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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
On February 08 2014 04:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote: I would've agreed with you 100% if you hadn't called Mario a casual player.... >_> Yeah I should have worded that better. I respect everyone who gives pro sc2 a go, because only the top 0.1% have a chance to make an honest living off it. I mean casual as in someone who doesn't have big finishes in multiple tournaments. | ||
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Telon Petrides
Canada58 Posts
Good luck Mario in your future endeavours. You brought a lot to this community and I thank you for that. When you find your new passion, plus your work ethic, I am sure you will find future success. Enjoy your family. GLHF! | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
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AnonymousSC2
United States189 Posts
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ssg
United States1774 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Niko_Thien
Germany2671 Posts
On February 08 2014 08:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote: So, in a remarkable and unexpected twist, the team denies that Mario was not paid, while claiming to append " Bails 2 months worth of pay, and HTOMario's last 3 months of payment. ", of course with no such thing attached to the post... ~_~ They attached it now, it is in german, but I think you get the basics out of it anyway. Bails was payed via paypal, but really late on both of the listed months (24.11, 18.10) When did Bails leave? Anybody have a source maybe? HTOMarios last payment dates from the 03.01., the other payments, as you can see on the pics are much later into the month. They payer is Anton Pascal, the CEO of LYGF. There is an interview with him and Mori, a german caster: (it is only in german though) The stuff he says about LYGF is rather weird, espcially the part about their Investor, aswell as his opinion about most of the players in EU and NA GM. He claims that he isnt interested in most of them, even if they reach top 30 constantly in GM, but rather goes for koreans directly. I wonder why they contracted players like HTOMario in the first place? Anyways, the proof LYGF provided here seems legit so far, but it is still rather worrysome, that all bot one payments were serverly delayed and we don't even know if they were payed in full, as the exact amount of money is blacked out. edit: Just read some /r/starcraft for some drama before going to bed xD Here is a statement of bails: I don't understand. I can also show pictures. I was told I was going to be on the 15th of each month, and as you can see in the pictures they provided that it wasn't the 15th both times. Here you can see the payment on the 24th http://imgur.com/e1gUGMD Once I received the money I transferred it to my bank account. And this is when he cancels it the next day http://imgur.com/XT3dhEv ..now because I transferred the money that I had in my paypal to my bank I had a negative amount in my Paypal left..also in the midst of this Pascal blocked me on skype making it almost impossible to communicate with him. source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1xayg3/statement_from_lygf_management_on_recent_drama/cf9spmk | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25998 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
From the thread you linked: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/6NLQX.png) | ||
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Niko_Thien
Germany2671 Posts
On February 08 2014 09:20 MasterOfPuppets wrote: @ Niko_Thien: From the thread you linked: + Show Spoiler + Well they deleted the picture but he WAS payed something via western union 03.01. Or they potoshopped it, dunno :D the last payment before that western union transaction according to picture they had linked was at the end of nov via Paypal. I personally would be quite skepitcal about it, just want to share what I saw  | ||
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HTOMario
United States439 Posts
On February 08 2014 09:57 Niko_Thien wrote: Well they deleted the picture but he WAS payed something via western union 03.01. Or they potoshopped it, dunno :D the last payment before that western union transaction according to picture they had linked was at the end of nov via Paypal. I personally would be quite skepitcal about it, just want to share what I saw That was for december. [12/15/2013 12:06:06 AM] *** Call to Pascal Anton, duration 42:56. *** [12/15/2013 1:25:35 PM] HTOMario: Hey i forgot, when you say I recieve paypal for this month? [12/15/2013 2:18:40 PM] Pascal Anton: i have an offer for you [12/15/2013 2:18:53 PM] Pascal Anton: it will delay for 2 weeks, BUT, before you cry [12/15/2013 2:19:03 PM] Pascal Anton: on january 3rd i will pay you twice [12/15/2013 2:19:09 PM] Pascal Anton: and give you a little gift on top [12/15/2013 2:19:11 PM] Pascal Anton: how about that? [12/15/2013 2:22:11 PM] Pascal Anton: so like that i start paying again from the beginning of the month [12/15/2013 2:25:10 PM] HTOMario: That would be [12/15/2013 2:25:18 PM] HTOMario: 400+400 twice, +200 gear + gift? [12/15/2013 2:38:25 PM] Pascal Anton: ezpz [12/15/2013 2:38:33 PM] Pascal Anton: is that good? [12/15/2013 2:38:36 PM] HTOMario: ok lol sure 400$ was recieved in early january for december through western union. The rest however wasn't. You can also see that he says from the beginning of the month. As normally i'd be payed by the 5th. | ||
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EJK
United States1302 Posts
On February 08 2014 12:49 HTOMario wrote: That was for december. [12/15/2013 12:06:06 AM] *** Call to Pascal Anton, duration 42:56. *** [12/15/2013 1:25:35 PM] HTOMario: Hey i forgot, when you say I recieve paypal for this month? [12/15/2013 2:18:40 PM] Pascal Anton: i have an offer for you [12/15/2013 2:18:53 PM] Pascal Anton: it will delay for 2 weeks, BUT, before you cry [12/15/2013 2:19:03 PM] Pascal Anton: on january 3rd i will pay you twice [12/15/2013 2:19:09 PM] Pascal Anton: and give you a little gift on top [12/15/2013 2:19:11 PM] Pascal Anton: how about that? [12/15/2013 2:22:11 PM] Pascal Anton: so like that i start paying again from the beginning of the month [12/15/2013 2:25:10 PM] HTOMario: That would be [12/15/2013 2:25:18 PM] HTOMario: 400+400 twice, +200 gear + gift? [12/15/2013 2:38:25 PM] Pascal Anton: ezpz [12/15/2013 2:38:33 PM] Pascal Anton: is that good? [12/15/2013 2:38:36 PM] HTOMario: ok lol sure 400$ was recieved in early january for december through western union. The rest however wasn't. You can also see that he says from the beginning of the month. As normally i'd be payed by the 5th. 400 a month, thats pretty good pay :o | ||
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omisa
United States494 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
you can't live on $400 a month though lol. Given, that's not what the purpose of his post was XD I was surprised to see that LYGF had such a huge roster last I checked(recent signing) and wondered how they managed to keep such a large roster. I guess there was some finance problems behind the scene(at least in the last month or two). Either way, best of luck HTOMario! Hope things work out whichever direction you go in  | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On February 08 2014 14:22 BigFan wrote: you can't live on $400 a month though lol. Given, that's not what the purpose of his post was XD I was surprised to see that LYGF had such a huge roster last I checked(recent signing) and wondered how they managed to keep such a large roster. I guess there was some finance problems behind the scene(at least in the last month or two). Either way, best of luck HTOMario! Hope things work out whichever direction you go in I sure as hell could | ||
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EJK
United States1302 Posts
On February 08 2014 14:22 BigFan wrote: you can't live on $400 a month though lol. Given, that's not what the purpose of his post was XD I was surprised to see that LYGF had such a huge roster last I checked(recent signing) and wondered how they managed to keep such a large roster. I guess there was some finance problems behind the scene(at least in the last month or two). Either way, best of luck HTOMario! Hope things work out whichever direction you go in i mean if they are paying him 400 a m onth, how much you think genius and tassadar are getting? lgyf in its prime was doing at least 2,000 a month in salary. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
I don't know what it's like in the US but rent itself up here is easily $600 if shared with a roommate. $400 for food and utilities is doable but not if you include rent which was my point. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On February 08 2014 16:35 BigFan wrote: ^ well, I'm not even looking at the KR players, just HTOMario's. Either way, I explained my point below I don't know what it's like in the US but rent itself up here is easily $600 if shared with a roommate. $400 for food and utilities is doable but not if you include rent which was my point. Easily 600 huh? I'm renting by university of victoria for 400 with high speed internet, laundry, everything. These places are findable if you're willing to live in a closet. It's always going to be easier for the younger generation to chase that dream. | ||
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jackslater
Russian Federation604 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On February 07 2014 14:14 SoFrOsTy wrote: ..... "retire"? From what? He is a casual player... and he never pushed boundries! Ladder on NA and everyone else has been doing mech long before Mario. sry wtf ? he is by far the best mech player out there like 100 times better then avilo, plays mech even vs protoss his stream was the best mech stream ever and its the hugest retirement for a mech terran watcher that ever happenend so plz hold your bs for urself to topic: NOOOOOOOO dont do that i even fuckn payed for your replays  NO NO NO | ||
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