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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 20:46:56
July 31 2013 20:46 GMT
#1
So we've all heard of the virgin floating hand or hover hand.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hover-hand

Hover Hand is an awkward photo pose in which the subject wraps an arm around a companion with their hand hovering away from the companion’s body. Often spotted in casual group photographs, hover hands usually signify that the person feels uncomfortable or lacks the confidence required to make physical contact.


http://thehoverhand.com/

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=129701623&page=1
(or just do a google image search of any of the terms)

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Also it doesn't only apply to virgin guys:

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Even the most adonis looking dudes are susceptible to it:

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Could celebrities be perpetrators:

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And finally, even superheroes:

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How could this be? Clearly the old men and super buff dudes have lost their V-card to a beautiful woman, right?

Well it turns out in korean culture this is called manner hand. According to khaldor in this video it is bad etiquette to show PDA (public display of affection). As it often results in anger and resentment from the surrounding people. And then bam! Kotaku releases this article and it all makes sense.

Women, it seems, appreciate the "nice guy" gesture, while men probably don't give it much thought.

By that same token, when celebs in Korea don't mind their manner hand, people tend to notice that, too! Those moments are even called "bad hand." So bad.

But why does manner hand exist and why is it more of a thing recently? Tipster Sang thinks it might be because Korean stars are wearing skimpier outfits, which makes sense to me. Also, traditionally people in Asia are less touchy-feely than Westerners with friends and colleagues, so that's why celebs might be pulling hover hands. Or perhaps, people just want to be respectful and polite.


http://kotaku.com/koreas-take-on-the-virgin-floating-hand-meme-972985745?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

Many of these individuals who are using the manner hand are incredibly good-looking, famous, and wealthy. They are not your stereotypical "hover hand virgins." But they do have good manners, it seems. Good manner hands.


Are the south koreans the best as usual? Or do we have something to teach them this time?

Poll: Which is it?

I like tortles (69)
 
47%

Manner hand (42)
 
29%

Hover/Virgin hand (35)
 
24%

146 total votes

Your vote: Which is it?

(Vote): Hover/Virgin hand
(Vote): Manner hand
(Vote): I like tortles




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zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
July 31 2013 20:54 GMT
#2
if its someone you are comfortable with putting your arm around then go for it, i dont think it shows disrespect to people around. Now if you dont think the person would appreciate you touching them, or if you aren't comfortable doing that, then just don't. Even better why bother doing the motion of putting your arm around her just take a normal picture.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
July 31 2013 21:00 GMT
#3
Put your arm around the girl, squeeze extra hard, and whisper "baby I never want to let go of you".

Then stick your tongue in her ear.

Works guaranteed! (to get you smacked in the face)

Etobaj
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1 Post
July 31 2013 21:00 GMT
#4
It doesn't matter and anyone that thinks it does needs to get outside more.
Caffeine0212
Profile Joined July 2013
United States22 Posts
July 31 2013 21:05 GMT
#5
Is all common sense ... like the post above, if your comfortable putting your arm around go for it and if not don't do it

I don;t think is disrespect at all putting your arms over if you know the person.

GG
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 31 2013 21:06 GMT
#6
I can understand why asian culture would find it more mannered and more respectable to let it hover.
But in western culture ? Heeh... Just do it if you feel like it. If she say something after, well then you know. Most girls won't get offended for that
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SilverASD
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States53 Posts
July 31 2013 21:11 GMT
#7
Maybe there is another possibility. As a person pulls out a camera to take a photo everyone goes to pose. Before everyone is ready the photographer snaps the photo. This then results in hover hands
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 31 2013 21:13 GMT
#8
I've manner handed in a couple photos before. Sometimes when someone takes a picture with you and they put their arm around you first, it feels natural to put your arm around them as well, but if they have like a big sweat stain on their back or something, I kinda don't wanna make too much contact, so I'm hoping that I can just leave my arm hovering, and the camera angle won't catch it.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 31 2013 21:15 GMT
#9
It's as manner as when my opponents manner fly off their buildings across the map when I just put them down to single digit supply.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
July 31 2013 21:18 GMT
#10
While there are certainly cultural differences, to me its not PDA if you put your hand on someone's waist or shoulder. There is a reason that in ballroom dance the man puts his hand on the woman's waist, that is to take the lead, and it has nothing to do with affection or sexuality. Granted that taking a picture is different but in my experience the hover hand is more awkward than mannered, and I think most women I know would agree.
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 21:26:38
July 31 2013 21:25 GMT
#11
I'd never hover hand even if it was my best friend's girlfriend. It's a completely normal thing to do in those circumstance and I'm a touchy person. Only feels awkward to the other person if it's awkward to you.

On August 01 2013 06:11 SilverASD wrote:
Maybe there is another possibility. As a person pulls out a camera to take a photo everyone goes to pose. Before everyone is ready the photographer snaps the photo. This then results in hover hands


This is probably the case with Brad Pitt at least. There's no way he's not comfortable touching her own wife.
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sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
July 31 2013 21:29 GMT
#12
I'm not a touchy person at all.
If I touch you or let you touch me, then I really like you.
I wouldn't do some weird hover hand thing though, I would pose a different way, then again I would probably just end up looking weirder. But I don't really care :D
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
July 31 2013 21:29 GMT
#13
That Kotaku article was hilarious

<3 manner dat hand
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ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
July 31 2013 21:50 GMT
#14
Man up. Don't read Kotaku.
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
July 31 2013 21:57 GMT
#15
hmm ive heard of manner hand. not about hover hand before but talk about overanalyzing stupid petty shit. on both sides.

so apparently brad pitt is a virgin loser in the west and anyone thats close friends comfortable with human interaction is immoral dirty scoundrels in the east. yea whatever.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
July 31 2013 22:03 GMT
#16
I think it's kind of personal to put your hand on the waist of a girl, especially if the girl is taken. if it's on the shoulder no big deal. shit.. I'm taking this thread seriously.. I MEAN I LIKE TORTLES!
"Right on" - Morrow
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
July 31 2013 22:06 GMT
#17
On August 01 2013 06:25 rEiGN~ wrote:
I'd never hover hand even if it was my best friend's girlfriend. It's a completely normal thing to do in those circumstance and I'm a touchy person. Only feels awkward to the other person if it's awkward to you.

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On August 01 2013 06:11 SilverASD wrote:
Maybe there is another possibility. As a person pulls out a camera to take a photo everyone goes to pose. Before everyone is ready the photographer snaps the photo. This then results in hover hands


This is probably the case with Brad Pitt at least. There's no way he's not comfortable touching her own wife.

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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
July 31 2013 22:08 GMT
#18
Why are we making a thread about some meme?
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