koshi - don't like how hard he's riding this marv sheep thing. he is trying too hard to look carefree.
mz - also trying too hard to look liek he doesn't give a shit with his pregame shenanigans.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2014 22:55 GMT

#518

what a cluster

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2014 23:29 GMT

#577

bh, do we really need to have this retarded random lynch discussion every game??? I feel like i have heard it a million times and it's hella boring.
You always brag about how great you are at the game, but i never see you hunting scum. You are always creating boring mechanics-drama around yourself.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2014 23:33 GMT

#580

On May 21 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:
What happened to completely ignoring BH?

BH is more likely town here. Putting himself in the spotlight of town would be stupid as mafia unless he has many partners or knows he can get multiple mislynches within the next couple of days if he has town support and it's worth his lynch.

But BH is pushing a losing cause here. He doesn't have much of support at all.

This seems like very surface level thinking to me. Why wouldn't scum want to do what they do every game? Why don't scum want to put themselves in the spotlight? Activity looks townie.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2014 23:37 GMT

#581

On May 21 2014 08:19 Tehpoofter wrote:

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On May 21 2014 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:

On May 21 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:

On May 21 2014 08:04 Blazinghand wrote:

On May 21 2014 08:01 Tehpoofter wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:50 Blazinghand wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:45 Steveling wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice

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You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise)

On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care

despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns

Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right?
Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS.

Oh wait, except me.

^^^ case in point

anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng

And if this game had no newbies in it, I'd take your statistics under advisement. Also in games like 7 town 2 scum (which it ypically use) you'd expect a 25% chance of getting scum anyways, 40% is pretty close.

On May 21 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
So Marv, you gotta admit, these whole steveling/holyflare thing is pretty silly and not worth your attention. What do you think about the possibility of an rng lynch in this setup? Could be good, yes?

As you're probably well aware, I've never RNGed, never supported RNG, and never will. Draw your own conclusions :p

I know you disagree with me philosophically about the usefulness of RNG, I just figured maybe in a massively multifactional setup you might find it alluring. Well, next time then!

On May 21 2014 07:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On May 21 2014 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
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seriously though, the story you're going with is "I realized you're right, and even if you're scum, your plan will probably work and we'll probably hit scum... but I'm not gonna follow your plan, because of ill-defind reasons"?

Actually yeah, I'm not even gonna argue with you. I play mafia for fun and us all picking an RNG then sitting back and seeing what happens doesn't seem fun to me. Plus I at least have enough faith in my own deduction and reasoning skills to think that I have just as good a chance of finding scum with analysis as RNG does.

Ok, so that's a reason. I will note though that historically, TL towns tend not to statistically significantly outperform RNG on D1. I'm not proposing RNG for no reason; I think lynching OdinofPergo is our best chance today. If nothing else, I guarantee that pulling this off will have two results

1) it will be legendary
2) it will cause a massive shitstorm because everyone hates RNG. this shitstorm will give us lots of things to base reads off of for D2

What reads do you hope to garner? Like based upon the lynch of Odin? Like who defends/pushes him? Why not just do that on someone who actually does something scummy. I think that I'd rather lose to being bad that win to RNG... I'm not playing a slot machine I'm playing mafia. RNG is bad and you should feel bad.

Why not someone else? Because RNG. RNG is the best and I feel good.

Obviously you don't really believe in the strategy. If someone thinks they're not better than RNG then they should just vote and leave the thread and come back in 48 hours and see how they did. But you clearly said you think you're a good player aka better than RNG so you don't even believe in an RNG lynch.

And I'm going to vote on who I think is scummy. Hopefully its right but even if its wrong then I will be happy that I had some influence over it and not just randomness

Last time I'm commenting on this btw as its silly and unhelpful to town.

I'm the best player in TL Mafia and I believe in RNG lynch because it's objectively the best tool. The definition of being a good player is basically using RNG lynch, in a setup like this. You don't just vote randomly and leave the thread, because most people don't do RNG lynch. You make sure everyone else follows you too. By your logic, if I have a scumread on someone, I should just vote them and leave the thread, my job is done.

Typical poof.

So lets say we had an RNG shot and a lynch. BUT you could only base one on RNG. Who do you find scummy in this thread so far that you would have to way in on for the non-RNG portion?

We don't have an RNg shot and a lynch though, we just have a lynch. Let's RNG it.

Dodging productive questions is dumb and scummy and you know it.

##Vote: Blazinghand

Contribute or die.

methinks the lady doth protest too much know what i mean?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 20 2014 23:41 GMT

#584

wos why is bh town?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 21 2014 00:19 GMT

#633

can you explain why slam is scum? im not understanding.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

May 21 2014 00:52 GMT

#663

On May 21 2014 09:25 geript wrote:

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There's a major difference in how Town slam plays from scum slam. Town Slam wants to enjoy himself and have fun despite the fact that he knows that he's not a great player and is often lynched for how he plays. Scum Slam wants at all costs to avoid being lynched because it's directly detrimental to his teammates because he's a player that already has no thread pull. So basically how Slam enters and stays in the thread, how he trolls and how he lacks trolling, how he sheeps specific people and where versus how he doesn't is alignment indicative. Town slam would just read the current page, come in, have fun and proceed back to read as necessary. Scum Slam needs to look like less of a crazy so he starts from the beginning. Like he's super EZPZ to read.

your response?