still don't know if there have been any non-Korean Terran GMs on the Korean server (although, there are still some players who can do it obviously).


edit: I forgot about Major for some reason
-RusH
Profile Joined June 2012
United States240 Posts
February 07 2014 06:26 GMT
#18
On February 07 2014 15:24 SniXSniPe wrote:
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On February 07 2014 15:06 Kokujin wrote:
HTOMario is one of the most underrated and helpful members in the community. Never understood why he hadn't exploded into the limelight. (edit: probably because he is a terran foreigner) He made guides, he created his own builds, and he was good. Reminds me a lot of iEchoic from WoL actually. HTOMario is GM on KR server. Im sure those 3 posters up there are worth more to the community.


A quick search yielded:

http://tw.battle.net/sc2/zh/profile/929147/2/HTOMario/


That's not GM, nor has he been in prior seasons. Let's not exaggerate, shall we? To this date, I still don't know if there have been any non-Korean Terran GMs on the Korean server (although, there are still some players who can do it obviously).

Pretty sure Major got in. And I don't know if this is true or not but he boosted the protoss player desrow's? account to gm in kr.

I would occasionally tune in to see some mech play, gl with w/e you do.
Life..
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 06:32:23
February 07 2014 06:30 GMT
#19
On February 07 2014 15:24 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 15:06 Kokujin wrote:
HTOMario is one of the most underrated and helpful members in the community. Never understood why he hadn't exploded into the limelight. (edit: probably because he is a terran foreigner) He made guides, he created his own builds, and he was good. Reminds me a lot of iEchoic from WoL actually. HTOMario is GM on KR server. Im sure those 3 posters up there are worth more to the community.


A quick search yielded:

http://tw.battle.net/sc2/zh/profile/929147/2/HTOMario/


That's not GM, nor has he been in prior seasons. Let's not exaggerate, shall we? To this date, I still don't know if there have been any non-Korean Terran GMs on the Korean server (although, there are still some players who can do it obviously).


edit: I forgot about Major for some reason


also Chinese players play primarily on korean server, (EU and AM lag for them)

i think iG.XY or maybe another chinese terran has made it in korean GM

i heard of Mario before, something to do with mech, sucks another player is calling quits for SC2

hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
February 07 2014 06:36 GMT
#20
Oh boy, why am I not surprised that LYGF would have sponsorship problems...

Nonetheless, gl to HTOMario. People may not know him, but if you do, you would know that he pushes mech to the limit and isn't as annoying as avilo.
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