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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 07 2013 18:26 GMT
#79
/in
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#300
Sn0_Man seems town based on essentially nothing, lets not ban him.

I wouldn't bother sending in submissions for that contest, my house will CLEARLY win it.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 16 2013 20:20 GMT
#307
On October 17 2013 05:16 Pandain wrote:
Grack is town pretty obvious so far

How is that pretty obvious?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 05:33 GMT
#509
I wouldn't bother with the statistical probability of there being mafia in only two houses. It's almost certain that roles have abilities that at least somewhat match their flavor and they were designed before their houses were RNGed. That is to say, mafia characters and roles were designed before any RNG and therefore their houses were not chosen randomly. Even if mafia has fake claims the same thing applies; the fake claims must match their house flavors and it seems very unlikely that those fake claims were designed after players were shuffled.

All this is quite useless at this stage, but may have some utility in the end game if the game is close.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 06:27 GMT
#513
On October 17 2013 13:36 Pandain wrote:
From what has resulted so far there are some very good observations that can be made.
[list]
[*]Grack is playing like his playstyle in Thug Life, although it isn't conclusive it reads to me he is town.

[*]Griffindor is me, Vayne, justanothertownie, Cephiro, Stutters695, and Rayne/Koshi.

[*]I am not going to be participating in the pick-up line contest as I am suspicious of three lurkers in my house and then Vayne has always been hard for me.

[*]Grackaroni, however, you know you are town and you have good players in your house. Why do you not try to get the item and then convince what is most likely a majority of townies to use it in a town aspect. .


[*]StorrZerg pushes someone but then never follows up, has your read changed Storr? I actually don't think this is that scummy but it is interesting.

Do you genuinely think this is a list of "very good observations"? The only actual "observation" of any note and utility is the first one and I would like you to elaborate on that a bit. Did you believe he was playing his Thug Life playstyle when I initially asked as to why you thought he was "pretty obviously" town or was that based on something else?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 06:32 GMT
#514
On October 17 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing

The mocking of the hufflepuffs will not stand. This man has the blood of the Ravenclaws, for too long they have mocked us. We will have our revenge.

##Vote: Sn0_Man


Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s

Bring it on slytherin scum


you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote?
because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread.

Did you find this suspicious?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 06:52 GMT
#518
That is a very satisfactory explanation of your perspective and your posts seem much more reasonable than in the games I've seen you play as mafia.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 07:15 GMT
#522
On October 17 2013 11:57 Mattchew wrote:
shouldn't palmar and syllo be figuring out each others alignment?

im going to bed

How do you propose I do that? This post seems strange in that you imply that you have read the thread because you know we haven't been trying to do that in-thread, but if you have done that, you should also know that Palmar hasn't even posted. What was the point of that post?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 11:15 GMT
#586
I'm not familiar with Koshi's play, but that was my impression as well. Skanjab seemed like a very easy target in the sense that he looked like an easy target. Mafia instinct is to go after those, while townies are a bit more likely to stop and re-evaluate or just reach a different conclusion immediately.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 11:31 GMT
#594
On October 17 2013 20:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 20:22 LastArgument wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:18 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:17 supersoft wrote:
On October 17 2013 20:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
About me going after skanjab.
I see nobody liked it, so I'll drop that line of thinking. I might have been forcing it a bit too much there anyway.


you're dropping things pretty quickly

On October 17 2013 06:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why are you voting Cephiro?


you also dropped this question. Why didn't you feel the need to pressure me?

1) ... Well everybody says it is bad. So yeah I'll drop it.

2) Because you were just baiting people to say something.


How do you view Skanjab at the moment? Do you believe in what you wrote about him still, or what? If you're convinced that it was bad, what was it that convinced you of this?

Well, if +5 people say what you wrote was bad, and nobody says it was good. I am going to believe it was bad.
Skanjab is not a townread for me, I can vote him but wont persue him anymore. Others can do that.

This is not at all the conclusion you make for the skepticism. No one has strong feelings regarding Skanjab's alignment based on the few posts he has made so far and he could definitely be mafia. If you think he is mafia you should be pursuing him. I'm not sure what to make of your attitude as the whole "drop all suspicions immediately" is bordering too suspicious to actually be mafia territory.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 11:39 GMT
#596
I've already commented on or reacted to Pandain's opening post and his first bigger post. My general impression of Pandain's mafia play is that his posts are a bit chaotic and his interactions forced. This is purely based on recollection as I'm entirely too lazy to actually verify anything at this stage. I'm not seeing it here so far and some of the things he has said feel towny (not specifying which).
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 14:31 GMT
#627
That's a pretty underwhelming entrance, Palmar. I can't even really imagine an answer that could possibly be useful one way or another.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 14:31 GMT
#629
Did you post on the QT last night Palmar?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 17 2013 20:13 GMT
#779
Has sn0 posted anything of note on the QT? Not really liking this situation as essentially none of the active people seem like good targets and yet I'm struggling to believe that mafia could be this passive.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 06:04 GMT
#937
I'm absolutely going to make +1 posts, delurk and be lazy as much as I please. While it warms my heart that you are going after me for not being useful so far, I'm not really a fan of how you are going about it. I'm not avoiding talking about anything - that's a complete fabrication or an overly zealous and poor attempt at establishing connections. Did you truly consider the fact I didn't mention Onegu suspicious? None of the people posting around that time did either. Do you want to re-evaluate your position or is that how you genuinely feel?

It's fine to find my in-thread play so far lacking, but that post is you are focusing on is irrelevant.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 06:48 GMT
#942
Not much there to comment, I think. Palmar's play is definitely not justifiable "in a good way" from a town perspective, but I could see town Palmar playing like this anyway. If he doesn't start playing by day 2 or even before n1 ends, we'll lynch or vig him. Right now essentially my only issue with Palmar being mafia is that playing like this is incredibly inconsiderate towards his team.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 06:52 GMT
#943
On October 18 2013 15:13 Mocsta wrote:
Active lurker syllo

Why are you resorting to fallacious: argumentum ad populum?

What, because others did not find your effort to ignore onegu suspicious, the act is not suspicious?

That you reciprocate to my observation the way you, warms my heart as well.

.....

So.. whose scum syllo?

I've been active lurking whole game, as evidenced by my posting on the QT and the lack thereof in here. Reading the thread and not posting isn't indicative of much unless there is actually something worth commentating on. Indeed, actively keeping up with the thread is a town tell if anything.

That's not argumentum ad populum. I did not suggest that ignoring Onegu is right or wrong, but rather that it's irrelevant. The point was that no one else was commenting on him either, but for whatever reason me not mentioning him in that one post was somehow suspicious even though I also did not mention 22 other players in the game.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 07:06 GMT
#945
I'll let you know who I'm voting before the day ends. I realize that this reply isn't satisfactory to you, but you should stop worrying about me and move on as unfortunately I've been given a license not to answer any questions in this game.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 07:18 GMT
#947
There's almost no material at all, but the little that is there is somewhat suspicious for the reasons Echelontree stated. However, he has not replied to my inquiries on our QT either and seems to just not be here. He also apologizes there for his activity; perhaps he really is sorry for not having time. He is essentially a complete gamble.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 18 2013 07:27 GMT
#949
If that's accurate, then he is definitely even worse lynch and ET looks worse for supposedly looking at his previous games and possibly misrepresenting his style. I've reasons for preferring QT over the thread, but I don't want to elaborate on that. Don't read too much into that, it's just a matter of utilizing the QT for some possible benefit.
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