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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 02 2013 22:26 GMT
#702
Hi guys. I'm actually headed out shortly so I wont be caught up until tomorrow evening at the earliest. Thankfully its nighttime so I have some time. If you have anything you would like me to focus on when I go to read the thread (I haven't yet) please let me know. kthxbai.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2013 18:00 GMT
#800
On November 04 2013 02:55 Pandain wrote:
Hopeless come and post

Postgame discussions don't require analysis. Im also on my phone keeping up to date since I replaced but I still haven't read this thread past page 7 (but I'm up to date since my first and previously only post to this playerslot that you managed to equate to a scum read, like are you kidding me?)
I told you I'll catch up for this evening. Deal with it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 00:07 GMT
#833
I'm still on my phone but basically caught up. Asinine is #1 choice to lynch.

##Vote Asinine
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 00:22 GMT
#835
LJ trying to control the spam between grack and oats reads very townie to me.
I am almost unaware of bereft being in the game tbh. I'll reread that filter first when I get to my computer.
There are a multitude of reasons to choose from for why to lynch asinine. Pandain basically said we have no choice but to Lynch him and I agree with that statement.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 00:35 GMT
#837
Yeah he's having an existential crisis, he'll come around.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 01:06 GMT
#842
Around 2 hours pandain.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 01:11 GMT
#844
Hiro I think that countdown is broken. It says 0m 0s at the time of this post =/
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 02:18 GMT
#849
Pandain do you find the promise to "get to oats" and then afk for an hour scummy on asinine's part? Or dejected town who thinks he's being vigged?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 02:26 GMT
#851
I'm voting him aren't I? I'm trying to get you back on the wagon.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 02:33 GMT
#856
Lol like a set of twins over there. Still phoneposting give me like 40 minutes for bereft
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 03:14 GMT
#869
thats slightly different grack, CR was trying to pull the too scummy to be scum card. His slot was already hooped by the time he "replaced" in, and I use the term replacement loosely considering the level of commitment he was able to provide.

Asinine on the other hand demonstrated he had at least some time, was up to date and following the thread, and was supposedly making reads of all the players he found scummy. I don't like his analyses but I'll get to that tomorrow if/when town needs further convincing to lynch Asinine.

I've just opened bereft's filter, going to read through and gather what context I can, so it wont be an instant "oh its only 2 pages" read.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 03:39 GMT
#873
k finished bereft's filter, I'm getting a town vibe..
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 03:48 GMT
#878
On November 04 2013 12:41 Mig wrote:
Hopeless you have no problem with bereft voting pandain for "pressure" then disappearing while there was a contested lynch between a mafia and town?

its obviously less than ideal, and when you consider the lack of perceived resistance to fuba's lynch I can now understand why people have jumped to the conclusion that the remaining scum are in the /afk's. However, I don't think bereft was around or she'd have managed to get her vote onto a meaningful candidate. The apathy for the lynch to me suggests a townie mindset of not knowing who to vote and just parking it on the RNG, then not having time to play for the remainder of the day.

She's now hiding behind the grackapack's supreme wisdom, but they're almost confirmed town. I know I just sheeped the Innocent Child in Hogwarts for a good deal of the game, so I can see it happening.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 04:10 GMT
#882
On November 04 2013 12:54 Mig wrote:
I see, would you have said the same thing about oat's vote on pandain?

Any reservations about Oats targeting asinine before he died?

you mean this vote:
On November 01 2013 11:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Talk to me about Pandain Grack.
##vote Pandain
His vote on me and him not commentating on anything else is bad and scummy.

?

Because that's not herpderp RNG k I'm /afk now

-> Thats faking a scumread via OMGUS. Granted, I'm channeling some Captain Hindsight in that assessment, but Oats' vote is not even remotely similar to Bereft's,



As to Oats "targetting" Asinine, he was throwing names out like they were going out of style. Then he died. At that point, its WIFOM and I consider Asinine's filter to be a far more compelling reason to lynch him than any lingering doubts from Oats' filter. I understand that Oats specifically said "lynch Asinine tomorrow" but he had zero presence with which to push that lynch. Based on my scumread on Asinine, I conclude they were trying to go for a counterbus so one of them walked away with towncred.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 04:23 GMT
#885
The initial reasoning for the votes, and the alternate suspicions demonstrated color Oats' /afk vote in a much more scummy light when compared to Bereft's /afk vote.

For Asinine's scumbuddy, I'd believe stutters most easily right now, but pooft and odin could fit. I have varying degrees of townreads on the rest of the players.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 04:25 GMT
#886
hmm okay now looking at the votes lots of this doesnt make sense. Asinine is objectively the absolute scummiest person in the game right now, but mafia lose if he is in fact scum. I dunno...I feel like my hands are tied, but I now get where Pandain is coming from wanting to look elsewhere.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 16:41 GMT
#902
can we just clear out Asinine and proceed from there?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 16:45 GMT
#904
What is there to discuss? The guy needs to die. We all agree on it, don't we?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 17:31 GMT
#913
On November 05 2013 02:26 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 01:56 Mig wrote:
So no one has a problem that every single person besides me/grack/odin has essentially voted for asinine?
I think it's very likely that you're his teammate.

Everyone go look @ migs filter. Specifically night 1. He's totally anti-asinine throughout the whole night. Then after Oats flips and the mafia are a lynch away from losing, his attitude towards asinine totally changes and he starts looking for any reason not to lynch him.

All the more reason to lynch Asinine. Dont fight it guys, it'll be okay.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 04 2013 17:56 GMT
#924
It would appear I have misjudged you Pandain. Nevertheless Asinine will be lynched today. We won't need you after all.
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