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Kespa to release all-time Proleague statistics

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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 11:26:53
September 06 2013 09:15 GMT
#1
According to this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=428231 Kespa has announced a new sc2 Proleague season but also a Kespa Cup that will be Brood War. As there is no 100% confirmation yet (I can't read Korean either) I've posted this as a rumour.

Many questions remain however. Who will play in a BW Team League? What teams? What infrastructure? Will it be somehow merged with the Sospa structures?

Anyway, it is certainly great news if this is true.

EDIT: RUMOUR UNFOUNDED. Translation by Frost of the post in Korean:

"To celebrate the upcoming 10-year anniversary of Proleague, KeSPA will release all Proleague statistics and records starting from "KTF EVER 2003 Season" to "SK Planet 12-13 Season"

The decision to release the <Starcraft> Proleague records was reached as part of the recently announced "Next e-Sports Action Plan #1" for the fans who were curious about <Starcraft> Proleague statistics and records.

The release which has 10 years and 4 months worth of Proleague statistics will include records from "KTF EVER Proleague 2003 Season" started in March 1st, 2003 all the way up to the recent "SK Planet Starcraft2 Proleague 12-13 Season".

Total of 13 teams and 368 players have participated in Proleague until now. Lee "Flash" Young-Ho (KT) holds the record for most wins in regular season with 266 wins while Lee "Jaedong" Jae-Dong (EG) holds the record for most played games with 388 games. Also, Hong "Yellow" Jin-Ho (ex-KT) and Park "Reach" Jung-Suk (ex-KT) holds the record for longest participation in Proleague with 8 years, 3 months, and 29 days.

The released statistics can be viewed on KeSPA's website (http://www.e-sports.or.kr) and can be downloaded as an Excel file by anyone and can be shared, but cannot be used for monetary benefits. From now on, KeSPA is planning on releasing future Proleague records and statistics.

KeSPA's President Jun Byung-Hun stated, "Proleague is like a ship that has pulled Korean e-sports throughout the years. As we remember the past 10 years with our fans, we will also prepare for the next season to meet the expectations of our fans. By using the experience gained over the last 10 years, <Starcraft 2> Proleague will return in November with a reformed management of the league. We are also planning on reviving the short-term team tournaments that have disappeared since the 2007 KeSPA Cup. We will become an organization that will put in a lot of effort to meet the expectations of our fans".

Source: http://pgr21.com/pb/pb.php?id=gamenews&no=5871"
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
September 06 2013 09:22 GMT
#2
I doubt its true... but would be nice.
Total Annihilation Zero
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
September 06 2013 09:22 GMT
#3
I'm going to need more info
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 06 2013 09:26 GMT
#4
reality shift lol
this is like matrix
BW is the name of the ship !
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
September 06 2013 09:27 GMT
#5
my passion is reborn, I call eternal dibs on all LR threads.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
September 06 2013 09:30 GMT
#6
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
September 06 2013 09:32 GMT
#7
I'll take what I can get at the moment, including rumours.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 09:36 GMT
#8
On September 06 2013 18:30 Mewka wrote:
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA


I don't get this. SOSPA is a series of individual tournaments right? And Kespa cup was (and according to their intentions, will be) a short team league. How could they be merged? :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
September 06 2013 09:37 GMT
#9
On September 06 2013 18:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 18:30 Mewka wrote:
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA


I don't get this. SOSPA is a series of individual tournaments right? And Kespa cup was (and according to their intentions, will be) a short team league. How could they be merged? :/

isnt SOSPA an organization like Kespa ?
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 09:39 GMT
#10
On September 06 2013 18:37 Mewka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 18:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On September 06 2013 18:30 Mewka wrote:
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA


I don't get this. SOSPA is a series of individual tournaments right? And Kespa cup was (and according to their intentions, will be) a short team league. How could they be merged? :/

isnt SOSPA an organization like Kespa ?


Ahh I thought you were referring to the ranking tournaments my bad >_<

Still, I don't see why they would have to do that. We don't even know if it's Kespa teams only, or any team can join (in which case the SOSPA guys could make their own teams) or anything at all about the format.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
September 06 2013 09:39 GMT
#11
Happy about anothe league but loyalty is towards SOSPA. Ill choose to be happy now and deal with controversy later.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
September 06 2013 09:44 GMT
#12
On September 06 2013 18:37 Mewka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 18:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On September 06 2013 18:30 Mewka wrote:
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA


I don't get this. SOSPA is a series of individual tournaments right? And Kespa cup was (and according to their intentions, will be) a short team league. How could they be merged? :/

isnt SOSPA an organization like Kespa ?


not really its just what sonic calls his tournaments...

also relevant
On September 06 2013 17:16 larse wrote:
The KeSPA Cup is said to be Brood War.

The reason for this speculation is that it's a "reunion tournament" of the teams disbanded since 2007, so it's probably Broodwar.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
September 06 2013 09:53 GMT
#13
Crossing fingers. If this cup ends up actually being a BW cup, even if a random one, and it turns out to be highly popular, what would be the chances of KeSPA actively trying to rebuild a BW scene after that?
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
September 06 2013 09:56 GMT
#14
Dunno what to think about this. Any exposure is good, of course, but this shouldn't at all detract from what Sonic has done. Kespa should partner with Sonic. If it tries to apply any of its previous shenanigans (like banning/discouraging players from playing in SOSPA), then I don't like this.

My theory is that the current Kespa teams will all field a BW team. Since the SC2-side of many teams are downsizing (the rumored 5-6 man lineup for proleague), the rest of the players will have a choice if they want to play BW, which I feel most of them will.

The downside to this is that Flash and Jaedong might not choose BW. They've been constantly improving at SC2 and look to be on the cusp of breaking out in terms of championships and dominance. I couldn't care less if Bogus/Innovation decides to stick to SC2, or even if the other SC2 aces like CJ.herO, SKT.Rain (too bad though) prefer SC2. So long as the ones who were good in BW return to BW, I'm fine (yeah I know Bogus was decent).
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 10:01:35
September 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#15
On September 06 2013 18:56 Caladbolg wrote:
Dunno what to think about this. Any exposure is good, of course, but this shouldn't at all detract from what Sonic has done. Kespa should partner with Sonic. If it tries to apply any of its previous shenanigans (like banning/discouraging players from playing in SOSPA), then I don't like this.

My theory is that the current Kespa teams will all field a BW team. Since the SC2-side of many teams are downsizing (the rumored 5-6 man lineup for proleague), the rest of the players will have a choice if they want to play BW, which I feel most of them will.

The downside to this is that Flash and Jaedong might not choose BW. They've been constantly improving at SC2 and look to be on the cusp of breaking out in terms of championships and dominance. I couldn't care less if Bogus/Innovation decides to stick to SC2, or even if the other SC2 aces like CJ.herO, SKT.Rain (too bad though) prefer SC2. So long as the ones who were good in BW return to BW, I'm fine (yeah I know Bogus was decent).


Please keep in mind this will not be a ProLeague-style tournament, but supposedly multiple iterations in the vein of the Kespa Cup. We still don't know whether it will be at all connected to the amateur scene we have right now, and if so in what way.

Also Jaedong will almost certainly not come back considering he's pretty damn successful in SC2 and Kespa has had absolutely no control over him since he joined EG.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
September 06 2013 10:04 GMT
#16
Wow, this would be awesome! Crossing fingers.
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 06 2013 10:09 GMT
#17
oh shit.. if this is real then.. holy fuck how awesome is that !?

but im really sceptical about it.. I dont want to get super pumped and hyped and then get a reality slap in the face if it turns out to be just a rumor..
T H C makes ppl happy
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
September 06 2013 10:16 GMT
#18
doubt so. going to be kespa cup with sc2 and others games not sc 1 included.....
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 06 2013 10:16 GMT
#19
On September 06 2013 18:39 BisuDagger wrote:
Happy about anothe league but loyalty is towards SOSPA. Ill choose to be happy now and deal with controversy later.

So say we both.
En Taro Violet
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
September 06 2013 10:18 GMT
#20
God, make it happen please!!!!!
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