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Hi peoples! So are we planning to plan, or are we planning for not planning? What's the plan, Stan? On April 04 2013 11:44 Keirathi wrote: /ignore gonzaw  Anyways, herro friends. Hello lover. | ||
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Nap time. See you after! Oh shit, caller game?! ##remove kebab | ||
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First impressions: I saw that Oats is/was under some suspicion (just going from memory, don't recall if it was talked out or not) but Oats is Oats; he's a bit all over the place but I don't see the same intent to shut things down that someone mentioned earlier. He was just as loud and all-over in RED. Null still. RO seems to want to be more helpful than I remember him being as scum in LX, not feeling what you guys that are suspicious of him are feeling there, either. Got my eye on Rayn at the moment. His style was spammy but usually constructive (at least in telling us what he was thinking) and I've got none of that after the first couple pages of his filter. Ten one-liners in a row or something, doesn't match up to his standard attacking pattern from RED. The attacks there were thought-out, here they mostly look like casual accusations perhaps fishing for reactions? The only points he has going for him is that he's absolutely confused about what is going on regarding the draft process: On April 05 2013 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Should we have our roles by now? Rayn, if you are serious about RO being scum then lay if out for me in one clean concise post, and if you are not, who are you most suspicious of right now? Or are you just drunk again? Other stuff: Most of the chat was about planning how to set up the top spots to get roles protected, is that still a thing? I'm spot 2 somehow, and I was thinking about taking America because America, fuck yeah! Is that going to make me a Pariah or something? Girls just wanna have fun, you know? I'll use it as a second lynch like was suggested yesterday or I can just sit on it if you guys are paranoid about it. Going back for that re-read and making some coffee. See you in a bit when I'm finished with that. PS: Seriously guys, the spam, cut it out, I decided to avoid large games because of the sheer volume of posts so please be less liberal with one-liners, thank you! | ||
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The Oats vs Rayn dichotomy is only reinforcing my read on Rayn right now (clearly it's in retrospect), though there is something to be said for how infuriating talking with Oats can be... that could explain all those one-liners I suppose. On April 05 2013 04:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: 3 scum reads: Caller, RO, Oats. On April 05 2013 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: These are the guys who are saying "i don't want to take a stance, i just.... I SET MY NUMBERS ALALALALALALALA.. I WON'T LISTEN TO SHIT, AND I HAVE NOT HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE BECAUSE OF ALALALALALALALALLA! kill those guys. That's the extent of the reason that these people are scum to Rayn, because they won't play nice? People who play paranoid are less likely to cooperate for fear of being manipulated. People who want to pick a role that is fun are less likely to cooperate as well. I just don't see how this is a definite case of those players being scum. Caller spent half the time trolling until he mentioned killing VE. Oats is Oats, Rayn has already had the Oats experience when we were in RED together. There's just no way they are all scum together and going against the grain and Rayn's declaration that Caller, Oats, RO and MZ are scum together is a complete crock. | ||
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On April 05 2013 14:53 Oatsmaster wrote: OO fuck that I was totally right and rayn was totally WRONG. You have ideas on who to pick based on our discussion earlier right? Yeah I see you guy want some roles protected so I will take that into consideration. Thief, janitor, PoD, there were one or two more high priority roles to hold for town as well that I can't recall off the top of my head. | ||
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I have two games played together with Vivax (LX and Fruity) and I was interested in getting a preliminary read on him based on what we've seen so far. I did a (pretty weak) meta case on him in LX and I have a not-entirely-unfamiliar handle on his play, but I wanted to see if my read agreed with yours. Surprisingly he's been talking a lot of sense, but he's got Rayn as his #1 town read according to his filter: On April 05 2013 03:19 Vivax wrote: Supporting gonzaw and rayn for high picks so far. Objections? I suggest everyone makes a list of his top 5 townreads to send in highest numbers, and we find the ones most agree on. If there's someone mostly suggesting scum in his list, we will find out later. That's why scum will try to stop this plan. 1. Rayn 2. Gonzaw 3. Vivax (duh) 4.-5. : To find out. It seems the reason for this was because Rayn's opinion was that there was a low likelihood of there being scum in the most active/outspoken of townies for D1. This doesn't seem to jive with the concept that people are being active/outspoken about disagreeing that we should have had a plan to begin with. Each time I read the next quote I get more and more confused about what Vivax is actually saying here, to be honest. It seems as though Vivax is reading Rayn as town because Rayn is active/engaged, but Rayn is conversely suspicious of people who are active and engaged. Is this some kind of process of elimination or how did Vivax form his read? I'm not seeing it... On April 05 2013 02:50 Vivax wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: It doesn't matter if they proposed good or bad ideas. Mafia is probably not going to push any ideas at all (because they all have a backdoor - because there are so many roles). Everyone pushing ideas regardless if they are good/bad are probably town at this point, especially the guys who are pushing ultimately bad ideas. :D I would probably support you as candidate cause I don't think that there can be mostly mafia among the most active and engaged candidates you proposed, so that makes you look quite townie. ##Pick #1: Rayn I guess I should extend this question to Vivax as well, then. Vivax, does your town read on Rayn waver at all based on what I've demonstrated before (that Rayn's scum reads are all people pushing against the current/trending of town's intentions during pre-picks). Moc, Yam, do you think Vivax' town read of Rayn is unfounded? Maybe you can explain it better than I understand it since I could be misinterpreting it. | ||
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On April 05 2013 15:26 Keirathi wrote: Maybe an addendum: If you launch one, and you hit town, then you get lynched no questions asked. Arguably, nuking at all should get the person lynched I guess. Scum with the role could nuke scum for the town cred (really stupid and wifom but it's in the realm of possibility) and to bypass all of that, we could just agree to policy lynch America when they are outed in the thread to be 100% sure. | ||
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On April 05 2013 15:34 Keirathi wrote: If someone is scum and starts nuking his buddies, then I'm fine with letting him live TBH. Think about it like this: If that person is trying to emulate town, then what is the normal mafia reaction? To NK said person. If they are still alive 2/3/whatever days later, then we can talk about it again. I think its dumb to say "We're going to policy lynch anyone who uses a nuke, even if they hit scum" because then if a townie  OES* pick America, and they O* hit scum, then scum don't have to use a kill to get rid of him because they know town is going to do it for them.SHHH MAKE THEM FEAR THE RETRIBUTION, KEI! | ||
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Where'd this come from? I don't see why you think Keirathi is scum anywhere in your filter, this is the first mention with Ctrl+F through your filter, please tell me what I'm not seeing that makes Keirathi scum. Your scum reads are basically on the people who are ignoring you, so I want to get some clarity about at least Keirathi and Yamato if it's not too much trouble. Thanks. | ||
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On April 06 2013 03:52 Caller wrote: although now that i think about it he was the one that attacked my initial accusation on keirathi, didn't he? Could be some mutual chainsaw defense sorta thing going on here ~ I wouldn't call it attacking, more like I wanted to know exactly what was up because I do not feel that Keirathi is scum based on what I've seen for far. Keirathi being friendly and helpful improved my town play in RED (granted, that all happened AFTER his confirmed town mason claim) but I just don't agree with you on helpfulness being a scum tell, at least from Keirathi. BTW, [3][16] since you asked so kindly. | ||
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On April 06 2013 09:59 Restraining Order wrote: In fact, I'm just going to quote myself on this matter. Wouldn't be a problem if you'd actually think I'm mafia  I'll indulge your soft town claim for a moment and simply ask you why your list contains 9 people. If you can justify all 9 in some way at least we'll know whether or not you're talking the breeze with these myriad suspicions. | ||
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On April 06 2013 10:06 Restraining Order wrote: No, it's 9. I have no idea where VE got the Caller thing from, and it's sad you just take his word. If I've misread it please tell me how. It won't be the first time. I spent like 24 hours in Fruity misreading every little thing so just straighten me out instead of spitting in my face, thx. | ||
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On April 06 2013 10:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Actually I misread the quote-pyramid. He was saying he wanted to lynch Kier when I thought he was replying to Caller. My mistake. .... | ||
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On April 06 2013 11:37 Bill Murray wrote: youre rightabout that RIGHT ABOUT WHAT PLEASE TYPE MORE JESUS FUCK | ||
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On April 06 2013 12:13 Bill Murray wrote: well i guess he doesnt play like me anymore You say that like it's a bad thing. | ||
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