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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 29 2013 22:50 GMT
#31
This is just normal mini yes? /in
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 04:52 GMT
#171
Ok, I have no idea what I just read. BH can you roughly rank your reads? I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish right now.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 05:16 GMT
#188
Holyflare you mentioned earlier something about digging into people's playstyles. What do you mean by that / do you have some results or something?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 05:21 GMT
#190
Cool, take your time with that, I'm not too into meta so no need to follow up on that with me.

I think Holyflare is pretty town.

Liking Risen the least.

Anyone hear to talk beside HF? (you can go to sleep we can talk tomorrow )
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 05:39 GMT
#192
It's ok, I am getting supes tired too / gonna clock out any minute now.

Nothing too alarming from Oats for me. Seems like ol' Oats from back whenever I last played with him.

Agree / no?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 06:08 GMT
#194
I don't get it. I don't think I'm giving Oats special Oats slack when I say that nothing he has done is particularly bad.

Is your primary concern the "putting of words in your mouth"? Is Oats using faulty logic in a way that leans scum? I don't get it.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 15:02 GMT
#281
Scum marv would call scumbuddy HF scum?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 15:16 GMT
#286
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#301
On October 03 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


You will admit, though, he's all but admitted his vote is worthless.

There's quite the difference between "developing thoughts" and "voting someone based on bs"

I don't see where he has admitted his vote is worthless. Poorly placed, yea, but nowhere worthless.

As for voting with poor reasons, he says he misread the situation, made a vote on that, and then upon a more thorough inspection found his initial feels incorrect. Could be scum backtracking or could be town who made an honest mistake and a poor vote. I'm leaning the latter.

On October 03 2013 00:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


Being frazzled is exclusively a townie characteristic?

Yes his vote draws attention to him but he clearly did not read the thread in enough detail to provide good reasons for his vote, which means he possibly did not read closely enough to understand thread sentiment about HF either.


I never said it was, I'm saying that is how I'm reading it. Frazzled town rather than frazzled scum.

I agree with you that he did not read the thread in detail. I'm not arguing against that. I'm saying that both town and scum can do that and based on his general tone / manner regarding how he deals with marv's pressure makes me lean town on him. Let's push that point: what parts of his followup look more scummy than how a town in his situation would behave?


On October 03 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote:
Did slOosh really do the shoot n scoot thing? Bad slOosh.


I'm pretty busy so I will be shooting scooting in the daytime.

I'll get to Risen and HF's meta concern when I have times.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 22:40 GMT
#372
On October 03 2013 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


It's twice you've mentioned this now without any furthe explanation.

Makes marv a sad little whore.

Fluffy initial vote, little follow up, unnaturally defensive posture (w/ respect to BH). Will be reading his new big post and giving subsequent thoughts.


@HolyFlare
I'm arguing against the notion that Dirkzor did the typical scum move of parking their vote on a place where it won't be noticed and is therefore scum. That's not true.

I agree that he didn't read carefully and that he retracted his initial statement. He admits making a mistake.
On October 02 2013 22:38 Dirkzor wrote:
Maybe I didn't value that vote so highly. Maybe I did just want to stir up things to see what fell out.

I read this differently, like, he wasn't sure either kind of thing. Not a sarcastic response.


As for Oats, could you explain why his unvote is scummy? As for the meta thing, "I'm not too into meta" = "I'm not into reading into people's game history and doing all that jazz, which is what you were doing." If you have specific things about his post you can point out I'd be happy to address them without using meta.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 22:48 GMT
#373
On October 03 2013 02:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 02:01 slOosh wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


Being frazzled is exclusively a townie characteristic?

Yes his vote draws attention to him but he clearly did not read the thread in enough detail to provide good reasons for his vote, which means he possibly did not read closely enough to understand thread sentiment about HF either.


I never said it was, I'm saying that is how I'm reading it. Frazzled town rather than frazzled scum.

I agree with you that he did not read the thread in detail. I'm not arguing against that. I'm saying that both town and scum can do that and based on his general tone / manner regarding how he deals with marv's pressure makes me lean town on him. Let's push that point: what parts of his followup look more scummy than how a town in his situation would behave?


His vote on HF had faulty reasoning. Once it gets asked of him to point out HF's "sheeping of BH and his lack of contributions" he backtracks, because he has to, as either alignment.
I really would like you to specify what exactly gives you your townread.

In your eyes, how would a scum HF react differently than how he has reacted? Or if you prefer, what is it he's done that you think he wouldn't do as scum?

I think he is trying to give honestly address each question directed at him and that there is a general consistency throughout his postings / I can follow his thought process easily.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 23:00 GMT
#375
rayn, what parts of Risen's post do you find townish?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 23:09 GMT
#377
I don't understand. He calls you null. Plus if he is doing it all the time, how does it seem out of place?
On October 02 2013 23:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that marv is null, he hasnt shown much of anything either way.

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 23:20 GMT
#381
I guess you are talking about this
On October 02 2013 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause its hard to see tiny little Vote FOR DUDES.


Marv you scum?

To which I respond, how seriously do you take this post?

Like you said he calls everyone scum all the time. I don't think most of them are earnest.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 23:24 GMT
#383
Umm ... maybe? If that's the case, then I would classify it as weird, not scummy / towny.

In any case I have to S&S for about an hour. :S
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 03 2013 00:58 GMT
#387
On October 03 2013 08:26 marvellosity wrote:
alrighty. ty for your input ^^ expecting that Risen shizzle from you though :>

There's nothing too compelling in the case on Clarity. There's a potentially good point in how clarity retracted his townread of me, but given clarity's explanation and the fact that he actually draws attention to it is a plus for him.

He threw out his big case, and then just sits on it. There's no trying to convince people he is right, or even bring some attention to it, then he goes into sulking mode (immune to lynch? really?) without either trying to boil down his case into succinct points, or moving on to other stuff cause maybe he is wrong and it is a good time to regroup.

Seems like pretense of contribution to me.

Your current evaluation of Risen?


Also clarity, I can see you angling for my lynch or something. Anything you want to ask me directly?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 03 2013 02:10 GMT
#389
Ohh BH, thoughts on clarity?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 03 2013 03:18 GMT
#390
Booorinngg

The following quotes contain wiffle-waffle: Agree / Disagree?
On October 03 2013 03:01 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think that's just blazinghand being blazinghand. He likes numbers and theorycrafting so despite having a scumread on oats he considers possibilities where he's town and justifies the lynch in that case.
That's my interpretation anyway.

He has contributed quite a bit, I don't have a solid read on him but I think he's a poor lynch today.

I'd like to hear more about your thoughts on oats, and please comment on dirk as well.

On October 03 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, it's not improbable for him to be scum doing all this rng business but I can't tell. He's clearly putting effort in and that's cool.

slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 03 2013 03:20 GMT
#391
I feel good about this one.
##Vote: Clarity_nl
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 03 2013 04:30 GMT
#394
On October 03 2013 12:50 Risen wrote:
I would like more people's thoughts on my case on Clarity and Clarity's response.

I think it would be good if you distill it down to like, 2 or 3 quotes and explain how it is indicative of him being scum. That way it forces clarity to respond to the heart of the points and clears stuff up so other people can more easily lend their opinions.
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