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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 24 2013 00:50 GMT
#38
/in


;D . Good luck all .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 30 2013 16:22 GMT
#207
On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
asians always get shafted wrt times ):

so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.



If apologetic-ness/ questiony-ness is suspicious, then doesn't your post sound like a bit of an apology? "You're going to "try" and make reads (Often times mafia "try" to make reads to look like they're contributing ) , and you also agree with Jonny's points but you still question parts of it because they sound like a stretch ?
I dunno, maybe i'm reading too into it or maybe i'm not but that's my town post for now .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 30 2013 17:10 GMT
#224
On October 31 2013 01:26 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:22 July617 wrote:
On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
asians always get shafted wrt times ):

so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.



If apologetic-ness/ questiony-ness is suspicious, then doesn't your post sound like a bit of an apology? "You're going to "try" and make reads (Often times mafia "try" to make reads to look like they're contributing ) , and you also agree with Jonny's points but you still question parts of it because they sound like a stretch ?
I dunno, maybe i'm reading too into it or maybe i'm not but that's my town post for now .


not enough. give more. this is the epitomy of a lurker post. and it's exactly how you posted last game.


You call it not enough , as far as I know you could be mafia or town, I know i'm town and if my post's aren't enough then do what you will , I don't plan on digging my own grave with 1000 post's of useless crap, I want to keep them precise and to the point . and if that's not enough for you balla then oh well.
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 30 2013 17:22 GMT
#232
On October 31 2013 02:08 Vanesco wrote:
OWB you haven't really contributed much to town in your posts. There are also others however you are one of the people that (to me anyways) seems like your posting more about information about how the game should be played instead of playing the game. You have only 1 real post given about some of the reads you might have and that was only that you think nyx is quiet (which all of us know) and you kinda jump on the cake train. You even mention that "There's a difference between posting useful short posts and just spam" (sorry i dont know how to link to the post, I'm TL newbie) yet I haven't seen anything useful about your posts.



Vanesco I understand your new, but reminding us that you're new isn't helping your case. People are looking for someone to lynch and you aren't helping yourself at all right now.
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 30 2013 17:27 GMT
#235
On October 31 2013 02:26 Vanesco wrote:
WHAT??? I am only saying that I am new to TL and cannot post a link back to the post which I am mentioning for convenience sake. But I am not new to the game of mafia and to me it seems like your just grasping for anything that has just happened.


I don't need to grasp when you're doing the digging yourself .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 30 2013 18:02 GMT
#246
On October 31 2013 02:57 E00e wrote:
My posts are my thoughts about the game arent they?
Jonny's and July's posts seem off because they are inconsistent.



How so ? :3 . Enlighten me .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 30 2013 18:41 GMT
#254
On October 31 2013 03:29 Balla24 wrote:
Ok. That's helpful.

I have a town read on vanesco: reason being is at the VERY start of the game, he paired cake/me because cake was suposedly deflecting off of me onto Storr. This is not a scum play: as scum, you know who is not scum and pairing another player with who you are pushing isn't helpful to you.

I'm not sure about cake still... but I agree that we can save him for later, i'd like to pressure July more personally, so I'll let the little banter between him and Vanesco continue.



The banter between us wont continue because i don't want to play bad town and get into a pointless argument . Bad town or not it's useless posting and I dont need anymore useless posts on here.
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 30 2013 19:12 GMT
#260
On October 31 2013 03:50 Balla24 wrote:
So why did you start it in the first place if you feel like its useless? Why is it so hard for you to post a lot of useful stuff? Do you not know what you're looking for? I don't get it.


Because when I read what other people post, i just don't see what they're grasping for . Now imagine if you felt like that most of the game. People will obviously call you scum when in reality i'd just like a clearer explanation.
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 17:01 GMT
#408
On November 01 2013 01:57 Balla24 wrote:
JonnyLaw, do you really think you can get votes on Odin? At this point, you're the one throwing town into chaos by bringing up yet ANOTHER lynch target.


Sounds like a mafia play to me .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 17:08 GMT
#417
On November 01 2013 02:02 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:01 July617 wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:57 Balla24 wrote:
JonnyLaw, do you really think you can get votes on Odin? At this point, you're the one throwing town into chaos by bringing up yet ANOTHER lynch target.


Sounds like a mafia play to me .


By who? Jonny or me?


Jonny, that and his anger towards my post saying it looked like a mafia play reads scum .

Jonny you're shit flinging here too man , you're throwing in more and more lynch options when it's majority lynch with not much time left.

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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 18:04 GMT
#441
On November 01 2013 02:51 Balla24 wrote:
Also, literally everybody has been jumping on July, whereas only me and Obzy have jumped on Storr. Everybody on July makes me very weary.



It makes me weary that people are bandwagoning all over the place.

cake man you switched your vote from Tehpoofter to me and your reasoning is what exactly ? "I understand the suspicion on Jonny. But I don't think he can/should be lynched today." < - Why shouldn't he be lynched today you aren't supporting your vote on me you're writing nonsense and hoping that passes as an explanation.

In your last line you write "I'm feeling that July's the one most people have their eyes on. Aside from maybe E00e, who I think has posted better than July" <- What does "posted better" really mean? E00e could be mafia and the only reason you're not suspicious of him is because he post's better?

Voting for someone because of the frequency of there posts or the lack of content in there posts isn't a good reason. You're all looking at my post's trying to make yourselves believe i'm scum when in reality i'm not .

And finally a last bit of your post where you state " Most people seem to be suspecting July, E00e, or Storr. I'm not too sure about opinions on other people, but let's pick from one of those, unless a lot of people come out and claim vote desires that I haven't picked up on. " << You're siding with a majority when you should be looking at every player as scum , why did they vote this way instead of that, what was the reasoning behind it , and why should we believe they are/aren't mafia . These are the questions i think we should be asking .

##Vote: No Vote
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 18:08 GMT
#445
On November 01 2013 03:07 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 03:04 July617 wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:51 Balla24 wrote:
Also, literally everybody has been jumping on July, whereas only me and Obzy have jumped on Storr. Everybody on July makes me very weary.



It makes me weary that people are bandwagoning all over the place.

cake man you switched your vote from Tehpoofter to me and your reasoning is what exactly ? "I understand the suspicion on Jonny. But I don't think he can/should be lynched today." < - Why shouldn't he be lynched today you aren't supporting your vote on me you're writing nonsense and hoping that passes as an explanation.

In your last line you write "I'm feeling that July's the one most people have their eyes on. Aside from maybe E00e, who I think has posted better than July" <- What does "posted better" really mean? E00e could be mafia and the only reason you're not suspicious of him is because he post's better?

Voting for someone because of the frequency of there posts or the lack of content in there posts isn't a good reason. You're all looking at my post's trying to make yourselves believe i'm scum when in reality i'm not .

And finally a last bit of your post where you state " Most people seem to be suspecting July, E00e, or Storr. I'm not too sure about opinions on other people, but let's pick from one of those, unless a lot of people come out and claim vote desires that I haven't picked up on. " << You're siding with a majority when you should be looking at every player as scum , why did they vote this way instead of that, what was the reasoning behind it , and why should we believe they are/aren't mafia . These are the questions i think we should be asking .

##Vote: No Vote


You realize we need 7 votes on anybody to kill them. We literally will eventually have to bandwagon on someone. That's why we have to narrow down the suspects to people that will possibly get lynched, instead of having everybody open for discussion.

Why vote for a No vote?


Voting for a no vote because day one isn't getting us anything solid at least in my opinion . let someone die and then we can see who mafia is targeting .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 18:18 GMT
#450
On November 01 2013 03:09 Balla24 wrote:
July, what do you think about Jonnylaw?


He's acting allot like Sagaz did in our last game and Sagaz turned out to be mafia, he's really agro for no apparent reason, attacking nyx mostly in his filter on page 2 and then grasping for straws on page 3 . Suspicious yes, either way whoever dies tonight we'll see what they flip whether they be town / mafia / or blue, I honestly feel like we're going in circles here, I'd like to just lynch and be done with it and see what happens day 2. I don't think we're going to get anything more from today, not unless someone screws up and slips .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 19:42 GMT
#475
On November 01 2013 04:41 Balla24 wrote:
Alright, I'd really like people to consider a JonnyLaw lynch. I don't really like the July/E00e lynches and the only reason i'd be willing to lynch them is because they are mostly lurking.

As far as Jonnylaw, it's clear he's not going to get the votes on Odin yet he continues to push for him and doesn't switch his votes to the targets he says he's ok with lynching which would be the most pro-town thing to do since we're in majority lynch.

I'm very confused as to why he wasn't ok with lynching Storr, when storr was lurking just as much as July/E00e/Nyx etc.. just because he thought "storr would post before deadline".


Do i smell mafia circles forming?
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 19:59 GMT
#486
##Vote Tehpoofter

Reasoning : He hasn't been seen since page 20, if we're all for lynching lurkers then I think he's the way to go .

(I'll take my vote off if he does give a good read, until then i stand by my vote)
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 20:26 GMT
#504
On November 01 2013 05:16 cakemanofdoom wrote:
I don't like how July suddenly picked poofter (who had 0 votes beforehand) out of the lurky people to vote for. It can only cause confusion at this point. I wanna keep my vote on July atm.

I guess I'm suspicious of odin enough to vote for him if it comes down to him. I don't have a lot of trust for the current voters, but I'm not trusting a lot people in the game period so I guess there's no way around that.



Cake i picked him because he's inactive and I though lynching inactive was a priority|?
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 20:58 GMT
#520
On November 01 2013 05:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
I'm just getting into the meat of this and seeing that we're actually getting discussion going and seem to be narrowing in on some lynches which is good for town we need to get a lynch today and with majority being in favor its going to take some cooperation.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 05:26 July617 wrote:
Cake i picked him because he's inactive and I though lynching inactive was a priority|?


I have easily double the amount of posts than you with defenses, questions, summations, accusations and discussion. Your posts have been very short (excluding the post you made to unvote where I think not voting is an awful idea and don't agree with) and all over the place. This to me either reads as very sloppy town play or confusion based mafia play. We have basically 3 people who had a decent amount of votes when you voted for me and at the time I had none point being not that it was on me but because it goes against getting a majority lynch which is the goal of today. However, your accusation on me is silly as I have clearly been posting a lot it seems like you just looked back and saw the person who hadn't posted in the longest amount of time and picked them.

Also even if people think I haven't been active who said lynching inactive was priority? Its more of a if we can't get a scum read we go with an inactive that could be scum first. Catching scum is priority over someone who doesn't talk. (Which I have been.)

I also would like to point out that your post right before was:

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 04:42 July617 wrote:
On November 01 2013 04:41 Balla24 wrote:
Alright, I'd really like people to consider a JonnyLaw lynch. I don't really like the July/E00e lynches and the only reason i'd be willing to lynch them is because they are mostly lurking.

As far as Jonnylaw, it's clear he's not going to get the votes on Odin yet he continues to push for him and doesn't switch his votes to the targets he says he's ok with lynching which would be the most pro-town thing to do since we're in majority lynch.

I'm very confused as to why he wasn't ok with lynching Storr, when storr was lurking just as much as July/E00e/Nyx etc.. just because he thought "storr would post before deadline".


Do i smell mafia circles forming?


Where you referenced a circle which rereading the post I'm not 100% sure on who you were even claiming in your circle if you're going to make an accusation put it down, dropping hints like that is scummy and only causes confusion. Make your reads clear. But, from what I gather of the possibilities of circles from the post you quoted I was not in any of them So why in your very next post would you suddenly switch your vote to me? It doesn't make sense.

I have more to say about E00e's defense and I will explain that in my next post but don't want a large wall of text cause I know this is already pretty big.

##Unvote
##Vote July617


I switched my vote to you because you were inactive, and apparently people don't like a no lynch, they wanted me to vote for someone so i voted for the person who I thought was a safe vote (I.E I knew you wouldn't get lynched)
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 21:09 GMT
#524
It was nice playing with you guys ^_^ Good luck hunting scum .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 22:01 GMT
#547
On November 01 2013 06:59 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 06:56 Obzy wrote:
On November 01 2013 06:45 JonnyLaw wrote:
As the deadline approaches I still don't see how july is the best lynch target. July's posting with confidence albeit it's not good.

If july flips town what have we learned? Absolutely nothing.

Even E00e is better because he condemned Odin so harshly.
Storr is even better at this point. He's still failing to contribute anything useful.

Fuck it, if we need 7th vote I'm doing it but I see no gain of information from July's shitposting.


This post makes me want to lynch Jonny a little bit, I'll be honest. July hasn't posted anything useful. If he had, we'd learn something 'after he flips town.' That said, "July's posting with confidence" - wth? E00e being a better lynch because he condemned Jonny's primary scumread? Storr being better because he hasn't changed from before? I don't want to lynch you today, but this post makes you look absolutely awful if July flips town. =l

(If he flips scum, you don't exactly look much better for it, though)


The good thing about that post is that it now DOES give us information when July flips ^_^


I'm just letting you know now i'm flipping town , so when i am lynched use that information and win .
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July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 31 2013 22:04 GMT
#550
On November 01 2013 07:01 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 07:00 JonnyLaw wrote:
No, if E00e flips town I feel okay dropping odin as a read.

Are you kidding me Obzy? July's said whatever he wants all game not caring what anyone else has said about him. If that's not confidence it's stupidity if he's scum. I believe most players in this game are not stupid.


Well then I encourage you to read his filter from last game..



Not related to the game here but can you please stop insulting me, I understand i play shit town, you don't need to call me stupid every other post.
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