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On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote: Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while. I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today. Discuss. | ||
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There are two ways of looking at your post. First option is that you're town and legitimately think I'm scum. The second is you're scum and know I'm town and thus want to discredit me. Since you didn't present any arguments to back up your conclusion, I am inclined to think you must be scum. So until you present a believable motivation for your accusations... ##vote Oatsmaster | ||
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Do you have no intention of explaining your accusation? | ||
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On April 21 2013 23:01 TheRavensName wrote: I thought it just genuinely showed disapointment. I've always had difficulty understand what to do at the start of day 1, and I see that there really is no good way to start day 1 in a purely productive way. So I suppose your right, I'm trying to downplay what happens because it doesn't seem productive, unless of course we need to know why Yamato has many weapons that arn' t guns..... And I think its more suspicious to ask in that way rather than, just ask.... seeing as how he didn't even vote baselessly or hasn't made an ssue out of it yet. If we went after everyone who accused someone day 1 just kinda in passing, we'd never get anything resembling a case or something. Hi, I see you're new. Let's explain and hope you're town. 1. OMGUS is a stupid term and has very little relevance to determining someone's alignment. It describes what someone is doing (retaliating on someone who attacked him) without describing how he does it. The simple act of omgusing someone doesn't bear any indication to someone's alignment. The fact you feel the need to point out it is, without analysing further what it means and why it was done, suggests to me you're not thinking critically and trying to conform to what you perceive as correct play. Don't do that. 2. Voting is very irrelevant, unless someone is close to a lynch I doubt Oats gives a rat's ass about me throwing my vote his way. The question whether or not someone followed a suspicion with a vote or not answers very little about the game. 3. You seem confused as to what to do on day 1. I gave a short explanation not long ago on hapa/drh's podcast thingee. The goal of day 1 is to make people fear for their lives, which is precisely what I mean to do with Oats. 4. Again, you're misunderstanding how this game works. "If we went after everyone who accused someone day 1 just kinda in passing, we'd never get anything resembling a case or something." If we let people make baseless accusations or stupid passing comments, we're pushing mafia agenda. I don't mind lynching people for playing like mafia, in fact I'm a fan of lynching people for playing like mafia. | ||
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pro-tip: there is a correct answer to my accusations against you. So for the last time, do you not intend to give any explanation as to why you think I'm scum? | ||
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On April 21 2013 23:04 VisceraEyes wrote: I think Palmar would never make this read as scum. Discuss Almost correct. In theory I could, although unlikely, but if I was scum I would probably make a bigger deal of it, and not move on to more productive things like chasing oats. The fact you're essentially correct brings mixed feelings. I'm relieved not having to argue with you. I'm also worried you were just a tad too confident and quick to reach a fairly complicated conclusion. | ||
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On April 22 2013 01:36 kushm4sta wrote: self aware millers should always claim. that is a simple fact of the game. there is no downside to it. In a setup where their existence and numbers are known they should claim. In this setup they really shouldn't. Your responsibility as a self-aware miller in a set-up like this. Ideally we policy lynch miller claims on day one. But I want to think on it because there are a ton of stupid people around who might think it's a good idea to claim miller. You being a good example. Will explain more when I have a keyboard. | ||
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On April 22 2013 05:33 getmoript wrote: Ok. I'll tell you how it is given BH is being an enormous megalomaniac. geript and I had a QT made for ourselves, which we have been using quite happily. BH decided that we should use the QT that he made, because he's a power-mad weirdo. I said we're fine with the QT that geript and I made thank you, and BH is now swinging his dick around, saying we're forced to use a QT that he made, despite the rules saying nothing about this, and despite the rules only having this restriction, which we followed: There were no such rules for out-of-game communication other than that that BlazingHand just edited in to the rules so that he'd be justified being a douchebag. Anyway, glhf everyone!! ~marv tbh this should result in a modkill. It's super unfair to the mafia that he's allowed to reveal information about the nature of the hydra and how it interacts with the host that results in everyone just assuming they're town. It's also super unfair to town if they're somehow mafia despite all this. | ||
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On April 22 2013 06:06 Hopeless1der wrote: Palmar, are you ever going to elaborate on the bolded? geript already explained it to you. As a rule of thumb, it's more likely town players storm into the thread asap, it's certainly not very valuable, but it does have some value. | ||
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On April 22 2013 06:23 Ace wrote: Palmar what do you think our main plans of action should be right now? Besides what seems like posturing and prodding by some people, I think waiting on Bill Murray to get back is our best option. Agree/Disagree/Don't Care? I don't think we need to suspend other activity to get the Bill Murray situation sorted out, because there are certain parameters it's solution is going to take that greatly affect the outcome. I think it's beneficial to ignore Bill Murray himself until he clarifies what he meant, and I also think it's very beneficial to move forward with other discussions as we wait. | ||
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The most alarming thing is not actually the random town-read on me, but his explanation of sylencia's alignment: Sylencia -- As far as I know he is a noob, so I'm guessing more likely town then When this read was made Sylencia had posted the following: On April 21 2013 17:11 Sylencia wrote: I would kill to be something other than a VT, but hey. On April 21 2013 18:04 Sylencia wrote: Seems like a bad idea to me. PS: Anyone who tries to analyse my first post in the future is dumb. This "read" is based on absolutely nothing, and whether or not Sylencia is a noob has almost nothing to do with his read. I don't understand this read and why on earth it's part of his "analysis". | ||
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On April 22 2013 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar what would you prefer as the "other discussions" you are referring to in your last post? if I was being vague I'll clarify "We should move forward with ANY other discussion". | ||
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On April 22 2013 08:44 getmoript wrote: The first game I played in here was with Sylencia IIRC and he/she was afk for most of it. So why does that make him most likely town? | ||
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On April 21 2013 23:59 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont see the point of giving vivax a townread and asking people to discuss because it doesnt really force scum to make a hard decision thing, its early day 1, so easy to change your mind. Its not controversial, its NOTHING. And Scum palmar tries to win. This is trying to sidetrack the thread, which is trying to win for scum. VE wanna tell me/the thread why palmar is town? I realize I never responded to this. This is a somewhat lackluster answer, but it's passable for now but just leaves Oats firmly as undecided for me. My accusation was based on the fact that he made an attempt to discredit me with no reasoning behind it. I am not entirely sure those reasons are original or were made up to respond to my questioning, but I'm going to leave the situation in the air for now. | ||
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On April 22 2013 08:50 Vivax wrote: Palmar, do you want to question geript's alignment? Do you want to question Sylencia's alignment? Cause I don't see why you are pointing this stuff out if that's not your intention. I have no information to question Sylencia's alignment I just posted the stuff about geript because I REALLY wanted to say it. That being said I don't think we should lynch him today based simply on the pseudo-confirm. | ||
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