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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 01:32 GMT
#538
Hi Hi
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 02:27 GMT
#550
Generally day one scum lynches are due to weak mafia thread control, not a bus, but I haven't read anything yet.

Also, ##Vote WoS
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 02:28 GMT
#553
Also, I love scum slips, let push it!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 02:29 GMT
#554
On June 06 2013 11:27 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 11:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Generally day one scum lynches are due to weak mafia thread control, not a bus, but I haven't read anything yet.

Also, ##Vote WoS


It's night
read the rest of the day before voting lol


I know it's night. Zeph soft defending WoS!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 02:33 GMT
#560
On June 06 2013 11:31 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 11:29 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 06 2013 11:27 Zephirdd wrote:
On June 06 2013 11:27 kitaman27 wrote:
Generally day one scum lynches are due to weak mafia thread control, not a bus, but I haven't read anything yet.

Also, ##Vote WoS


It's night
read the rest of the day before voting lol


I know it's night. Zeph soft defending WoS!


tbh considering how the day went, I would defend him hard My early case was too early and wrong atm, and I dont think rayn was putting flame into a scum lynch like he did

can someone tell me what was Sentinel's slip?

((side note: sentinel does feel very inactive this game))
((other side note: I'm not sure if a scum would try to push his power role like he did))


I'm assuming its the fact that he called his vote a "bus", pre-flip.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 20:28 GMT
#605
Sentinel, if you're around could you provide a read on Ace?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 22:59 GMT
#610
I didn't have as much time as I had hoped to finish this post since I thought the deadline was an hour later, but I want to post it in case I get shot. My top two scum suspects are Ace and Sent currently. Everyone should role claim (I'm vanilla) Punish players if they offer bad alignment cop/medic/roleblocker selections.

Ace had a poor showing day one, not bringing anything of value to the table. He was late to the rayn lynch and even tried to spook people away from the lynch in the final hours. What concerns me the most is that Ace wasn't applying his own views of rayn, he is characterizing whether or not the lynch is legitimate based on the collective reasoning.

On June 06 2013 05:32 Ace wrote:
highlighted in bold. I think it is the main reason people are voting rayne. It's a pretty solid line of reasoning.


With this post, Ace establishes that there is a legitimate reason to vote rayn. Later on, he establishes the case from fuba as the argument that convinced him that rayn is scum.

On June 06 2013 05:32 Ace wrote:
If people are voting for him based on inactivity and not this case then yea we might be mislynching the guy.


On June 06 2013 07:11 Ace wrote:
For the remaining people voting for rayne do you believe he is really just inactive or just Scum?


On June 06 2013 12:03 Ace wrote:
I only attempted to switch off when we established rayne might be an inactivity lynch.


After an analysis of the votes, however Ace decides that rayn is a poor lynch. Why do the statements that Ace described as a solid line of reasoning no longer apply? If people are voting rayn for the wrong reasons, shouldn't he be convincing people to vote rayn for the right reasons, instead of trying to redirect the lynch? Even if Ace concluded that rayn was an inactivity lynch, concluding that it was a mislynch is a jump that is never adequately explained. An inactivity lynch can be valid if there is supporting evidence that the player is scum in the limited amount of posts they have. Ace never discusses rayn's posts, which should be the deciding factor when determining if the inactivity lynch is a mafia lynch or mislynch.

From the previous game, where I was a scum buddy with rayn, I noticed that on day one, he put effort into scum to scum interaction, sending me a couple of softballs, that weren't really prompted. I wouldn't put much value into this observation, but I think his interaction with Ace and layabout most closely reflect this type of interaction.

On June 06 2013 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Whether or not I sheep rayne my vote will look scummy.

Going with my gut I guess.

##unvote
##vote: raynpelikoneet


Even if you ignore the "scum slip", the thing about this post that seems the most scummy to me is the fact that he is concerned about how he appears to others. A town player votes for the player they want to lynch as scum. A mafia player is more aware of how his vote will look to others. He also appears paranoid when he makes a post stating his concern by not being mentioned by rayn.

I think he overplays his certainty of the lynch in his explanation of a previous post. In his post, he describes it as a gut read and never really indicates that rayn is the player that we should be lynching, until the lynch is already decided. Post-flip he suddenly goes from a gut read to 100% certain.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 23:01 GMT
#612
Looks like a game of avoid the medic

Fun.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 23:08 GMT
#617
Target?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#620
You honestly aren't that bad are you Wave?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 06 2013 23:12 GMT
#622
On June 07 2013 08:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
Leaning towards sentinel being town and oats being scum, but my reads have been trash thus far, probably the worst ever.


1 player flipping scum equates to your worst ever reads?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 00:24 GMT
#655
#Vote Ace

bbl
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 01:37 GMT
#682
#Unvote
#Vote Oats


bbl
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:23 GMT
#697
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:24 GMT
#700
On June 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER DUMBASS.


Make me.

Were you serious about wanting to lynch prpl?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:26 GMT
#703
On June 07 2013 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER DUMBASS.


Make me.

Were you serious about wanting to lynch prpl?

If we dont lynch Ace, my reads get infinitely less confidant.
But yeah I was.


So you think Ace pulled off a miller check on you or that the better option is to wait and get a second check before resolving things?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:26 GMT
#704
On June 07 2013 11:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


How bout you stay the hell in here for 10 minutes and write which one is scum then?


Nuh uh, I asked you first.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:28 GMT
#706
On June 07 2013 11:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER DUMBASS.


Make me.

Were you serious about wanting to lynch prpl?

If we dont lynch Ace, my reads get infinitely less confidant.
But yeah I was.


So you think Ace pulled off a miller check on you or that the better option is to wait and get a second check before resolving things?

I think Ace is lying as scum.
Why isnt that what you are thinking?


So why are you suggesting that we lynch prpl?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:32 GMT
#709
On June 07 2013 11:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:28 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
I like a 50 --> 100 percent chance of scum better than anything on the board right now but if anyone has a better plan then by all means.

It's critical to get scum down to 2 ASAP because it brings down KP to 1 so I really don't see how we can lynch outside of ace/oats.

Because it's possible they're both town you derp.


Vayne is correct. We 100% lynch between one of the two to reduce the kp.

bbl.


TALK ABOUT WHICH ONE IS BETTER DUMBASS.


Make me.

Were you serious about wanting to lynch prpl?

If we dont lynch Ace, my reads get infinitely less confidant.
But yeah I was.


So you think Ace pulled off a miller check on you or that the better option is to wait and get a second check before resolving things?

I think Ace is lying as scum.
Why isnt that what you are thinking?


So why are you suggesting that we lynch prpl?

Assuming we dont lynch Ace


But didn't you just suggest we not lynch Ace?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 07 2013 02:39 GMT
#712
On June 07 2013 08:55 Ace wrote:
Please, show me where this lack of production is?


lol, that's a silly statement.

On June 07 2013 08:55 Ace wrote:
then why wasn't I trying to turn the lynch around? For your point to be valid I would be putting a lot of effort into reversing his wagon wouldn't I?


So you are you saying you weren't trying to turn around a lynch that you believed to be a mislynch? Perhaps I'm having trouble getting things straight regarding whether or not you wanted to lynch rayn at the end of the cycle?

On June 07 2013 09:32 Ace wrote:
I'll be back after the game is over.


You're getting lynched if you afk for a second cycle. There is more to discuss past the cop check.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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