• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:06
CEST 21:06
KST 04:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall10HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles2[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China9Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL66Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?14FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event22
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles Program: SC2 / XSplit / OBS Scene Switcher
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays Korean Starcraft League Week 77
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall SC uni coach streams logging into betting site Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET CSL Xiamen International Invitational The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2024! Summer Games Done Quick 2025!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 695 users

Kespa to release all-time Proleague statistics

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 11:26:53
September 06 2013 09:15 GMT
#1
According to this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=428231 Kespa has announced a new sc2 Proleague season but also a Kespa Cup that will be Brood War. As there is no 100% confirmation yet (I can't read Korean either) I've posted this as a rumour.

Many questions remain however. Who will play in a BW Team League? What teams? What infrastructure? Will it be somehow merged with the Sospa structures?

Anyway, it is certainly great news if this is true.

EDIT: RUMOUR UNFOUNDED. Translation by Frost of the post in Korean:

"To celebrate the upcoming 10-year anniversary of Proleague, KeSPA will release all Proleague statistics and records starting from "KTF EVER 2003 Season" to "SK Planet 12-13 Season"

The decision to release the <Starcraft> Proleague records was reached as part of the recently announced "Next e-Sports Action Plan #1" for the fans who were curious about <Starcraft> Proleague statistics and records.

The release which has 10 years and 4 months worth of Proleague statistics will include records from "KTF EVER Proleague 2003 Season" started in March 1st, 2003 all the way up to the recent "SK Planet Starcraft2 Proleague 12-13 Season".

Total of 13 teams and 368 players have participated in Proleague until now. Lee "Flash" Young-Ho (KT) holds the record for most wins in regular season with 266 wins while Lee "Jaedong" Jae-Dong (EG) holds the record for most played games with 388 games. Also, Hong "Yellow" Jin-Ho (ex-KT) and Park "Reach" Jung-Suk (ex-KT) holds the record for longest participation in Proleague with 8 years, 3 months, and 29 days.

The released statistics can be viewed on KeSPA's website (http://www.e-sports.or.kr) and can be downloaded as an Excel file by anyone and can be shared, but cannot be used for monetary benefits. From now on, KeSPA is planning on releasing future Proleague records and statistics.

KeSPA's President Jun Byung-Hun stated, "Proleague is like a ship that has pulled Korean e-sports throughout the years. As we remember the past 10 years with our fans, we will also prepare for the next season to meet the expectations of our fans. By using the experience gained over the last 10 years, <Starcraft 2> Proleague will return in November with a reformed management of the league. We are also planning on reviving the short-term team tournaments that have disappeared since the 2007 KeSPA Cup. We will become an organization that will put in a lot of effort to meet the expectations of our fans".

Source: http://pgr21.com/pb/pb.php?id=gamenews&no=5871"
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1967 Posts
September 06 2013 09:22 GMT
#2
I doubt its true... but would be nice.
Total Annihilation Zero
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
September 06 2013 09:22 GMT
#3
I'm going to need more info
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 06 2013 09:26 GMT
#4
reality shift lol
this is like matrix
BW is the name of the ship !
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
September 06 2013 09:27 GMT
#5
my passion is reborn, I call eternal dibs on all LR threads.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
September 06 2013 09:30 GMT
#6
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
September 06 2013 09:32 GMT
#7
I'll take what I can get at the moment, including rumours.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 09:36 GMT
#8
On September 06 2013 18:30 Mewka wrote:
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA


I don't get this. SOSPA is a series of individual tournaments right? And Kespa cup was (and according to their intentions, will be) a short team league. How could they be merged? :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
September 06 2013 09:37 GMT
#9
On September 06 2013 18:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 18:30 Mewka wrote:
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA


I don't get this. SOSPA is a series of individual tournaments right? And Kespa cup was (and according to their intentions, will be) a short team league. How could they be merged? :/

isnt SOSPA an organization like Kespa ?
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
September 06 2013 09:39 GMT
#10
On September 06 2013 18:37 Mewka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 18:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On September 06 2013 18:30 Mewka wrote:
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA


I don't get this. SOSPA is a series of individual tournaments right? And Kespa cup was (and according to their intentions, will be) a short team league. How could they be merged? :/

isnt SOSPA an organization like Kespa ?


Ahh I thought you were referring to the ranking tournaments my bad >_<

Still, I don't see why they would have to do that. We don't even know if it's Kespa teams only, or any team can join (in which case the SOSPA guys could make their own teams) or anything at all about the format.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
September 06 2013 09:39 GMT
#11
Happy about anothe league but loyalty is towards SOSPA. Ill choose to be happy now and deal with controversy later.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
September 06 2013 09:44 GMT
#12
On September 06 2013 18:37 Mewka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 18:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On September 06 2013 18:30 Mewka wrote:
if it's gonna happen, it have to be merged with SOSPA


I don't get this. SOSPA is a series of individual tournaments right? And Kespa cup was (and according to their intentions, will be) a short team league. How could they be merged? :/

isnt SOSPA an organization like Kespa ?


not really its just what sonic calls his tournaments...

also relevant
On September 06 2013 17:16 larse wrote:
The KeSPA Cup is said to be Brood War.

The reason for this speculation is that it's a "reunion tournament" of the teams disbanded since 2007, so it's probably Broodwar.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
September 06 2013 09:53 GMT
#13
Crossing fingers. If this cup ends up actually being a BW cup, even if a random one, and it turns out to be highly popular, what would be the chances of KeSPA actively trying to rebuild a BW scene after that?
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
September 06 2013 09:56 GMT
#14
Dunno what to think about this. Any exposure is good, of course, but this shouldn't at all detract from what Sonic has done. Kespa should partner with Sonic. If it tries to apply any of its previous shenanigans (like banning/discouraging players from playing in SOSPA), then I don't like this.

My theory is that the current Kespa teams will all field a BW team. Since the SC2-side of many teams are downsizing (the rumored 5-6 man lineup for proleague), the rest of the players will have a choice if they want to play BW, which I feel most of them will.

The downside to this is that Flash and Jaedong might not choose BW. They've been constantly improving at SC2 and look to be on the cusp of breaking out in terms of championships and dominance. I couldn't care less if Bogus/Innovation decides to stick to SC2, or even if the other SC2 aces like CJ.herO, SKT.Rain (too bad though) prefer SC2. So long as the ones who were good in BW return to BW, I'm fine (yeah I know Bogus was decent).
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 10:01:35
September 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#15
On September 06 2013 18:56 Caladbolg wrote:
Dunno what to think about this. Any exposure is good, of course, but this shouldn't at all detract from what Sonic has done. Kespa should partner with Sonic. If it tries to apply any of its previous shenanigans (like banning/discouraging players from playing in SOSPA), then I don't like this.

My theory is that the current Kespa teams will all field a BW team. Since the SC2-side of many teams are downsizing (the rumored 5-6 man lineup for proleague), the rest of the players will have a choice if they want to play BW, which I feel most of them will.

The downside to this is that Flash and Jaedong might not choose BW. They've been constantly improving at SC2 and look to be on the cusp of breaking out in terms of championships and dominance. I couldn't care less if Bogus/Innovation decides to stick to SC2, or even if the other SC2 aces like CJ.herO, SKT.Rain (too bad though) prefer SC2. So long as the ones who were good in BW return to BW, I'm fine (yeah I know Bogus was decent).


Please keep in mind this will not be a ProLeague-style tournament, but supposedly multiple iterations in the vein of the Kespa Cup. We still don't know whether it will be at all connected to the amateur scene we have right now, and if so in what way.

Also Jaedong will almost certainly not come back considering he's pretty damn successful in SC2 and Kespa has had absolutely no control over him since he joined EG.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
September 06 2013 10:04 GMT
#16
Wow, this would be awesome! Crossing fingers.
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 06 2013 10:09 GMT
#17
oh shit.. if this is real then.. holy fuck how awesome is that !?

but im really sceptical about it.. I dont want to get super pumped and hyped and then get a reality slap in the face if it turns out to be just a rumor..
T H C makes ppl happy
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6555 Posts
September 06 2013 10:16 GMT
#18
doubt so. going to be kespa cup with sc2 and others games not sc 1 included.....
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 06 2013 10:16 GMT
#19
On September 06 2013 18:39 BisuDagger wrote:
Happy about anothe league but loyalty is towards SOSPA. Ill choose to be happy now and deal with controversy later.

So say we both.
En Taro Violet
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
September 06 2013 10:18 GMT
#20
God, make it happen please!!!!!
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
16:00
Rotti Stream Rumble 4k Edition
RotterdaM872
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 872
Hui .156
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1113
Stork 286
firebathero 224
Dewaltoss 91
Bonyth 64
sas.Sziky 49
PianO 33
Dota 2
qojqva3379
PGG 170
League of Legends
Grubby2933
Counter-Strike
fl0m1566
Fnx 1204
flusha833
shoxiejesuss228
sgares106
Other Games
Beastyqt890
B2W.Neo771
ceh9605
ToD204
KnowMe192
Mew2King153
oskar151
ArmadaUGS142
mouzStarbuck120
Trikslyr67
Sick42
ZombieGrub35
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick51811
StarCraft 2
angryscii 47
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 221
• poizon28 32
• Reevou 8
• OhrlRock 1
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 12
• Michael_bg 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2414
League of Legends
• Nemesis9173
• Jankos1779
• TFBlade1138
Other Games
• imaqtpie1776
• Shiphtur538
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 54m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 54m
WardiTV European League
20h 54m
MaNa vs sebesdes
Mixu vs Fjant
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs goblin
Gerald vs Babymarine
Krystianer vs YoungYakov
PiGosaur Monday
1d 4h
The PondCast
1d 14h
WardiTV European League
1d 16h
Jumy vs NightPhoenix
Percival vs Nicoract
ArT vs HiGhDrA
MaxPax vs Harstem
Scarlett vs Shameless
SKillous vs uThermal
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs Reynor
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Cure
FEL
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
FEL
4 days
FEL
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs QiaoGege
Dewalt vs Fengzi
Hawk vs Zhanhun
Sziky vs Mihu
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Sziky
Fengzi vs Hawk
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
FEL
5 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
QiaoGege vs Dewalt
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sziky vs Fengzi
Mihu vs Zhanhun
QiaoGege vs Zhanhun
Fengzi vs Mihu
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 20
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.