• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:51
CET 09:51
KST 17:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool31Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea JaeDong's form before ASL BSL Season 22
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3323 users

TL Mafia LXI

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 24 2013 18:33 GMT
#37
/in
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 24 2013 20:28 GMT
#41
On March 25 2013 05:24 Blazinghand wrote:
none of that is as dumb as the presence of the snitch in quidditch

Meanwhile, multiple immortallity stones fall by the wayside.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 10 2013 12:15 GMT
#143
On March 25 2013 03:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
/in

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 19 2013 12:07 GMT
#201
/in
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 04:15 GMT
#254
BH DUCKS FORE CRIPS PASS IT ON
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 15:21 GMT
#329
@palmar's read on vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while.


I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today.

Discuss.


"Absurd" I agree with. "Strange value" however...could you expand on how his heuristic is useful at discerning OTHER people's alignment, because I don't see it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 15:43 GMT
#334
On April 22 2013 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
The idea is that anyone who posted before him is invested enough to at the very least look elsewhere - unless I'm missing something.

That's a terrible heuristic if it is that simple. Simply posting in the thread, especially in the first ~2ish hours does not a townie make.

On April 22 2013 00:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
@palmar's read on vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while.


I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today.

Discuss.


"Absurd" I agree with. "Strange value" however...could you expand on how his heuristic is useful at discerning OTHER people's alignment, because I don't see it.


I would like to know what motivates you to ask Palmar that question. Are you feeling uncomfortable with the fact that he's giving me a townread? Do you see scum motivation in doing so or do you think I'm scum?

Yes I am uncomfortable with him giving you a townread off of something I read as non-indicative. I also want to know why he suggests there is any value in the heuristic you used because it's nonsense imo.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 15:48 GMT
#338
I value being able to read things. Use the preview tabs plox.
On April 22 2013 00:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:11 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 21 2013 23:50 Palmar wrote:
On April 21 2013 23:01 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:52 Vivax wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:48 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:42 Vivax wrote:
On April 21 2013 22:38 TheRavensName wrote:
Huh... I was curious to see how big boys start playing the game... and less then a page's worth of posting totals I see an OMGuS. I feel somewhat surprised; apparently the way newbies open mafia games is the right way?

PS: Bill Murray yelling indoors is really mean.


Oooo, an omgus, interesting.
Are you okay with the way Oats is playing the game?

I'm not a 100% sure what hes doing, but if you want to call it playing then... maybe? Truth be told the fact that palmer just randomly takes offense to a baseless acucsation in a game that just started doesn't make a lot of since to me.


He's asking for a base to the accusation, precisely.
Do you have any ideas to get some discussion started? Your entrance kinda looked like you tried to downplay what's going on in the thread, which in turn makes me think you're trying to communicate reasons for not doing anything.
Do you think this description fits your play or did your posts have other purposes?


I thought it just genuinely showed disapointment. I've always had difficulty understand what to do at the start of day 1, and I see that there really is no good way to start day 1 in a purely productive way. So I suppose your right, I'm trying to downplay what happens because it doesn't seem productive, unless of course we need to know why Yamato has many weapons that arn' t guns.....

And I think its more suspicious to ask in that way rather than, just ask.... seeing as how he didn't even vote baselessly or hasn't made an ssue out of it yet. If we went after everyone who accused someone day 1 just kinda in passing, we'd never get anything resembling a case or something.


3. You seem confused as to what to do on day 1. I gave a short explanation not long ago on hapa/drh's podcast thingee. The goal of day 1 is to make people fear for their lives, which is precisely what I mean to do with Oats.



Which one?


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BztYu18cOor9cTdUMTFjdmYtVXM/edit?usp=sharing

protown cheese is protown, sharing all the protown information.

On April 10 2013 10:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 10 2013 10:28 Promethelax wrote:
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.



I'm confirmed scum :o

Kush probably town. ^
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:05 GMT
#351
On April 22 2013 00:52 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 00:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
The idea is that anyone who posted before him is invested enough to at the very least look elsewhere - unless I'm missing something.

That's a terrible heuristic if it is that simple. Simply posting in the thread, especially in the first ~2ish hours does not a townie make.

On April 22 2013 00:31 Vivax wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
@palmar's read on vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while.


I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today.

Discuss.


"Absurd" I agree with. "Strange value" however...could you expand on how his heuristic is useful at discerning OTHER people's alignment, because I don't see it.


I would like to know what motivates you to ask Palmar that question. Are you feeling uncomfortable with the fact that he's giving me a townread? Do you see scum motivation in doing so or do you think I'm scum?

Yes I am uncomfortable with him giving you a townread off of something I read as non-indicative. I also want to know why he suggests there is any value in the heuristic you used because it's nonsense imo.


What I regard as important about your question is that you seem to assume that scumPalmar would give me an easy townread, when it wouldn't serve any purpose for him, unless you know of one and want to talk about it.

Your question's whole purpose seems to be attacking Palmar's townread on me, which makes me curious. Cause town's goal is to find reasons for someone being scum, and not for heuristics to get townreads not being correct, that is mafia's goal cause it reduces the pool of people they could get lynched.

So unless you see me or Palmar as scummy for some reason you aren't citing, I see the question you're asking as something that looks like scum agenda, as you criticize someone for issuing a townread on another guy.

Then, why Palmar specifically? CC called everyone in the thread town at a certain point, and I called everyone posting before me town, yet you deem Palmar most interesting for issuing a single townread.

Palmar's explanation for why he gave you a townread doesn't make sense to me and I want to question it. No one is confirmed fuck-all until they flip, but you throw it around based on the fact that they posted in the thread before you. I'd call that as you being reckless. Not scum, not town. Palmar disagrees and has cited some kind of reasoning. I wish to hear it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:07 GMT
#353
On April 22 2013 00:58 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
THANKS FOR MAKING ME HAVE TO READ THE DAMNED OP BH THAT WAS COOL OF YOU NOT

Sup guys I'm here and I'm very town. So whazzup?


also something i noticed...
i think this is borderline cheating for talking about the PM but I also think it points heavily to town.

I don't understand what you're talking about. Assume I am 5 years old. Please explain.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:16 GMT
#356
On April 22 2013 01:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:52 Vivax wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
The idea is that anyone who posted before him is invested enough to at the very least look elsewhere - unless I'm missing something.

That's a terrible heuristic if it is that simple. Simply posting in the thread, especially in the first ~2ish hours does not a townie make.

On April 22 2013 00:31 Vivax wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
@palmar's read on vivax:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while.


I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today.

Discuss.


"Absurd" I agree with. "Strange value" however...could you expand on how his heuristic is useful at discerning OTHER people's alignment, because I don't see it.


I would like to know what motivates you to ask Palmar that question. Are you feeling uncomfortable with the fact that he's giving me a townread? Do you see scum motivation in doing so or do you think I'm scum?

Yes I am uncomfortable with him giving you a townread off of something I read as non-indicative. I also want to know why he suggests there is any value in the heuristic you used because it's nonsense imo.


What I regard as important about your question is that you seem to assume that scumPalmar would give me an easy townread, when it wouldn't serve any purpose for him, unless you know of one and want to talk about it.

Your question's whole purpose seems to be attacking Palmar's townread on me, which makes me curious. Cause town's goal is to find reasons for someone being scum, and not for heuristics to get townreads not being correct, that is mafia's goal cause it reduces the pool of people they could get lynched.

So unless you see me or Palmar as scummy for some reason you aren't citing, I see the question you're asking as something that looks like scum agenda, as you criticize someone for issuing a townread on another guy.

Then, why Palmar specifically? CC called everyone in the thread town at a certain point, and I called everyone posting before me town, yet you deem Palmar most interesting for issuing a single townread.

Palmar's explanation for why he gave you a townread doesn't make sense to me and I want to question it. No one is confirmed fuck-all until they flip, but you throw it around based on the fact that they posted in the thread before you. I'd call that as you being reckless. Not scum, not town. Palmar disagrees and has cited some kind of reasoning. I wish to hear it.


I'll interject here, to try and be all protown and useful.

Is recklessness not a town trait? Personally I know, as scum, I'm pretty careful about what I post in the way of reads. Especially sweeping generalizations like that. It's a towntell because Vivax isn't caring what people think about him, and he the post itself clearly was not premeditated as to seem like he were doing something. I think Palmar went over-the-top with the ultra super mega awesome townread, but hey you've got to generate discussion somewhere. I believe it's a townie thing to do as opposed to a scum thing.

I don't see it as particularly telling of either alignment as it was Vivax's first post. I read it and just kind of shook my head. I can follow not wanting to lynch him based on being reckless, though not with the certainty that Palmar has suggested. I'm specifically interested in the bolded.
On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while.


I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today.

Discuss.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:17 GMT
#359
On April 22 2013 01:17 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:58 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 21 2013 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
THANKS FOR MAKING ME HAVE TO READ THE DAMNED OP BH THAT WAS COOL OF YOU NOT

Sup guys I'm here and I'm very town. So whazzup?


also something i noticed...
i think this is borderline cheating for talking about the PM but I also think it points heavily to town.

I don't understand what you're talking about. Assume I am 5 years old. Please explain.

do you know what VE is talking about?

I do not. If I did, I would probably understand what you're going on about.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:21 GMT
#362
On April 22 2013 01:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:17 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
On April 22 2013 00:58 kushm4sta wrote:
On April 21 2013 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
THANKS FOR MAKING ME HAVE TO READ THE DAMNED OP BH THAT WAS COOL OF YOU NOT

Sup guys I'm here and I'm very town. So whazzup?


also something i noticed...
i think this is borderline cheating for talking about the PM but I also think it points heavily to town.

I don't understand what you're talking about. Assume I am 5 years old. Please explain.

do you know what VE is talking about?

I do not. If I did, I would probably understand what you're going on about.


All role PMs were just the name. I.E. Brave Wizard. None of us know wtf that is unless we read the OP. And such is what VE was talking about -- when he got his PM, he was like FUCK, gotta read dat OP so I know what I am.

okay. that is true of every single player in the game. Why does this imply VE is town? (Kush?)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:26 GMT
#369
On April 22 2013 01:25 kushm4sta wrote:
@hopeless did you have to check the OP?
if you did, then why didn't you understand what VE said?

[sarcasm]No, I don't read role pm's[/sarcasm]
I didn't understand how that makes him town.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:32 GMT
#376
On April 22 2013 01:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
-snip-
Not sure if retarded..... or kush....

Same thing really. This was bound to happen, but kush gets a townread from me for it.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:33 GMT
#379
On April 22 2013 01:32 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
How about we stop trying to use the role PM to discern alignments KTHX

I already did though!
VE town
CC town
Hopeless scum

2/3, not bad. owaitshit
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 16:50 GMT
#394
On April 22 2013 01:48 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On April 22 2013 01:23 kushm4sta wrote:
WE knew that's what VE meant because we are town. Scum prob didn't know what he meant. Now you just explained it to them.


Why wouldn't scum know what he meant? They had to do the exact same thing, the only difference is they had a QT in their PM. They still have to look up if they are framer,rber,godfather or whatever. Literally every person has to reference the op for their role, regardless of alignment.

How would you even know this? Are you scum? Did you receive a QT in your PM? Did you receive the QT in the same pm or a different pm? You are treading on highly suspicious ground for me because as a hydra I received my hydra QT in the same PM. You aren't a hydra clearly. How would you know that?


On March 22 2013 20:48 Blazinghand wrote:
Sample PMs:

Auror
Brave Wizard
Harry Potter
Rita Skeeter
Voldemort, your QT: _____
Lucius Malfoy, your QT: _____


How the fuck is this so difficult to understand?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 17:00 GMT
#401
On April 22 2013 01:57 Palmar wrote:
Geript rerrible or scum?

Terrible.

Can you explain the strange value in Vivax's heuristic? I can follow how you discerned Vivax's alignment from his post, but not how you might figure out others based on it/the heuristic he used.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 21:01 GMT
#471
theres scarcely the need for a separate qt when you're scum. its not 100% but I actually agree with kush for a change.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 21 2013 21:06 GMT
#474
Palmar, are you ever going to elaborate on the bolded?
On April 21 2013 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 18:28 Vivax wrote:
Well I don't care that you say no, I'll treat everyone who posted before me as confirmed town for a while.


I think the absurdity and yet strange value of this heuristic makes Vivax very likely to be town. To the point that almost nothing would make me want to lynch him today.

Discuss.

1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech122
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10360
Hm[arnc] 1975
BeSt 593
Larva 444
Jaedong 154
actioN 143
Leta 80
Soma 67
Nal_rA 64
sSak 42
[ Show more ]
NotJumperer 34
ToSsGirL 23
zelot 15
Bale 15
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
XaKoH 737
NeuroSwarm158
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1330
Super Smash Bros
Westballz30
Other Games
Sick202
ViBE132
Livibee81
Mew2King37
Fuzer 0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick687
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream153
Other Games
BasetradeTV40
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH230
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling140
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
1h 9m
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
11h 9m
Replay Cast
15h 9m
Replay Cast
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d 1h
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
1d 3h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Zoun
WardiTV Team League
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jeongseon Sooper Cup
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.