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Dear TeamLiquid,
This thread has been quite dramatic to skim through and the discourse is mostly erroneous. That said, I do want to apologize and take full responsibility for not keeping our Core Gaming under-development websites (and under-development liquipedia) on a private server prior to our official launch on September 1st. This would have mitigated any sort of trouble and skepticism stemming from misinformation and apparent inconsistencies, especially with information acquired from simple google searches.
The reason that I did not totally privatize the websites was to demonstrate to community members and players that we are a transparent organization, even in the development stage. It has worked well for the 280+ currently in Core Gaming and for our awesome players.
As I have stated in my previous posts, we will officially launch Core Gaming on September 1st and publicly announce our sponsors, vision, organization, and provide the requisite documentation to demonstrate validity and legitimacy . We will also announce on September 1st a Core live stream event, where all of our players/management will be on cam to introduce ourselves to the community (yes, including the infamous Milad).
I would also like to tell anyone currently in Core that there's no need to do any defending on threads like this. We are a great group of people with a strong community and, now, a strong rostered SC2 team. There are people who will hate us and find reasons to bash us whenever convenient, but that happens in all aspects of life. Your defensive forum comments will almost never change minds, especially for those people who ardently despise someone personally, make strawman arguments, or just like to generate hate in general. We will continue to grow our community, continue to solidify and sustain our cash flow, and do our best to be an asset to the SC2 community and TL.
I do want to thank eLeVaTiOn and Rei for their skepticism and consistent questioning of our motives and legitimacy. This type of investigatory insight is necessary to a healthy and viable community, and will hopefully dissuade illegitimate and fraudulent entities from corrupting the scene in the future.
I expect this same amount of scrutiny to apply to any new organization looking to make an impact on the SC2 scene. We have to understand that these players deserve to be treated professionally and with dignity and respect; and that tenant is fundamental to Core Gaming and it is why our organization will do its absolute best to take care of our players and community members.
I look forward to the official announcement on September 1st. I will do my best to respond to serious questions in this thread.
All the best, Neuro (Justin)
The "Executive Director" of Core Gaming
P.S. Core Facts + Show Spoiler + - Paid Roster: Wannabecool, JonSnow, Edge, Sonic, ColdScars, George/PhYsic (Coach/Cpt) - All players are paid on the 1st of every month and receive gear on an as-requested basis. All players have been paid for the month of August. They will be paid September 1st and will post on the announcement thread if requested. - Travel is not guaranteed through the duration of the first contract - All non-players and managers are forbidden to profit from Core Gaming - Website (under-development) coreprogaming.com - Two sponsors secured, will be announced September 1st - LLC processing, will be announced September 1st - Lastly.. we are the real thing
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Any second now the drama train will hit this thread.
Drum-rolls please
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I love you guys because you pay Wannabecool. He is awesome.
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If nanocloud is in anyway associated with the management of this team, it should make for some interesting times.
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good luck
You are proceeding with Milad as part of your staff after knowing all the facts the community have given to you, there is nothing else we can help you with.
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Any clan who sponsors a player, who took his name from A Song of Ice and Fire.
Is a pretty epic clan.
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So do the companies mentioned in the other thread actually exist?
CorePro Design CorePro Design LLC CoreTech Engineering LLC
The other thread says they don't exist.
Proof?
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W00t! Wannabecool!? Can't wait to see some fan favorites get cannon rushed out. I wouldn't worry too much about the drama whoring on TL, it gets kinda crazy sometimes. GL HF Neurotic!
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everyones happy now (hopefully)
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On August 13 2013 08:47 MrSexington wrote: So do the companies mentioned in the other thread actually exist?
CorePro Design CorePro Design LLC CoreTech Engineering LLC
The other thread says they don't exist.
Proof?
CorePro Design LLC is the name of the holding company. I filed the paperwork with the State of California last week. California does not have an online filing system, so you have to mail your application. On their wait log, they are currently 10 days back logged on filing requests. Click here for Processing Times . The official copy of the LLC document will be made available on the September 1st thread.
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On August 13 2013 08:46 rei wrote: good luck
You are proceeding with Milad as part of your staff after knowing all the facts the community have given to you, there is nothing else we can help you with. If something he does ends up being a fucked up situational issue, we'll clean it up and force him out. We have an internal community as well, not just 5 execs :p
And Core is a great community. We have an internal community where people hang out and we enjoy ourselves. The pro players are no different, they're welcome and always open to talk and be a member of the community. If we find someone a huge detriment and said person is intentionally destroying the community, they will be removed.
The slander about Neurotic (a la Justin Baker I believe) is unneeded by people from other places. He's an amazing person and he knows what his agenda to help our agenda is, like he helped Aeon of Storms. People claim he destroys things (a la "Muggle" and his comment about the Aeon of Storms community destruction) but he doesn't. He put a lot of money and time into this and I'll as a person hope he continues on his venture and I also hope you guys agree.
If you believe I'm droning this out because I was paid or whatever, I'm not. I've been in the community since it was building and I don't regret it. He pieced a new, less troll community for a smaller game that people enjoyed into a bigger, more successful one. And if my IP matches his, you can permaban me forever + 1 (It won't. I'm a completely unique person in my own house.)
I like what you guys do on Team Liquid but there's no need to bring distraught, aggressive drama and assaults onto the community. If you don't feel we're going in the right direction, you can suggest it to us, but you do not need to consistently assault the community.
Have a good day, and I hope that you guys can understand where I'm coming from.
-Nuparu, Community Member of Core Gaming and Completely Addicted League of Legends Player
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On August 13 2013 08:51 [Core] Neurotic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 08:47 MrSexington wrote: So do the companies mentioned in the other thread actually exist?
CorePro Design CorePro Design LLC CoreTech Engineering LLC
The other thread says they don't exist.
Proof? CorePro Design LLC is the name of the holding company. I filed the paperwork with the State of California last week. California does not have an online filing system, so you have to mail your application. On their wait log, they are currently 10 days back logged on filing requests. Click here for Processing Times . The official copy of the LLC document will be made available on the September 1st thread. people can easily query it themselves if they are interested.
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/
it takes awhile to update if you mailed in an application (bureaucracy and all, you know).
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Thanks for taking the time to respond to your critics with respect especially at a difficult situation like this.
I hope your trust in NaNoClouD is well deserved.
The community will be watching and waiting, so make sure that your 9/1 revealing is well worth it!
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I heard he mailed it in this week, so check in maybe at the end of the month and it should appear.
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On August 13 2013 09:05 hansonslee wrote: Thanks for taking the time to respond to your critics with respect especially at a difficult situation like this.
I hope your trust in NaNoClouD is well deserved.
The community will be watching and waiting, so make sure that your 9/1 revealing is well worth it!
Thank you. I do tend to trust people until I have a reason not to. I will be very diligent with this situation.
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This is just to get more attention... Please stop Core... I felt that the pitch forks was put away after the 10th page of the last thread.
Please just release your team and if you are find as a team and your team is happy then good job. But if you fuck up... then you guys are screwed.
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I still don't see a golf sponsor.... not even a sports authority, come on guys, get legit!
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On August 13 2013 09:04 Nuparu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 08:46 rei wrote: good luck
You are proceeding with Milad as part of your staff after knowing all the facts the community have given to you, there is nothing else we can help you with. If something he does ends up being a fucked up situational issue, we'll clean it up and force him out. We have an internal community as well, not just 5 execs :p And Core is a great community. We have an internal community where people hang out and we enjoy ourselves. The pro players are no different, they're welcome and always open to talk and be a member of the community. If we find someone a huge detriment and said person is intentionally destroying the community, they will be removed. The slander about Neurotic (a la Justin Baker I believe) is unneeded by people from other places. He's an amazing person and he knows what his agenda to help our agenda is, like he helped Aeon of Storms. People claim he destroys things (a la "Muggle" and his comment about the Aeon of Storms community destruction) but he doesn't. He put a lot of money and time into this and I'll as a person hope he continues on his venture and I also hope you guys agree. If you believe I'm droning this out because I was paid or whatever, I'm not. I've been in the community since it was building and I don't regret it. He pieced a new, less troll community for a smaller game that people enjoyed into a bigger, more successful one. And if my IP matches his, you can permaban me forever + 1 (It won't. I'm a completely unique person in my own house.) I like what you guys do on Team Liquid but there's no need to bring distraught, aggressive drama and assaults onto the community. If you don't feel we're going in the right direction, you can suggest it to us, but you do not need to consistently assault the community. Have a good day, and I hope that you guys can understand where I'm coming from. -Nuparu, Community Member of Core Gaming and Completely Addicted League of Legends Player admitting to boosting people's account is not consider fucked up situation for core gaming?
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On August 13 2013 09:49 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 09:04 Nuparu wrote:On August 13 2013 08:46 rei wrote: good luck
You are proceeding with Milad as part of your staff after knowing all the facts the community have given to you, there is nothing else we can help you with. If something he does ends up being a fucked up situational issue, we'll clean it up and force him out. We have an internal community as well, not just 5 execs :p And Core is a great community. We have an internal community where people hang out and we enjoy ourselves. The pro players are no different, they're welcome and always open to talk and be a member of the community. If we find someone a huge detriment and said person is intentionally destroying the community, they will be removed. The slander about Neurotic (a la Justin Baker I believe) is unneeded by people from other places. He's an amazing person and he knows what his agenda to help our agenda is, like he helped Aeon of Storms. People claim he destroys things (a la "Muggle" and his comment about the Aeon of Storms community destruction) but he doesn't. He put a lot of money and time into this and I'll as a person hope he continues on his venture and I also hope you guys agree. If you believe I'm droning this out because I was paid or whatever, I'm not. I've been in the community since it was building and I don't regret it. He pieced a new, less troll community for a smaller game that people enjoyed into a bigger, more successful one. And if my IP matches his, you can permaban me forever + 1 (It won't. I'm a completely unique person in my own house.) I like what you guys do on Team Liquid but there's no need to bring distraught, aggressive drama and assaults onto the community. If you don't feel we're going in the right direction, you can suggest it to us, but you do not need to consistently assault the community. Have a good day, and I hope that you guys can understand where I'm coming from. -Nuparu, Community Member of Core Gaming and Completely Addicted League of Legends Player admitting to boosting people's account is not consider fucked up situation for core gaming?
It is, but it's not rare. People do it quite often. Really often.
Nano just got caught for it, like a lot of people do. We don't call out those others unless they're recognizable... lol
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